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    A few days ago Vanity Fair, the same outlet that once attempted to block the exposé of monster pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, published an article by Venessa Grigoriadis that provides some details of Epstein’s friend and alleged ‘co-conspirator’ Ghislaine Maxwell. Multiple victims claim that Maxwell often brought girls to Epstein and that she was an active...
  • @Jon Baptist
    Chuck, fully agree. Wall....eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee cannot be that obtuse. He is here for one sole purpose and that is "Guilt by Association."

    Oh yeah.
    That must be why you cannot refute any of my positions.

    Of course you fail to say why my pointing out the truth about Communist True Believers like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib is “Guilt by Association” … while you obviously have no clue as to what that term even means.

    Cheers.

  • @ChuckOrloski
    To pontifically insult Gilad Atzmon's educational observation, "In America in 2019 just about every politician at any level except probably Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib has been reduced into a Zionist puppet,” Wally (er, the lesser brother of Beaver Cleaver"😏) "REDUCED" himself & meekly opined:
    "Both Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib have kissed the rings of the purveyors of the false & impossible “holocaust” narrative"

    So why am I hear & paying attention to Wally? 🤔 During debate, H. Ross Perot's VP choice, Admiral Stockdale looked into the television audience zeitgeist, and began to introduce himself to Amerika by asking, "Why am I here?" (Zigh) Am presently in the Admiral's debate-seat & contesting Hollow Wally. Haha.😟

    At any rate, the extent to which all Amerikan Shabbos goy Congressman cater to Israeli requirements is relative.

    No doubt, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib are on the lesser end of those who ritualistically "kiss the ring" of the "purveyors of the false & impossible 'holocaust' narrative."

    It saddens me how the unwise Wally has, on several occasions here at U.R.-comments, issued unobjective lists of "The Chosen" PreZident Trump's "many sccomplishments." As "reality check," 🙂& linked below, is Trump's flagrant ass-licking speech at Yad Vashem, where the self-proclaimed "Chosen One" endearingly quoted words of the Supreme idolized fraud, Elie Wiesel.

    https://youtu.be/9oLN4dEDvPc

    Selah, "everything is relative;" for example, London is geographically closer to Tel Aviv than is D.C. , but ideologically, both capitals are, selah, One with The Jews,

    – Put down the bottle, comrade. Neutered, lying Communists such as yourself are yesterday’s news.
    – Your irrational belief in True Believers Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib is the stuff of fakers.
    – Your worship, ring kissing, of the less than thorough Gilad Atzmon is a reflection of your own lack of a cogent argument and perhaps an insecure youth.
    – Your need to resort to juvenile strawman arguments gives your game away. But then that’s what Marxists do, have always done.
    – I have continuously stated that Trump is flawed, yet I have also pointed out his accomplishments, and that I feel there are no alternatives to him at this time.
    – You, on the other hand, have failed to specify anyone who is in the 2020 hunt that is better than Trump.
    – You have failed utterly to name a candidate who does not kiss Yad Vashem ass, nor has your idol, Gilad Atzmon.

    Let’s put it this way than, I own you, as do the facts.
    Trump’s accomplishments:
    http://www.unz.com/?s=accomplishments&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally

    • Troll: ChuckOrloski
  • One of the delights of revisiting old movies after many years is finding out that you completely misread or misremembered certain scenes. Early on in the first part of Leni Riefenstahl’s Olympia, we have the entry parades of the national teams. When the French team come by, they drag their flag in the dust –...
  • @M Krauthammar
    Justice would have been done if this woman (Leni Rienfensthal) was forcibly married to a black guy and made to bear his babies in Africa.
    Many daughters of Nazi leaders were later found to be married with Black guys.
    Amon Goeth met the poetic justice.
    Anyway, Germany and whole of Europe will be a land of Mixed people in a few years.
    Refugee crisis means more interracial relationships.
    Even rejected asylum seekers are here to stay.
    White women want them here.
    Bye bye , White people. You won't be missed.

    said:
    “Justice would have been done if this woman (Leni Rienfensthal) was forcibly married to a black guy and made to bear his babies in Africa.”
    – But she didn’t.
    “Many daughters of Nazi leaders were later found to be married with Black guys”.
    – No they weren’t. You can only wish.
    “Amon Goeth met the poetic justice.”
    – The lies about him shot down here:
    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=amon+goeth
    “Anyway, Germany and whole of Europe will be a land of Mixed people in a few years.”
    – Then who will support “that shitty little country” of Israel? Muslims? LOL
    “Refugee crisis means more interracial relationships.”
    – No it doesn’t, you can only wish.
    “Even rejected asylum seekers are here to stay.”
    – No they are not. Pay attention. You can only wish.
    “White women want them here.”
    – No they don’t. Most white women voted for Trump.
    “Bye bye , White people. You won’t be missed.”
    – Then who will pay the bills or everyone else?

  • Justice would have been done if this woman (Leni Rienfensthal) was forcibly married to a black guy and made to bear his babies in Africa.
    Many daughters of Nazi leaders were later found to be married with Black guys.
    Amon Goeth met the poetic justice.
    Anyway, Germany and whole of Europe will be a land of Mixed people in a few years.
    Refugee crisis means more interracial relationships.
    Even rejected asylum seekers are here to stay.
    White women want them here.
    Bye bye , White people. You won’t be missed.

    • LOL: Wally
    • Troll: Gunga Din
    • Replies: @Franklin Ryckaert
    "...Bye bye, White people. You won't be missed..."

    Charles Murray, Human Accomplishment :

    https://youtu.be/HnkCes0yDw4?t=278

    Without White people 97% of human civilization would not exist.
    You jealous bro ?
    , @Realist
    You are the epitome of a Jack off Jew...a true onanist.
    , @Anonymous
    M Krauthammar >"Bye bye , White people. You won’t be missed."

    Nor will ye, Jewenate Chosenite!.

    Whites were minorities on plantations. They still ran 'em. So get used to innate white superiority. And Yid shartstorming (while playing victim) face illegal beaners turn the USA Pacostan, filled with losers from MEH-HEE-COE.

    Whites will continue to run the world...until Wakandan-Aztecs turn the USA into Mexicamerico Shtlhoelestqn,

    There are no Jew populations that garbage-compactors can't sort out. When payback times per Palestine, America won't care any more about Jews than they did shafted Palestinians.

    Being Jewish was central to many decisions.I suspect will hold true for a few more decades.
    , @Wally
    said:
    "Justice would have been done if this woman (Leni Rienfensthal) was forcibly married to a black guy and made to bear his babies in Africa."
    - But she didn't.
    "Many daughters of Nazi leaders were later found to be married with Black guys".
    - No they weren't. You can only wish.
    "Amon Goeth met the poetic justice."
    - The lies about him shot down here:
    https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=amon+goeth
    "Anyway, Germany and whole of Europe will be a land of Mixed people in a few years."
    - Then who will support "that shitty little country" of Israel? Muslims? LOL
    "Refugee crisis means more interracial relationships."
    - No it doesn't, you can only wish.
    "Even rejected asylum seekers are here to stay."
    - No they are not. Pay attention. You can only wish.
    "White women want them here."
    - No they don't. Most white women voted for Trump.
    "Bye bye , White people. You won’t be missed."
    - Then who will pay the bills or everyone else?
  • @Hans Vogel
    Ah Goebbels, the rascal. There were also rumors that he himself was of Jewish descent. Overdramatizing the demand to have poor Leni evicted from a social event would then seem to be circumstantial evidence for the veracity of those rumors.

    Quite apart from the mass murder of Jews by the nazis, the relationship between tem is definitely a complex one, what with the Haavara agreement and the more than 100,000 Jewish soldiers in the nazi armed forces. And the "honorary aryans" such as Luftwaffe General Erhard Milch.

    If Goebbels would not have wanted to share an event with Leni just because of her Jewish descent, I wonder why he would have allowed almost 300 Jewish artists, performers and movie industry people to go on working by handing them special status and permits?

    History is always such fun!

    – There was no “mass murder of Jews by the nazis”, and there is no proof there was.

    – Erhard Milch was not Jewish.
    His “aryan” mother married a Jew after her son, whose father was not a Jew, was born.

    -There were thousands of Jews who openly lived in Berlin throughout WWII.

    Jews were given a choice to stay behind at “death camp Auschwitz” or leave with the ‘evil’ SS, most chose to leave with the SS.

    “Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

  • A few days ago Vanity Fair, the same outlet that once attempted to block the exposé of monster pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, published an article by Venessa Grigoriadis that provides some details of Epstein’s friend and alleged ‘co-conspirator’ Ghislaine Maxwell. Multiple victims claim that Maxwell often brought girls to Epstein and that she was an active...
  • ” In America in 2019 just about every politician at any level except probably Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib has been reduced into a Zionist puppet.”

    Wrong, absolutely.

    Both Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib have kissed the rings of the purveyors of the false & impossible “holocaust” narrative.

    They are quite “reduced” until they truly wise up.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    To pontifically insult Gilad Atzmon's educational observation, "In America in 2019 just about every politician at any level except probably Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib has been reduced into a Zionist puppet,” Wally (er, the lesser brother of Beaver Cleaver"😏) "REDUCED" himself & meekly opined:
    "Both Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib have kissed the rings of the purveyors of the false & impossible “holocaust” narrative"

    So why am I hear & paying attention to Wally? 🤔 During debate, H. Ross Perot's VP choice, Admiral Stockdale looked into the television audience zeitgeist, and began to introduce himself to Amerika by asking, "Why am I here?" (Zigh) Am presently in the Admiral's debate-seat & contesting Hollow Wally. Haha.😟

    At any rate, the extent to which all Amerikan Shabbos goy Congressman cater to Israeli requirements is relative.

    No doubt, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talib are on the lesser end of those who ritualistically "kiss the ring" of the "purveyors of the false & impossible 'holocaust' narrative."

    It saddens me how the unwise Wally has, on several occasions here at U.R.-comments, issued unobjective lists of "The Chosen" PreZident Trump's "many sccomplishments." As "reality check," 🙂& linked below, is Trump's flagrant ass-licking speech at Yad Vashem, where the self-proclaimed "Chosen One" endearingly quoted words of the Supreme idolized fraud, Elie Wiesel.

    https://youtu.be/9oLN4dEDvPc

    Selah, "everything is relative;" for example, London is geographically closer to Tel Aviv than is D.C. , but ideologically, both capitals are, selah, One with The Jews,
  • One of the delights of revisiting old movies after many years is finding out that you completely misread or misremembered certain scenes. Early on in the first part of Leni Riefenstahl’s Olympia, we have the entry parades of the national teams. When the French team come by, they drag their flag in the dust –...
  • @Colin Wright
    Leni Riefenstahl is definitely one of my favorite people.

    FYI, some excellent, recommended information about Riefenstahl here: https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=leni+riefenstahl
    ex.:
    In Brief. By Töben, F., Rudolf, G. , published 2003-10-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl died at age 101. Much loved for her pioneering film work, Riefenstahl was also hated by those who pressed her to apologize for having been associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nationa…

    Jesse Owens: Myth and Reality, News and Comment: By Weber, M. , published 1984-04-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl’s film masterwork also devotes great attention to many other non-Whites, including outstanding Japanese athletes. The same holds true in the deluxe, semi-official German picture book …

    The Fuehrer Headquarters 1939-1945 / The Great Age of German Films 1933-1945, Book Reviews, By Stimely, K. , published 1984-04-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl and a couple others may have done some great work, but the greatness was of a peculiar “demonic” nature. All-in-all, film production in the Third Reich not only contributed little or …

    ‘Real History’ in Cincinnati, By O’Keefe, T. , published 2001-12-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl, whose 99th birthday was on August 22. Provan-Renk Debate Two independent researchers, Charles Provan of Pennsylvania and Brian Renk of British Columbia, squared off on Sunday for a …

    Revisionism in Russia, By Strauss, W. , published 2003-11-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl’s soundtrack “Triumph des Willens” (1934) along with the Olympic epos “Fest der Völker” and “Fest der Schönheit” (1936). The Russian public spent minute-long standing ovations. The Ri…

    The Legacy of Rudolf Hess, By Weber, M. , published 1993-01-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl film of the 1934 Congress, “Triumph of the Will.” Known as the “conscience of the party,” he often used what power and influence he had to intervene on behalf of victims of persecutio…

    Life Under Fire, The Wages of Apostasy, By Irving, D. , published 1993-01-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl. I hope the above material suffices for what you have in mind. That’s the way to deal with journalists! I have developed my own techniques in dealing with them. ‘Historically Inaccu…

    Introduction to Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich, By Irving, D. , published 1995-01-01

    …Leni Riefenstahl – who privately showed me her productions of the era – and filmstar Lida Baarova (now Lida Lundwall). I am grateful to Thomas Harlan for talking to me about his mother the late filmst…

    Film as witness: screening ‘Nazi Concentration Camps’ before the Nuremberg Tribunal, By Douglas, L. , published 1995-01-11

    …Leni Riefenstahl’s Triumph of the Will, see 3 IMT, supra note 2, at 400-02; Taylor, supra note 10, at 200), as well as films documenting atrocities in the east, see 7 IMT, supra note 2, at 601, and a …

  • Leni Riefenstahl is definitely one of my favorite people.

    • Agree: Wally
    • Replies: @Wally
    FYI, some excellent, recommended information about Riefenstahl here: https://codoh.com/search/?sorting=relevance&q=leni+riefenstahl
    ex.:
    - In Brief. By Töben, F., Rudolf, G. , published 2003-10-01

    ...Leni Riefenstahl died at age 101. Much loved for her pioneering film work, Riefenstahl was also hated by those who pressed her to apologize for having been associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nationa...
     
    Jesse Owens: Myth and Reality, News and Comment: By Weber, M. , published 1984-04-01

    ...Leni Riefenstahl's film masterwork also devotes great attention to many other non-Whites, including outstanding Japanese athletes. The same holds true in the deluxe, semi-official German picture book ...
     
    The Fuehrer Headquarters 1939-1945 / The Great Age of German Films 1933-1945, Book Reviews, By Stimely, K. , published 1984-04-01

    ...Leni Riefenstahl and a couple others may have done some great work, but the greatness was of a peculiar "demonic" nature. All-in-all, film production in the Third Reich not only contributed little or ...
     
    ‘Real History’ in Cincinnati, By O'Keefe, T. , published 2001-12-01

    ...Leni Riefenstahl, whose 99th birthday was on August 22. Provan-Renk Debate Two independent researchers, Charles Provan of Pennsylvania and Brian Renk of British Columbia, squared off on Sunday for a ...
     
    Revisionism in Russia, By Strauss, W. , published 2003-11-01

    ...Leni Riefenstahl’s soundtrack "Triumph des Willens" (1934) along with the Olympic epos "Fest der Völker" and "Fest der Schönheit" (1936). The Russian public spent minute-long standing ovations. The Ri...
     
    The Legacy of Rudolf Hess, By Weber, M. , published 1993-01-01


    ...Leni Riefenstahl film of the 1934 Congress, "Triumph of the Will." Known as the "conscience of the party," he often used what power and influence he had to intervene on behalf of victims of persecutio...
     
    Life Under Fire, The Wages of Apostasy, By Irving, D. , published 1993-01-01

    ...Leni Riefenstahl. I hope the above material suffices for what you have in mind. That's the way to deal with journalists! I have developed my own techniques in dealing with them. 'Historically Inaccu...
     
    Introduction to Goebbels: Mastermind of the Third Reich, By Irving, D. , published 1995-01-01

    ...Leni Riefenstahl – who privately showed me her productions of the era – and filmstar Lida Baarova (now Lida Lundwall). I am grateful to Thomas Harlan for talking to me about his mother the late filmst...

     
    Film as witness: screening 'Nazi Concentration Camps' before the Nuremberg Tribunal, By Douglas, L. , published 1995-01-11

    ...Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will, see 3 IMT, supra note 2, at 400-02; Taylor, supra note 10, at 200), as well as films documenting atrocities in the east, see 7 IMT, supra note 2, at 601, and a ...
     
  • – The fake scandal of ‘Leni Riefenstahl & the Nazis’ is simply irrational and easily demonstrated as such.

    – It’s a known fact that ‘the Nazis’ did not kill the fabled ‘6,000,000 Jews and 5,000,00o others’, and there were no ‘Nazi gas chambers’. Regardless of how much it’s repeated by Zionist shysters, the Germans could not perform magic, aka: the scientifically impossible.

    – What we are dealing with here is the classic question:
    ‘How many angels can dance on the head of a pin’?.
    answer:
    There are no angels.

    As for the 1936 Olympics:
    – 1st: Germany was the overwhelming medals winner.
    – 2nd: Jesse Owens, black US Olympic athlete, debunked the lies that Hitler snubbed him because of his race.

    – Jesse Owens, after winning his events, said:

    “When I passed the Chancellor he arose, waved his hand at me, and I waved back at him. I think the writers showed bad taste in criticizing the man of the hour in Germany.”

    and:

    “Hitler didn’t snub me, it was FDR who snubbed me. The president didn’t even send me a telegram.”

    – Hitler and other heads of state were forbidden by Olympic officials from visiting any athletes after their events.
    – Hence the propaganda that said / says Hitler deliberately avoided Owens is just that, another Zionist lie.
    – Jesse Owens was never invited to the White House nor bestowed any honors by Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) or Harry S. Truman during their terms.
    more:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11344
    and:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11345

    • Agree: Carolyn Yeager
    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    Supposedly, Owens actually met Hitler, at Hitler's request, and shook his hand. The story goes that Owens carried a picture of that event in his wallet for the rest of his life.

    As for the FDR/Truman "snubs". In that more serious era, few, if any, Olympic athletes were invited to the White House.

    Owens complained, in addition, that he couldn't find a good job after the Olympics. Of course, back then the endorsement laws to remain an amateur were much stricter, and Olympic athletes had limited opportunities to cash in on their sport. As for regular jobs-it was the freaking Depression.

    What did his job interviews look like:

    "Tell us about your, skills and experience, young man-what can you do for our company"?

    "I'ze kin run az fast az a muddafukka, suh"

    "So can Man O' War, son......NEXT!!!"
  • If the neoliberal ruling classes expect to keep the American masses worked up into a white-eyed hysteria over “fascism” until November 2020, they’re going to need to get some better Nazis. The current Nazis are just not going to cut it. They are neither scary nor Nazi enough. OK, the militia ones look kind of...
  • @redmudhooch
    https://youtu.be/qmYSNDr84M4

    https://youtu.be/HMOdDQQVZ6U

    LOL. You canot be serious.

    [MORE]

    – There is no proof for the “holocaust” narrative mentioned in the laughable video. There necessarily cannot be since the ridiculous claims are scientifically impossible.

    – More on the fake “6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers” here:

    Ron Unz goes full on Revisionist, says: “Does anybody seriously believe something so totally ridiculous?”: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11985
    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/
    “The Holocaust” Is a Myth That Conceals Our Shame: http://www.unz.com/kbarrett/the-holocaust-is-a-myth-that-conceals-our-shame/
    Teaching Holocaust, Don’t know much about history, by Philip Giraldi: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/
    Babi Yar: The [alleged] Einsatzgruppen ‘Killings’: http://www.unz.com/article/babi-yar/

    – See the “holocaust” scam debunked here: http://codoh.com
    – No name calling, level playing field debate here: http://forum.codoh.com

  • Of all the fallacies that one confronts when engaging with the theme of relations between Jews and Europeans, one of the most easily disproven is the idea that antagonism towards Jews is constantly changing. In the ‘mainstream’ reading of the history of European-Jewish interactions, the friction that exists between Jews and other elements of the...
  • @anonymous lazer
    In 1944 Americans were asked what was the Biggest threat to america. About 75 percent of them said the Jews.

    Source please.

    • Replies: @Theodore
    Perhaps it is this:

    And American citizens, asked to name the greatest threat to the United States in a series of polls taken by the Opinion Research Corporation between 1939 and 1946, consistently chose “the Jews” over the Japanese or the Germans, with fear peaking in June of 1944, just as the Jewish population of Europe was close to fully exterminated.
     
    Source cited here:
    Were Americans more anti-Semitic than anti-German during WWII?
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=12464
  • @Priss Factor
    Jews favored Anglo-ness over German-ness because the weaker & more generic personality of the Anglos were easier to push around for the powerful-personalitied Jews. Anglos were more about manners whereas Germans were more about manhood. Anglos thought and behaved with their heads whereas Germans used their entire bodies. Anglos were verbal, Germans were musical. Jews preferred Anglo culture not because they aspired to be like Anglos but because it was relatively easier to penetrate, conquer, and control. Head and shoulders were easier to topple than blood and soil.

    And yet, the Jewish personality is closer to the Germanic, and the most influential Jews were of Germanic influence: Kafka, Freud, Marx, Frankfurt School, etc. Jews have strong personalities and feel more at home with the Gestaltism of Germanic thought. Also, like the Germans, Jews have a deeper sense of roots than the Anglos who are a Germanic people whose culture has largely been replaced by Romance terminology and attitudes.

    You have identified major factors as to why the fake “holocaust” narrative was contrived.
    ex.:
    Communist Jew, Bruno Baum, himself a member of the illegal ‘partisans / terrorists’, boasted after the war:

    “The entire propaganda which started abroad, was made by us with the help of our Polish mates.”
    – Bruno Baum, »Wir funken aus der Hölle« in Deutsche Volkszeitung – Zentralorgan der KPD, Berlin 31.7.1945.; cf. B. Baum

  • @Anon

    As Orwell in his Novel, 1984, explained, oppressors use/misuse Language to misdirect/brainwash people, to rob them of any cognitive ability to understand their oppression.
     
    Orwell was a philo-Semite. From his AntiSemitism In Britian:

    There was also literary Jew-baiting, which in the hands of Belloc, Chesterton and their followers reached an almost continental level of scurrility. Non-Catholic writers were sometimes guilty of the same thing in a milder form. There has been a perceptible antisemitic strain in English literature from Chaucer onwards, and without even getting up from this table to consult a book I can think of passages which if written now would be stigmatised as antisemitism, in the works of Shakespeare, Smollett, Thackeray, Bernard Shaw, H. G. Wells, T. S. Eliot, Aldous Huxley and various others. Offhand, the only English writers I can think of who, before the days of Hitler, made a definite effort to stick up for Jews are Dickens and Charles Reade. And however little the average intellectual may have agreed with the opinions of Belloc and Chesterton, he did not acutely disapprove of them. Chesterton's endless tirades against Jews, which he thrust into stories and essays upon the flimsiest pretexts, never got him into trouble--indeed Chesterton was one of the most generally respected figures in English literary life. Anyone who wrote in that strain now would bring down a storm of abuse upon himself, or more probably would find it impossible to get his writings published.

    ...It so happens that for some decades past Britain has had no nationalist intelligentsia worth bothering about. But British
    nationalism, i.e. nationalism of an intellectual kind, may revive, and probably will revive if Britain comes out of the present war greatly weakened. The young intellectuals of 1950 may be as naively patriotic as those of 1914. In that case the kind of antisemitism which flourished among the anti-Dreyfusards in France, and which Chesterton and Belloc tried to import into this country, might get a foothold.

     

    Really?
    Yet Orwell rejected the absurd & impossible ‘Nazi gas chambers’.

    from Zionist dominated Wikipedia:

    Orwell Doubted the Gas Chambers

    Orwell was an antisemite who even doubted the holocaust gas chambers. At the conclusion of the war in Europe, Orwell expressed doubt about the Allied account of events and posed the following question in his book Notes on Nationalism, “If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear… Is it true about the gas ovens in Poland?”.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AGeorge_Orwell/Archive_1#Orwell_Doubted_the_Gas_Chambers

    discussion on Orwell:
    Orwell’s 1984 and modern censorship
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12678

  • @Durruti
    Desert Fox

    American people we were doomed and now we have a zionist POTUS who thinks he is Israels god!
     
    Isn't current events amazing? Casino Trump, latest of a long line of Unconstitutional 'Presidents', who was an early friend of pedafile/rapist/scum/MOSSAD agent-Epstein, and connected to much other filth, -Apparently believes he is GOD!!!

    Worse, Casino Trump - fits in well with the other democrap/republicant Minions of the Devil, Shumer, Pelosi, etc.. They dance & fornicate together, rape our children, and slaughter.

    We might try to Restore Our Republic!

    Yawn.

    Imperfect Trump over the alternatives any day.

    [MORE]
    • Troll: ChuckOrloski
  • @Miggle
    Wally, thanks for that link. I'm working my way through it. I notice a couple of things, (1) they are mostly punishment for evil and murderous conduct of the Jews; (2) many seem to relate to expulsions from individual small towns, so the "1000 places" may not be so significant; (3) in a proportion of cases, a high or low proportion I don't yet know, there was a choice of converting to Christianity or leaving; (4) a high proportion are pre-Christian or relate to non-Christian countries.

    There is a big problem, though, relating to the expulsions from several cities in 1066.

    1066 A.D. - Mentz, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon,
    ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008) X

    1066 A.D. - Worms, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon,
    ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008)

    1066 A.D. - Spires, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon, ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008)

    1066 A.D. - Treves, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon, ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008)

    1066 A.D. - Verdon, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon, ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008)

     
    I haven't been able to find those Gibbon references. My Vol. II begins at Chapter XI, covers dates A.D. 268 to A.D. 359, has no p.1008: the pages go from 1 to 425, and chapters from XI to XIX. Vol. VIII has chapters LXIV to LXXI. The tables of contents have dates, those in Ch. LV have a TOC including "800-1100. Christianity in the North", those events might be there, probably not.

    Anyway, those Gibbon references need the chapter numbers. Useless as is.

    You’re welcome.

    Too bad you missed:

    (Note: jewishhistory.org.il has a list of all of the events archived here:
    https://archive.is/aRd7D — ctrl+f “expel” or “expul” for hundreds of examples)

  • Race-denialism is all over the Western world—the notion that race itself is a sort of optical illusion; that different races can, after a bit of social engineering, be brought to present the same statistical profiles on all traits; that when they present different profiles the only possible explanation is malice on the part of white...
  • Hello Mr. Derbyshire,
    So, the years of structural racism has nothing to do with it?
    People from minorities are twice as likely as white people to have been mistaken for staff in a restaurant, bar or shop.
    The global history of colonialism, and anti-black racism specifically, is in important respects a history of sustained and multiple assaults on black bodies. These assaults range from physical assault, psycho-social assault and also, among other forms of oppression, political and economic subjugation of black bodies.
    People of color in Britain need their own spaces. Black people need their own spaces. We need places in which we can gather and be free from the mainstream stereotypes and marginalization that permeate every other societal space we occupy. We need spaces where we can be our authentic selves without white people’s judgment and insecurity muzzling that expression. We need spaces where we can simply be—where we can get off the treadmill of making white people comfortable and finally realize just how tired we are.

    • Replies: @BuelahMan
    "People of color in Britain need their own spaces?"

    I call it Africa.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    People of color in Britain need their own spaces. Black people need their own spaces. We need places in which we can gather and be free from the mainstream stereotypes and marginalization that permeate every other societal space we occupy. We need spaces where we can be our authentic selves without white people’s judgment and insecurity muzzling that expression. We need spaces where we can simply be—where we can get off the treadmill of making white people comfortable and finally realize just how tired we are.
     
    EXACTLY!

    IN AFRICA.
    , @orionyx
    Colored people already have their own spaces. There's a lot of space south of the Sahara. If only those sub-Saharans could be 'encouraged' to stay there, everything would be hunky-dory for People of White, who after all have to pay the taxes for the hospitals to treat the victims (even they themselves are disproportionately colored people) and the police and prisons, to host the people of color at the other end of the knives.
    , @Gordo

    People of color in Britain need their own spaces.
     
    Those spaces are called Africa and Asia.
    , @El Dato

    People from minorities are twice as likely as white people to have been mistaken for staff in a restaurant, bar or shop.
     
    Wearing uniforms and proper attire is no longer a thing in UK?

    https://i.imgur.com/ehvKHVt.jpg
    , @Fuerchtegott
    Try developing some Empathy and becoming less solipsistic.

    https://www.historyhit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/01-destroy-this-mad-brute-wwi-propaganda-poster.jpg
    , @Adam Smith

    Black people need their own spaces. We need places in which we can gather and be free...
     
    I hear Nigeria is nice this time of year.

    https://s.abcnews.com/images/International/HT_nigeria_tk_140507_4x3_992.jpg
    , @anon19
    How about Africa sport?
    , @NoseytheDuke
    What is with the handle? You are not British and never will be, anymore than if a real British person moved to Africa would then become an African. Sorry but allowing your massive delusions to persist is just cruel.
    , @Colin Wright
    '...So, the years of structural racism has nothing to do with it?'

    Since you ask, no, it doesn't have anything to do with it. The increased incidence of criminal violence is common to all blacks, across cultures, economic circumstances, and social conditions. Blacks are more violent in Canada, in Jamaica, in London, and in Lagos. Blacks are more violent among the homeless, blacks are more violent in the workplace, blacks are more violent in the university. Blacks are more violent in the home, on the street, and in the parks. Blacks are more violent when they're among whites, they're more violent when they're among Asians, and they're more violent when they're among themselves. You can put them anywhere, and give them anything -- witness O.J. Simpson. Blacks are just more violent.

    It's all very simple. Being more violent is part of the essential genetic condition of the black man.

    Moreover, you can't change it -- whether you like it or not. It's like me being sixty one. I'm not too crazy about that fact -- but that doesn't make it stop being a fact.

    ...and don't bother calling me racist. Yes, I am racist. There's much to be racist about.
    , @niteranger
    There is no Magic Dirt. The "Claim" of Colonialism is the same tired meme. Your own leaders of your African and Islamic Nations are criminal tribalistic thugs. You destroyed the infrastructure that was left behind. China is now in Africa building you an infrastructure while raping these countries financially because your people can't do it. Your answer is always white people. No matter where you live you have the highest crime rates in the world.

    You are one step beyond the Jungle. Although this is considered an ignorant statement it is unfortunately true: " You can take them out of the Jungle but you can't take the Jungle out of them." And your behavior whether it't in the US, Britain or anywhere else seems to show this.

    Go home because you waz Kings and Queens and if you just put all those IQ points together we know what you could produce in your finest hour. Just look what you've done for America in Baltimore, Chicago and so forth.

    Aren't you proud!
    , @anonymous
    I'm autistic

    You are trolling right?
    , @Brutis
    There is a place with a lot of open spaces where black people can just be themselves, it's called Africa. You should go there and stay.
    , @Lazza
    Fucking Savages. I ask you
    , @Haruto Rat

    People from minorities are twice as likely as white people to have been mistaken for staff in a restaurant, bar or shop.
     
    That's just a minor nuisance, compared to being a white guy with a long graying beard in December. Kids, they won't back off easily.
    , @Richard S
    Lol, hey “British guy”, don’t you mean “colour”?? 🤣
    , @Hans
    Dear Mr. Brit, you are correct: the years of structural racism has nothing to do with it.

    Prove all the "racists" wrong and deny them your talents. Go back to your homelands. Consider Rhodesia and S. Africa as they are desperately in need of an immediate infusion of black talent. London, Manchester, Birmingham, Leicester, Rotherham, et al desperately need less of your talent.
    , @anonymous

    People from minorities are twice as likely as white people to have been mistaken for staff in a restaurant, bar or shop.
     
    Good grief. A more accurate comment would have been: "Minorities are twice as likely as white people to complain about being mistaken for staff."

    The reality is that liberal blacks complain much more about everything. I'm white and I've been mistaken for staff multiple times, I've never complained about it. Just shrugged and moved on. It's small stuff. Blacks are constantly harping on small stuff and, increasingly, on creating their own race hoaxes because whites aren't providing enough real opportunities for blacks to complain about "oppression" or "white supremacy". There's plenty of black spaces in Africa, move your ass there. You can be authentic there. The reason why you won't is because you know there is no way for blacks to create a 1st world economy and you like being a parasite on whites. Either assimilate to successful white norms or get the fuck out.
    , @Rutger Spuds
    Apartheid then?
    , @Zinj
    Uh, no. people of color don't need their own SPECIAL places. Unless, of course, you're a proponent of apartheid, separatism, and Black Supremacy. Either join the rest of humanity, or please go the way of the dinosaurs.
    , @Wally
    said:
    "We need spaces where we can simply be—where we can get off the treadmill of making white people comfortable and finally realize just how tired we are."

    So that's why dumb, violent blacks make the choice to leave the shitholes that they created and to keep flooding into "racist" white majority countries.

    It's worth repeating:

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see:
    - massive murder rates
    - massive crime in general
    - degraded property
    - massive disease, especially STDs
    - massive drug & alcohol abuse
    - general filth, squalor
    - massive birthrates
    - inability / unwillingness to support their own children
    - massive youth pregnancies rates
    - massive school dropout rates
    - incredibly low IQs & test scores
    - violence as a way of life
    - fathers nowhere to be found
     
    , @FatmanScoop
    YES YOUR SPACE IS AFRICA. GO BACK THERE, IDIOT
    , @Henry_Bowman U.C.
    Return to Africa.
    , @Just a thought

    Black people need their own spaces.
     
    Black people are so special God gave them an entire continent. Plenty of places in Africa for black people to have their own space, where you will encounter zero racism in your own land. Why not go back to Africa and help develop your Wakanda?

    Same goes for Indians, Chinese, Mexicans etc. God gave each of you your own countries for a reason. Dumb and wicked liberals in the west are trying to build the Tower of Babel to obfuscate their Sodom and Gomorrah, which will eventually all be destroyed. Go back to your own lands where you will encounter zero racism among your own kind, and help develop your own country.
    , @Ragno

    So, the years of structural racism has nothing to do with it?
     
    The invaluable M.G. Miles framed it with devastating clarity:

    On Planet Earth, Afro crime is high. Period.

    It is high in their homeland, Africa. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were colonizers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were not colonizers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were slavers. It is high in countries to which they migrate that were not slavers. It is high nearly everywhere they are found on this third rock from the sun.

    Idang Alibi, a Nigerian journalist, states it plainly:

    Anywhere in the world today where you have a concentration of black people among other races, the poorest, the least educated, the least achieving, and the most violent group among those races will be the blacks. When indices of underdevelopment are given, black people and countries are sure to occupy the bottom of the ladder.

    God himself must be frustrated with his black children. They must be an embarrassment to him. He has given us everything he has given to other of his children; why are his black children not manifesting their own gift?


    Afro crime is very high relative to other groups. This is why we profile.
     
    http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2013/08/why-we-profile.html
    , @Just a thought
    Other than the left wing media and a few left wing nuts, no one thinks of a black/brown/yellow person as British, they can only be "British" with the double quotes, or "English", "Scottish", "Irish", "French", "Dutch", "German", "Italian" etc.

    Sorry but that's just the reality.
    , @Paracelsus
    Structural racism, huh.

    How is this for structural racism. Modern day Africans still live in mud huts, ipso facto, every black in the U.K. and U.S. isn't far removed from mud huts themselves. Yet, we all pretend that blacks have played an utterly indispensable part in civilization.

    You're tired of us?

    Indoor plumbing, clean water, ample food, courteous customer service, not up to the non-existent African standards?

    You people are an insufferable burden and have infected our civilization and have caused incalculable damage to it. By all means, leave our society, and don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out...
    ... otherwise you'll accuse it of being racist and loiter around for another 10 generations crying about reparations for door whuppins.
    , @Amerimutt Golems
    Your evil kosher-certified ruling class is to blame.

    Another Guy Fawkes is needed and this time with a better plan. LOL.

    Disclaimer:
    I jest.
    , @Andrew Knight
    Really?
    I'm not getting into black crime, evolution, the state of Africa or even immigration.
    But, as a white man I'm scared shirtless that some black man is going to stab me for no apparent reason.
    I agree that blacks need their own space. Try Africa.
    I would like some safe space for whites.
    , @Mr Puroik
    this comment: why people voted Leave. Speaking of leaving, this has been said a lot already but why not LEAVE if you don't like it. The crazy thing is that "white supremacists" 100% agree with the notion that black people should have their own spaces. It's multicultural, elitist white liberals who believe everything ought to be a brown stew like an unflushed toilet. Maybe if you put your money where your mouth is and went to your black paradise then you wouldn't suffer from "structural racism" so much. Then again, you strike me as the sort who loves to whine and be miserable, and living in Africa might hit you with an inconvenient truth-bomb about what "black spaces" are truly like.
  • @That British Guy
    Hello Mr. Derbyshire,
    So, the years of structural racism has nothing to do with it?
    People from minorities are twice as likely as white people to have been mistaken for staff in a restaurant, bar or shop.
    The global history of colonialism, and anti-black racism specifically, is in important respects a history of sustained and multiple assaults on black bodies. These assaults range from physical assault, psycho-social assault and also, among other forms of oppression, political and economic subjugation of black bodies.
    People of color in Britain need their own spaces. Black people need their own spaces. We need places in which we can gather and be free from the mainstream stereotypes and marginalization that permeate every other societal space we occupy. We need spaces where we can be our authentic selves without white people’s judgment and insecurity muzzling that expression. We need spaces where we can simply be—where we can get off the treadmill of making white people comfortable and finally realize just how tired we are.

    said:
    “We need spaces where we can simply be—where we can get off the treadmill of making white people comfortable and finally realize just how tired we are.”

    So that’s why dumb, violent blacks make the choice to leave the shitholes that they created and to keep flooding into “racist” white majority countries.

    It’s worth repeating:

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see:
    – massive murder rates
    – massive crime in general
    – degraded property
    – massive disease, especially STDs
    – massive drug & alcohol abuse
    – general filth, squalor
    – massive birthrates
    – inability / unwillingness to support their own children
    – massive youth pregnancies rates
    – massive school dropout rates
    – incredibly low IQs & test scores
    – violence as a way of life
    – fathers nowhere to be found

    • Replies: @anon
    said:

    So that’s why dumb, violent blacks make the choice to leave the shitholes that they created and to keep flooding into “racist” white majority countries.
     
    LOL

    Please bomb and destroy some more black and brown countries, boy, so you dumb, violent race obsessed white supremacist cunts can drown much more quickly in your filthy white majority shitholes.

    It’s worth repeating:

    https://williamblum.org/images/uploads/interventions_map.png

    https://youtu.be/cQqTyyqbdnY

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or ostensibly control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents, white MI6/Mossad/CIA cunts are pulling strings and fucking everyone in the asshole.

     
    , @95Theses
    That's the short list. Do you happen to have the full list?
  • Of all the fallacies that one confronts when engaging with the theme of relations between Jews and Europeans, one of the most easily disproven is the idea that antagonism towards Jews is constantly changing. In the ‘mainstream’ reading of the history of European-Jewish interactions, the friction that exists between Jews and other elements of the...
  • Jews were found to be dangerous & loathsome by everyone, everywhere, every time, long before Christianity.

    Complete list with graphics of the Expulsions of Jews / Jews expelled from over 1,000 places in history: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12596

    • Replies: @Miggle
    Wally, thanks for that link. I'm working my way through it. I notice a couple of things, (1) they are mostly punishment for evil and murderous conduct of the Jews; (2) many seem to relate to expulsions from individual small towns, so the "1000 places" may not be so significant; (3) in a proportion of cases, a high or low proportion I don't yet know, there was a choice of converting to Christianity or leaving; (4) a high proportion are pre-Christian or relate to non-Christian countries.

    There is a big problem, though, relating to the expulsions from several cities in 1066.

    1066 A.D. - Mentz, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon,
    ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008) X

    1066 A.D. - Worms, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon,
    ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008)

    1066 A.D. - Spires, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon, ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008)

    1066 A.D. - Treves, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon, ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008)

    1066 A.D. - Verdon, Germany - Jews Expelled/Killed/Forced to Convert (E. Gibbon, ‘The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire’, Vol. II, p.1008)

     
    I haven't been able to find those Gibbon references. My Vol. II begins at Chapter XI, covers dates A.D. 268 to A.D. 359, has no p.1008: the pages go from 1 to 425, and chapters from XI to XIX. Vol. VIII has chapters LXIV to LXXI. The tables of contents have dates, those in Ch. LV have a TOC including "800-1100. Christianity in the North", those events might be there, probably not.

    Anyway, those Gibbon references need the chapter numbers. Useless as is.
  • If the neoliberal ruling classes expect to keep the American masses worked up into a white-eyed hysteria over “fascism” until November 2020, they’re going to need to get some better Nazis. The current Nazis are just not going to cut it. They are neither scary nor Nazi enough. OK, the militia ones look kind of...
  • @onebornfree
    Monotonous Languor says: "The leftist mind is a vicious feedback loop of self-hatred."

    "The Left is the most dangerous ideological phenomenon in the history of mankind. It glorifies poverty, the total state, and mass death. The Left wants to destroy Western civilization, based on Christianity, the traditional family, and the free market.

    It’s no coincidence that Communists killed more than 100 million people, not including their wars.

    By the way, young people are not taught about the evils of the Left, only its myths. They do not believe there were gigantic atrocities in the Lenin-Stalin Soviet Union, nor Mao’s China. Socialism is good! Everyone is better off under socialism. Everyone is Equal.....":
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/08/lew-rockwell/the-enemies-of-our-civilization/

    Regards, onebornfree

    Leftism is a totalitarian force.

    Wherever leftism is in a position of power it tends to invade every private corner and force every thought into a leftist mold. In part this is because of the quasi-religious character of leftism; everything contrary to leftist beliefs represents Sin. More importantly, leftism is a totalitarian force because of the leftists’ drive for power. The leftist seeks to satisfy his need for power through identification with a social movement and he tries to go through the power process by helping to pursue and attain the goals of the movement . But no matter how far the movement has gone in attaining its goals the leftist is never satisfied, because his activism is a surrogate activity . That is, the leftist’s real motive is not to attain the ostensible goals of leftism; in reality he is motivated by the sense of power he gets from struggling for and then reaching a social goal. Consequently the leftist is never satisfied with the goals he has already attained; his need for the power process leads him always to pursue some new goal. The leftist wants equal opportunities for minorities. When that is attained he insists on statistical equality of achievement by minorities. And as long as anyone harbors in some corner of his mind a negative attitude toward some minority, the leftist has to re-educated him. And ethnic minorities are not enough; no one can be allowed to have a negative attitude toward homosexuals, disabled people, fat people, old people, ugly people, and on and on and on. It’s not enough that the public should be informed about the hazards of smoking; a warning has to be stamped on every package of cigarettes. Then cigarette advertising has to be restricted if not banned. The activists will never be satisfied until tobacco is outlawed, and after that it will be alcohol, then junk food, etc. Activists have fought gross child abuse, which is reasonable. But now they want to stop all spanking. When they have done that they will want to ban something else they consider unwholesome, then another thing and then another. They will never be satisfied until they have complete control over all child rearing practices. And then they will move on to another cause.

    Ted Kaczynski

    • Agree: Wally, Miro23
    • Replies: @peterAUS

    .....the leftist’s real motive is not to attain the ostensible goals of leftism; in reality he is motivated by the sense of power he gets from struggling for and then reaching a social goal. Consequently the leftist is never satisfied with the goals he has already attained; his need for the power process leads him always to pursue some new goal.
     
    Yes.
    , @Monotonous Languor
    That's why they unwittingly call themselves Progressives. Progressive ideology has no built-in limits. If not stopped at an early stage by some outside force, they always end up eating themselves.

    Leftism is also a quasi-religion, a stealth religion that insists it is not. Leftists are eager to sacrifice you, your family, your freedoms, your nation, and your entire civilization on the bloody altar of their holy moral fantasies.
  • @OEMIKITLOB
    "more footage of glorious shitlib meltdowns."

    To a non-voter such as myself, the only thing that has been worthy of his Presidency thus far is the entertainment value that comes from watching their apoplectic fits. I can only imagine the response if he is re-elected

    He’s certainly better than the alternatives, and indeed, watching the limousine left lose it is pure schadenfreude.

    There is no doubt, Trump wins 2020. He’s playing his detractors like a fiddle.

    2016 reactions to Trump Victory:

    https://youtu.be/BXpi3F0E5ro

  • With its eschatological Bible, the West is constantly haunted by its death and hypothetical rebirth. Its apocalyptic imagination is unmatched. Christianity promises a frightful ending, as in, “Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of...
  • anon[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @nsa
    The biological purpose of human proliferation is to remove the plentiful carbon from the earth's surface and return it to the atmosphere........up to an overshoot level resulting in human extinction. The atmospheric buildup of carbon will then usher in a new golden age of plant life proliferation......eventually returning the atmospheric carbon to the earth's surface allowing a new cycle of animal proliferation to eventually emerge. The course of this natural cycle of carbon based life forms is as immutable as the tides.....only the timing is of question.

    Jurassic Park in our future!

    We are heading for a New Cretaceous, not for a new normal
    https://aeon.co/ideas/we-are-heading-for-a-new-cretaceous-not-for-a-new-normal

    Now with more plastic!

    Microplastics have turned up in the remote Arctic Ocean, which means they’re everywhere
    https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-05-13/microplastics-have-turned-remote-arctic-ocean-which-means-they-re-everywhere

    I remember George Carlin predicting this. His prophecy is a joke no longer.

    • LOL: wally
  • @nsa
    The biological purpose of human proliferation is to remove the plentiful carbon from the earth's surface and return it to the atmosphere........up to an overshoot level resulting in human extinction. The atmospheric buildup of carbon will then usher in a new golden age of plant life proliferation......eventually returning the atmospheric carbon to the earth's surface allowing a new cycle of animal proliferation to eventually emerge. The course of this natural cycle of carbon based life forms is as immutable as the tides.....only the timing is of question.

    Global greening:

    [MORE]

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/05/global-greening-is-happening-faster-than-climate-change-and-its-a-good-thing/
    “The amount of vegetation growing on the earth has been increasing every year for at least 30 years.”

    Green areas are the areas in which the vegetation has increased since 1982, massively in some areas. Infografic: Boston University

    The Carbon Dioxide Word Game
    https://principia-scientific.org/the-carbon-dioxide-word-game/

    Most Massive Scientific Fraud In Human History
    https://principia-scientific.org/most-massive-scientific-fraud-in-human-history/

    100% Of US ‘Warming’ Is Due To NOAA Data Tampering
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/12/no_author/100-us-global-warming/

    The Leading Data Tampering Excuses / NOAA
    https://principia-scientific.org/the-leading-data-tampering-excuses/

    • Replies: @anon
    It's funny when science-denialists like Wally actually admit that humans are pumping CO2 into the atmosphere in quantities enough to change the climate and ecology of the planet. Unfortunately, his cherry-picking of greening--while ignoring all the other dire consequences of increased CO2--is as dishonest as saying smoking tobacco is good for you, because nicotine causes neurons to release excess dopamine, which makes you feel relaxed and pleasant. Does anybody still believe smoking is good for you? The remainder of his lies are addressed and thoroughly debunked at SkepticalScience.com.
  • If the neoliberal ruling classes expect to keep the American masses worked up into a white-eyed hysteria over “fascism” until November 2020, they’re going to need to get some better Nazis. The current Nazis are just not going to cut it. They are neither scary nor Nazi enough. OK, the militia ones look kind of...
  • @Realist

    A few hundred bozos in MAGA hats parading around with American flags does not exactly a Sturmabteilung make.
     
    I'm not a fan of this article. It denigrate whites to feed sarcasm of the left.

    No surprise there since article author Hopkins is openly neo-Marxist.

    Truth for those like him is a mere inconvenience to be ignored.

    Shysters like Hopkins always rely on The Big Lie as their weapon and shield.

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

  • @Richard B
    "The current Nazis are just not going to cut it. They are neither scary nor Nazi enough."

    Actually, they're going to have to get better informants.

    But they can't do that because there's no one to inform on because there are no Neo-Nazis or White Supremacists.

    And the only KKK that exists today is The Kvetching Kosher Khazars.

    So they're out of luck there too.

    Fact is, The ADL/$PLC has been manufacturing these groups for years. Here's how it works.

    Through their control of The FBI they just go to their database and look up names of those down and out Whites who are up on parole, probation, or have cases pending for drug charges (opiods usually, for obvious reasons), violent offenses (sounds glamorous, but it's usually just domestic abuse cases), drunk and disorderly (bar fights) DUI, and even a sprinkling of pedos.

    From there it's a cinch to get these well-funded, well-organized, highly motivated and extremely powerful organizations to get these hard luck hicks to do their bidding.

    This has been going on for years folks. Years!

    The ADL, SPLC, ie; The Kvetching Kosher Khazars, don't fear their own Frankenstein.

    No. They fear people like Schaeffer Cox and LaVoy. Two people who didn't hate anyone, they just loved their freedom.

    The Deep State fears men like these because they are, or were, straight shooters who could inspire people to rebel within the law.

    And that's why they took them out. One by prison, the other by death.

    The result is that today, most people simply don't want to be Schaeffer Cox'd or LaVoy'd.

    And now we're back to why the powers that be need to get better Nazis.

    But no matter who they get, it won't work. Because now, everybody knows.

    What was once designed to produce crying, tears, and outrage, now only produces yawning, eye-rolling and boredom.

    Hopkins said:

    “the least they can do is get some real Nazis, and some semi-respectable Nazi hunters, and cut out this pathetic Portlandia nonsense.”

    – Q: So then, what’s a “real Nazi”?
    – A: Someone who was accused of immense crimes for which there is no proof, crimes which have been shown to be simply impossible.

    – Blinded Hopkins, cannot see beyond his childish, indoctrinated view of life.
    Unwittingly, he serves his masters well.

    [MORE]

    recommended:
    Ron Unz goes full on Revisionist, says: “Does anybody seriously believe something so totally ridiculous?”: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11985
    American Pravda: Holocaust Denial, by Ron Unz: http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-holocaust-denial/
    Babi Yar: The [alleged] Einsatzgruppen Killings: http://www.unz.com/article/babi-yar/
    “The Holocaust” Is a Myth That Conceals Our Shame: http://www.unz.com/kbarrett/the-holocaust-is-a-myth-that-conceals-our-shame/
    Teaching Holocaust, Don’t know much about history, by Philip Giraldi: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/
    • Replies: @DanFromCT
    The campus Nazi hunters of Hillel might be available to hunt crisis actors playing alt-right protestors, but not until they’re finished with their present Dem/msm gig as Antifas.
  • I can think of only one thing which unites Adolf Hitler and Noam Chomsky: a shared contempt for and critique of capitalist mass-media democracy. Concerning Hitler’s speeches, we usually think of rapturous exhortations to his party-comrades. However, the Führer could sometimes strike a more pedagogical note. Such was the case in a December 1940 speech...
  • @Matra
    A peace plan which could have save many British lives

    Much like Molotov-Ribbentrop saved Soviet lives and Munich saved Czechoslovakia. lol

    The Munich agreement is irrelevant.

    Czech President Hacha asked Hitler for protectorate status, for variety of reasons, simple stuff that you dodge.

    recommended:
    Why did Germany annex all of Czechoslovakia? / It didn’t.
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9569

    You’ve also dodge the facts presented at The Unz Review which prove that the USSR was planning a massive attack.

    You’ve dodged the many examples of Hitler wanting peace and who really started WWII that I posted in comment #13 and that have been written about at The Unz Review.

    IOW, you’re a juvenile who is full of easily debunked Zionist crap.

    • Agree: Mulegino1
    • Replies: @Mulegino1
    Indeed, Wally.

    These people are unable to digest the most documented historical facts without a kosher narrative to follow.
  • @Durruti

    3. Proof for your “democratically elected” Spanish Communists is where?

     
    Never wrote that. Wrote - Democratically elected Spanish Republic. Republic Government in 1936 had NO Communist members. Do not let facts stand in your way.

    Do not have all day to answer all your misconceptions. When Germany finished dining on Czechoslovakia, Hitler agreed to let Poland annex a portion of Northern Czech, as a payoff for Poland's support for the German gluttony.

    The Polish government was a military/police dictatorship, much as was Germany's & Russia's & Italy. I prefer Democratic Republics when I can get them.

    Polish atrocities against Germany? And Epstein hanged himself!

    That was easy, if a bit dreary.

    LOL again.

    You simply have no answers to my factual rebuttals. You simply dodge them.

    You start fights and then get clobbered.

    You are making a fool of yourself.

  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @Carolyn Yeager
    What I don't understand is why you're still calling yourself a 'Holocaust' skeptic -- after all these years you've been engaging in comment threads (at least 10), you haven't made it past being a 'skeptic'?

    What does it take to convince you fully? Or do you think that remaining a skeptic makes you more credible?

    What single English word would you prefer? — I don’t like “denier” and its connotation (meaning I would not call myself that; I don’t care if anyone else does, although I might criticize the semantics of the term, ie that it presupposes there is undisputed, established historical fact that I am ‘denying’) — I would not say revisionist either because I do not research and produce/write articles etc myself — see comment #58 — the word skeptic (think ‘reasonable doubt’) clearly says there is not enough convincing evidence for me to believe the ‘exterminationist’ story: that the Germans intended and tried to exterminate the Jews — without elaborating beyond a “single English word” (which I also do), the word skeptic works well enough in this sense.

    Or do you think that remaining a skeptic makes you more credible?

    Just to be clear: beyond wanting exactly what I write to be clearly understood, I do not really care about being more (or less) “credible” to you or anyone else.

    • LOL: Wally
    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    With all respect, your reasoning here is pretty weak.

    I don’t like “denier” and its connotation [because] it presupposes there is undisputed, established historical fact that I am ‘denying’.
     
    But the holocaust workers and believers SAY there is undisputed, established historical fact that what they call the Holocaust actually occurred ... and THAT is what we're denying. That's why I no longer run away from the word 'denier' but also make it clear just WHAT I am denying.

    the word skeptic (think ‘reasonable doubt’) clearly says there is not enough convincing evidence for me to believe the ‘exterminationist’ story: that the Germans intended and tried to exterminate the Jews
     
    'Reasonable doubt' and 'skeptic' (forget the dictionary) imply that you're still open. Are you still open? Is there something that could yet convince you? Can this case never be closed? Is the truth and the German nation forever to be held hostage to this blatant libel? I think Wally's problem is that he has been doing this for so long that his patience is very thin.

    But then to say you don't care whether you are credible to anyone belies your engagement in so many places for all these years arguing for holocaust revisionism, and your scolding of Wally for not being credible, in your opinion. So of course you're trying to be credible and want to be seen as credible.

    As to what word I would prefer, if you don't like 'denier' I would suggest 'disbeliever.' Any word that completely crosses out 'believing' is preferable to skeptic (which I might define as a weasel word) ... unless that really is a person's position, usually a beginner.
  • @eah
    Dude, you are really a fucking idiot -- in the comment you reference, the only thing I said about the Einsatzgruppen was this:

    The Germans occupied a huge amount of territory, over/through which they had to reliably supply their advancing armies — securing the occupied territories was the job of the Einsatzgruppen — a certain amount of brutality was employed, partly to frighten the civilian population away from sabotage and partisan warfare.
     
    What is there to 'debunk' there? -- there is nothing to 'debunk', and there was no 'debunking' by the only person who replied, which was not you.

    I honestly think you're mentally ill.

    Oh yeah, you’re the clownish & fake German speaker that I & many others have slapped silly with your laughable “holocaust” fantasies.

    Yeah, "many others" -- "LOL" -- and BTW I'm a 'Holocaust' skeptic -- that ought to be clear from just the comments I've made on this thread -- aber beim Lesen und Verstehen bist du ja deutlich ürberfordert.

    Again you do what Zionists alway do; lie, mislead, and project what’s true of them on others.
    Pure trash.

    You said of the Einsatzgruppen:

    “a certain amount of brutality was employed, partly to frighten the civilian population away from sabotage and partisan warfare.”

    – Yet you cannot, did not back that up. You predictably avoided the fact that the Einsatzgruppen executions of ‘partisans’, aka: terrorists, were quite legal.

    You also, like a good little Zionist, said in that comment:

    “Hitler made it clear he was waging a Vernichtungskrieg in the East — a war of annihilation — he meant to eliminate Jüdischer Bolschewismus, and the USSR, its political manifestation, as a threat to western Europe, for good .. ”

    – No, Hitler made it clear that he was defending Germany and Europe from Stalin’s planned attack.
    – And as usual, you imply that Jews were exterminated in the east, in spite of having no proof whatsoever.

    You’re in over your head.

    • LOL: eah
    • Replies: @eah
    – Yet you cannot, did not back that up. You predictably avoided the fact that the Einsatzgruppen executions of ‘partisans’, aka: terrorists, were quite legal.

    Once again you show what a cretin you are -- I didn't 'avoid' anything; it was just a brief comment, not a revisionist treatise you fucking moron -- I didn't say anything about the 'legality' of Einsatzgruppen killings (which you admit happened) because 1) I do not know the circumstances of any particular killing (neither do you of course: you just childishly call them all "terrorists", and think that settles the matter), and 2) I'm not familiar with that area of law so I could not say in any case.

    It's as simple as that.

    And I don't have to 'back up' the "brutality" accusation -- this is a subjective term, one you may not agree with; that's fine -- but I think most reasonable people (you are not among them) would agree that 'brutal' is not an inappropriate description of the large number of summary executions carried out by the Einsatzgruppen.

    Same as the summary executions carried out as a result of the Kommissarbefehl were brutal -- anyone deemed a 'Kommissar' was summarily executed, without being accused of any specific crime and without any kind of process.

    Finally, here is the difference between you and me: you call Einsatzgruppen victims "terrorists" -- pauschal -- without defining that term, justifying it, or knowing anything about the particular circumstances of the vast majority of these killings.

    But you are so stupid, such an intellectual pygmy, you cannot see your own hypocrisy -- it's pathetic really.
  • I can think of only one thing which unites Adolf Hitler and Noam Chomsky: a shared contempt for and critique of capitalist mass-media democracy. Concerning Hitler’s speeches, we usually think of rapturous exhortations to his party-comrades. However, the Führer could sometimes strike a more pedagogical note. Such was the case in a December 1940 speech...
  • @Parfois1
    Another one whitewashing Fascism to make it an acceptable ideology to save the white race. The first edition killed 12 million Germans, twice as many Russians and many more millions of other Europeans. What for? To make America great, perhaps ...

    The author is unfurling his full colours; maybe grateful for Hitler's mercy on France?

    said:
    “The first edition killed 12 million Germans, twice as many Russians and many more millions of other Europeans. ”

    Except that your Zionist propaganda has been repeatedly & easily shown to be false, please review this site.

  • @Durruti

    There simply was no choice for Germany, they fought to defend themselves. Hitler led that defense.
     
    Thanks for your intelligent response.

    You (and other commentators) appear to idealize Hitler. You cannot let go, anymore than some who still cling to the wretched farce of Casino Trump - and the Game of twin political gangs.

    I ask for some more intelligent responses (no more citations - how do you explain?)

    1. I would ask you to explain Hitler/German Government's actions concerning Czechoslovakia.
    After the Czechs surrendered their border fortresses, and the German Government promised to respect Czechoslovakia's (what remained of it), National integrity, they invaded and absorbed the rest of that nation.

    Excuses here...………………………….

    2. After Mussolini's Italy invaded Ethiopia, and with the use of poison gas and airpower, seized that nation, Hitler announced his support for Italy's imperialist aggression. What right did Italy have to Ethiopia? or to Greece? What did Germans gain (before the courts of History and God), by supporting Italian Imperialism?

    You may cough here...…………………….

    3. Germany/Hitler and Italy/Mussolini (along with the USA, and England), supported the overthrow of the democratically elected Government of the Spanish Republic. [Understand who you are talking to here]

    Enter your excuses here...…………………...

    4. Had Germany/Hitler/Nazis conquered Russia, what was his plan for the conquered Russian people?

    Answer here...……………………………..

    5. Did Germany need a land route to East Prussia? Was the issue worth a war? Could Poland have been left in peace?

    Park your Volkswagen here...……………………...

    Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Obomber, Bushes, Casino Trump, the Clintons, Zionist controlled American Congress, are indefensible. Oh! I left Djugashvili & his cohorts out; kindly put them in the list.

    I set you an impossible task. You should refuse to answer the questions.

    We must Restore Our American Republic!

    God Bless!

    – No one here “idealizes Hitler”, But they do want factual history known & taught.
    – Trump is flawed, so what? I never said he wasn’t. Much better than Hillary and any known alternatives

    1. I demolished that propaganda repeatedly, search my comments at this site for Czechoslovakia and learn something for a change.
    http://www.unz.com/?s=czechoslovakia&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Wally
    BTW, Hacha asked for Protectorate status.

    2. Germany did not support the use of mustard gas by Italy.
    facts:

    – Britain & France did not declare war on the communist USSR which invaded from the east and took 60% of Poland.
    – USSR invaded Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Poland, invaded & annexed parts of Romania, invaded Iran, invaded northern Norway and the Danish island of Bornholm, yet the ‘Allies’ did nothing.
    – Lithuania, Iran, and invasion & annexation of parts of Romania.
    – Poland threaten Lithuania with an ultimatum.
    – Poland invaded and annexed parts of Czechoslovakia, held large parts of German territory, was engaged in atrocities against German civilians. Yet the ‘Allies’ did nothing.
    – The “neutral” US had been attacking German U-boats & shipping, while supplying both Britain & the USSR long before Germany’s declaration of war on the US.
    – Brits invaded & were mining Norway at Narvik before Germany arrived & stopped it.
    – France had positioned 2 million soldiers on the Belgian border, and the BEF had almost another half million.
    – France and England were already violating Belgian and Dutch “neutrality” with impunity by flying aircraft over the lowlands.
    – It is important to remember that France had already invaded Germany, the Saar in 1939, and that throughout this entire period Hitler was begging Churchill to negotiate a return to the status quo.
    – British invaded Iceland and Iran
    – Norway, who claimed neutrality, in fact aided & abetted Britain by not mobilizing it’s armed forces against British mining of their ports & sea lanes.
    – “Neutral” Belgium actually aided & abetted France & britain by allowing France to position 2 million if it’s soldiers in Belgium, and also allowed the British to add another half million troops within Belgium.
    – France and England were also allowed to use Belgian and Dutch airspace with impunity for their military aircraft.

    3. Proof for your “democratically elected” Spanish Communists is where?

    4. To free them from Communism and Stalin’s atrocities against them.

    5. Yes, Germany wanted it’s stolen land back and insisted that Polish atrocities against Germans be stopped.

    – What about Stalin’s son “Djugashvili & his cohorts”?

    That was easy. Cheers.

    • Replies: @Malla
    You missed that Rudolf Hess went with a peace plan to Britain. Rudolf Hess, the second in command in the Third Reich went personally. A peace plan which could have save many British lives. But Churchill had him imprisoned, later for life and then the British ZOG elites had him killed in prison to prevent this fact coming out. Hitler was trying all he could for peace.
    , @Durruti

    3. Proof for your “democratically elected” Spanish Communists is where?

     
    Never wrote that. Wrote - Democratically elected Spanish Republic. Republic Government in 1936 had NO Communist members. Do not let facts stand in your way.

    Do not have all day to answer all your misconceptions. When Germany finished dining on Czechoslovakia, Hitler agreed to let Poland annex a portion of Northern Czech, as a payoff for Poland's support for the German gluttony.

    The Polish government was a military/police dictatorship, much as was Germany's & Russia's & Italy. I prefer Democratic Republics when I can get them.

    Polish atrocities against Germany? And Epstein hanged himself!

    That was easy, if a bit dreary.
  • It is astonishing to observe some Americans twisting themselves into pretzels so they can continue to make excuses to explain the bizarre behavior of President Donald Trump on the world stage. The line most commonly heard is that he has “kept us out of new wars.” The reality is somewhat different. He has kept us...
  • @follyofwar
    I concur, Wally, exept for your use of the term "small beer." Love him or hate him, there's nothing small beer about Mr. Trump.

    It seems to me that those advocating for Trump's impeachment could, unwittingly, guarantee his re-election. Most, I think, don't like a legally elected president to be impeached over policy differences. Using that criteria, every president could be impeached.

    Mr. Giraldi asks if VP Pence could "possibly be worse than Donald Trump." Emphatically I say that he not only COULD be, but quite likely WOULD be. One example: Trump should have never sent such a huge naval presence into the Persian Gulf, but, who knows, Pence may have done so even sooner. And, after that Iranian shoot down of the US drone, would Pence, an Israel-first neocon in good standing, have held back from retaliating?

    Lastly, I find it a little odd that Mr. Giraldi uses the Omar/Tlaib incident as grounds for impeachment. Trump was ill-advised to say what he did (sadly a nearly daily occurance), but that seems like a minor incident, similar in severity to the republicans ridiculous attempt to impeach Clinton over lying about Lewinsky's semen stained blue dress. The easy way to get rid of Trump is the way this country usually does it - vote him out of office at the ballot box, not make him a martyr by trying to get rid of him a few months before next November's election. Besides, the Senate will never convict.

    Thanks.

    – Comparatively speaking, Trump is indeed small beer next to the warmongering of Hillary ‘forcefully ending the Russian presense in Syria’ Clinton, for example.

    – And while Trump blusters about places like Iran, he’s nowhere close to McCain school of ‘attack now, ask questions later’.

    – Trump’s “sending” of naval forces is hardly the same as actually attacking with those forces.

    – BTW, the impeachent of Clinton was based upon his lying under oath concerning his sexual absue of Gennifer Flowers, not about his semen on Lewinsky.

    – Trump’s re-election is guaranteed. Hell, he now has a +50% rating with Hispanics and there are more & more some blacks who are tired of being on the neo-Marxist plantation and are seeing through their game.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Hell, he now has a +50% rating with Hispanics and there are more & more some blacks who are tired of being on the neo-Marxist plantation and are seeing through their game.
     
    But are the blacks who support him eligible to vote?
  • @Herald
    What is the point of giving reasons to impeach the Clintons and Bushes, when it is Trump who is the incumbent of the White House? Your post makes absolutely no sense and seems little more than a feeble attempt at giving cover in regard to Trump's erratic behaviour.

    Please pay attention.

    I’m pointing out the double standard by Giraldi, and now by those like yourself.

    Trump’s behaviour, while erratic, is certainly better than the alternatives.

    All of that went right over your little head.

    • Replies: @ChuckOrloski
    Haha. Selectively attentive & little Wally said to Herald: "Please pay attention. I’m pointing out the double standard by Giraldi, and now by those like yourself."

    Above, 🙄.

    uh, really, Giraldi's "double standard"? (Zigh) W.T.F. more can I say about tRump's many F.P. accomplishments for Israel🇮🇱?

    Haha. How 'bout tRump's domestic terrorism upon "Homelander" Representatives, Omar and Tlaib?
    , @Realist

    Trump’s behaviour, while erratic, is certainly better than the alternatives.
     
    Having one arm cut off instead of two is the better alternative....your point?

    The best choice would be not vote, thereby not being responsible for the disaster.
    , @Herald
    Now you're just being silly. Excusing boorishness, ignorance and plain stupidity, on the hypothetical grounds that someone else might have been worse is as intellectually threadbare as it is laughable. You really need to try much harder.
  • @obwandiyag
    Sorry. But he didn't start any wars, and didn't heat any up either. He couldn't end them, although he is basically anti-war, because you know why.

    I wonder why Obama, the Clintons, Bush 1&2, etc. get no “good reasons to impeach” list.

    Trump is small beer in comparison.

    Generally you do good work, Phil Giraldi, but this time your avoiding the big picture …. while you ignore the 2016 alternative, Hillary.

    Regards.

    • Replies: @Herald
    What is the point of giving reasons to impeach the Clintons and Bushes, when it is Trump who is the incumbent of the White House? Your post makes absolutely no sense and seems little more than a feeble attempt at giving cover in regard to Trump's erratic behaviour.
    , @follyofwar
    I concur, Wally, exept for your use of the term "small beer." Love him or hate him, there's nothing small beer about Mr. Trump.

    It seems to me that those advocating for Trump's impeachment could, unwittingly, guarantee his re-election. Most, I think, don't like a legally elected president to be impeached over policy differences. Using that criteria, every president could be impeached.

    Mr. Giraldi asks if VP Pence could "possibly be worse than Donald Trump." Emphatically I say that he not only COULD be, but quite likely WOULD be. One example: Trump should have never sent such a huge naval presence into the Persian Gulf, but, who knows, Pence may have done so even sooner. And, after that Iranian shoot down of the US drone, would Pence, an Israel-first neocon in good standing, have held back from retaliating?

    Lastly, I find it a little odd that Mr. Giraldi uses the Omar/Tlaib incident as grounds for impeachment. Trump was ill-advised to say what he did (sadly a nearly daily occurance), but that seems like a minor incident, similar in severity to the republicans ridiculous attempt to impeach Clinton over lying about Lewinsky's semen stained blue dress. The easy way to get rid of Trump is the way this country usually does it - vote him out of office at the ballot box, not make him a martyr by trying to get rid of him a few months before next November's election. Besides, the Senate will never convict.
  • I can think of only one thing which unites Adolf Hitler and Noam Chomsky: a shared contempt for and critique of capitalist mass-media democracy. Concerning Hitler’s speeches, we usually think of rapturous exhortations to his party-comrades. However, the Führer could sometimes strike a more pedagogical note. Such was the case in a December 1940 speech...
  • @Durruti
    Nice well written & researched thought provoking article by Guillaume Durocher.

    Hitler most likely served the Zionist Bankers, as his "Night of the Longknives" - 1934, rid the Nazi movement of its anti-capitalist element.

    Hitler did not effectively criticize Zionism or the ruinous financial system. He blamed the Versailles Treaty for most of Germany's ills.

    Noam Chomsky has had more serious political and economic analysis to offer over the decades, than most any other American. He has authored more than 100 books.

    Hitler and his movement led the German people into the trap (perhaps a Zionist trap), of ruinous (to Europe), Imperialist Conflict, and in that, and in his racialist approach, resembles Churchill, and the British Royal Family more than he could ever admit.

    without a clue said:

    “Hitler and his movement led the German people into the trap (perhaps a Zionist trap), of ruinous (to Europe), Imperialist Conflict, and in that, and in his racialist approach, resembles Churchill, and the British Royal Family more than he could ever admit.”

    – What countries didn’t have a “racialist approach”?

    – There simply was no choice for Germany, they fought to defend themselves. Hitler led that defense. Perfect examples here:

    Roosevelt Conspired to Start World War II in Europe: http://www.unz.com/article/roosevelt-conspired-to-start-world-war-ii-in-europe/

    Why Germany Attacked the Soviet Union, Hitler’s Declaration of War Against the USSR – Two Historic Documents, by Mark Weber: http://www.unz.com/article/why-germany-attacked-the-soviet-union/

    [Video] A Last Appeal To Reason – Hitler’s various peace offers: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=12662

    Hitler’s Peace Offers: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=10192

    Operation Barbarossa Was A Preventive Attack: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999
    and:
    http://www.unz.com/announcement/the-remarkable-historiography-of-david-irving/

    • Agree: Cucksworth
    • Replies: @Durruti

    There simply was no choice for Germany, they fought to defend themselves. Hitler led that defense.
     
    Thanks for your intelligent response.

    You (and other commentators) appear to idealize Hitler. You cannot let go, anymore than some who still cling to the wretched farce of Casino Trump - and the Game of twin political gangs.

    I ask for some more intelligent responses (no more citations - how do you explain?)

    1. I would ask you to explain Hitler/German Government's actions concerning Czechoslovakia.
    After the Czechs surrendered their border fortresses, and the German Government promised to respect Czechoslovakia's (what remained of it), National integrity, they invaded and absorbed the rest of that nation.

    Excuses here...………………………….

    2. After Mussolini's Italy invaded Ethiopia, and with the use of poison gas and airpower, seized that nation, Hitler announced his support for Italy's imperialist aggression. What right did Italy have to Ethiopia? or to Greece? What did Germans gain (before the courts of History and God), by supporting Italian Imperialism?

    You may cough here...…………………….

    3. Germany/Hitler and Italy/Mussolini (along with the USA, and England), supported the overthrow of the democratically elected Government of the Spanish Republic. [Understand who you are talking to here]

    Enter your excuses here...…………………...

    4. Had Germany/Hitler/Nazis conquered Russia, what was his plan for the conquered Russian people?

    Answer here...……………………………..

    5. Did Germany need a land route to East Prussia? Was the issue worth a war? Could Poland have been left in peace?

    Park your Volkswagen here...……………………...

    Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Obomber, Bushes, Casino Trump, the Clintons, Zionist controlled American Congress, are indefensible. Oh! I left Djugashvili & his cohorts out; kindly put them in the list.

    I set you an impossible task. You should refuse to answer the questions.

    We must Restore Our American Republic!

    God Bless!
  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @eah
    I've told you before about your über-obnoxious tone, aber du bist offensichtlich nicht lernfähig -- und natürlich hat Joseph Hirt absolut nichts mit August Hirt sogar eine 'Skeletsammlung' zu tun -- ?

    Your first link doesn't work.

    Oh yeah, you’re the clownish & fake German speaker that I & many others have slapped silly with your laughable “holocaust” fantasies.

    Your debunked Einsatzgruppen comment #441 here:
    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/heart-of-darkness-germany/
    is a classic example.

    You get your head handed to you again.

    Ouch!

    • Replies: @eah
    Dude, you are really a fucking idiot -- in the comment you reference, the only thing I said about the Einsatzgruppen was this:

    The Germans occupied a huge amount of territory, over/through which they had to reliably supply their advancing armies — securing the occupied territories was the job of the Einsatzgruppen — a certain amount of brutality was employed, partly to frighten the civilian population away from sabotage and partisan warfare.
     
    What is there to 'debunk' there? -- there is nothing to 'debunk', and there was no 'debunking' by the only person who replied, which was not you.

    I honestly think you're mentally ill.

    Oh yeah, you’re the clownish & fake German speaker that I & many others have slapped silly with your laughable “holocaust” fantasies.

    Yeah, "many others" -- "LOL" -- and BTW I'm a 'Holocaust' skeptic -- that ought to be clear from just the comments I've made on this thread -- aber beim Lesen und Verstehen bist du ja deutlich ürberfordert.
  • San Franciscans unable to afford the $3,600 monthly rental for a one bedroom apartment sleep in the streets and, like most world cities Beijing recently faced a similar problem. Twenty-three million prosperous Beijingers wanted meals from local restaurants but the quarter-million migrant workers who delivered them could not afford the city’s eye-watering rents. Resourcefully, they...
  • @obwandiyag
    Which you don't have in China because China is socialist. Get un-confused.

    China also does not have lazy, dumb blacks, aka: Africans.

    • Replies: @lloyd
    It does actually quite a number and they are identified with China's burgeoning drug problem. But they are not lazy and dumb. So maybe you are right.
  • An ant is an amazing creature, a marvel of miniaturization and compressed complexity. With only a tiny brain, it absorbs and interprets a flood of data from its myriad sense-organs, navigating a complex and constantly changing world, co-operating and communicating with its nest-mates, collaborating in prodigies of architecture, engineering and logistics. No human robot can...
  • @Jabberless
    The antiSemitism in this article is patent and obnoxious. Many western intellectual Jews are Leftists but certainly not all.
    That other, perhaps many more, Leftist intellectual authors who hold the same liberal views and who are Gentile or Christian or perhaps Muslim is not mentioned by the writer but when there is possibility that the Leftist is Jewish the writer takes pains to point it out.
    This is blatant antiSemitism - period.
    And for this Rightist correspondent it is shameful and condemns the article to the trash can.

    So what’s wrong with “antisemitism”?

    fact:
    Jews demand low IQ, 3rd world immigration into the US & Europe while they support very strict Israeli immigration laws which mandate JEWS ONLY.

  • Following Jeffery Epstein’s alleged suicide last week we have been deluged by a tsunami of narratives that do not adhere to the shifting official reports of his death. Presumably a few of the intimate secrets of the most powerful people on this planet will be buried with Epstein. While it is rational to believe that...
  • @Fran Taubman
    I hope you realize that when Jewish people read your post they are thinking you are from another planet, that is the conspiracy. They scratch their collective heads.
    Most Jews are trying to get thru the day like you, figuring out how to earn a living and maybe go on vacation. Personally I have not been on one in 15 years I am so stressed about supporting myself in the arts.
    You do realize you are mentally ill? Jews do not have time to conspirer against anyone. Would you have time to create intentional chaos in the world to take it over?
    I like the Neo Nazis more then the conspiracy crazies, they just hate Jews for no reason. Not like you with your invasion of the body snatchers scenario.

    The fact is that Zionists have NOT made a living like everyone else.

    They have simply scammed the west for tons of unearned cash, preferential treatment, and political power based largely upon their fake & impossible “holocaust” horseshit.

    Speaking of your “arts”, you have extreme advantages, privileges to the disadvantage of everyone else:

    [MORE]

  • @Gilad Atzmon
    Tx so much Bruce...

    The mentioned Murray Rothbard said of Revisonism:

    “Revisionism has the general function of bringing historical truth to a public that had been drugged by wartime lies and propaganda.

    Now revisionism teaches us that this entire myth, so prevalent then and even now about Hitler, and about the Japanese, is a tissue of fallacies from beginning to end. Every plank in this nightmare evidence is either completely untrue or not entirely the truth. If people should learn this intellectual fraud about Hitler’s Germany, then they will begin to ask questions, and searching questions, about the current World War III version of the same myth. Nothing would stop the current headlong flight to war faster, or more surely cause people to begin to reason about foreign affairs once again, after a long orgy of emotion and cliché.

    For the same myth is now based on the same old fallacies. And this is seen by the increasing use that the Cold Warriors have been making of the “Munich myth”: the continually repeated charge that it was the “appeasement” of the “aggressor” at Munich that “fed” his “aggression” (again, the Fu Manchu, or Wild Beast, comparison), and that caused the “aggressor,” drunk with his conquests, to launch World War II. This Munich myth has been used as one of the leading arguments against any sort of rational negotiations with the Communist nations, and the stigmatizing of even the most harmless search for agreement as “appeasement.” It is for this reason that A.J.P. Taylor’s magnificent Origins of the Second World War received probably its most distorted and frenetic review in the pages of National Review.

    The task of revisionism has been to penetrate beneath these superficialities and appearances to the stark realities underneath — realities which show, certainly in this century, the United States, Great Britain, and France — the three great “democracies” — to be worse than any other three countries in fomenting and waging aggressive war. Realization of this truth would be of incalculable importance on the current scene.

    For revisionism, in the final analysis, is based on truth and rationality. Truth and rationality are always the first victims in any war frenzy; and they are, therefore, once again an extremely rare commodity on today’s “market.” Revisionism brings to the artificial frenzy of daily events and day-to-day propaganda, the cool but in the last analysis glorious light of historical truth. Such truth is almost desperately needed in today’s world.”

    – Righteous Jew, Murray Rothbard, Review of The Origins of the Second World War, 1966
    http://mises.org/daily/2592

    Cheers.

    • Replies: @Gilad Atzmon
    Back in 1966 many Jews saw revisionism as a valid and even necessary outlook,,, this changed when holocaust revisionism pointed at cracks in the Zionist H narrative ....
  • See, earlier, by John Derbyshire: “Racism” (The Word) Becoming Obsolete Because Of Racism—Anti-White, That Is Founding stock Americans are now perilously close to becoming a powerless minority ruled over by aliens who cherish a carefully cultivated resentment—not to say hatred—towards us. If nothing is done to change the trajectory in which our society is moving,...
  • @jack daniels
    What a stupid article. Devlin doesn't make a single point that his readers haven't heard and affirmed a hundred times. And, like that lunkhead Sean Hannity, he seems to think the goal of political advocacy is to convict the opponent of … hypocrisy!!

    To which the opponents will say, a la Walt Whitman: Do I contradict myself? Very well, I contradict myself!

    I am reminded of the poem "Spider and the Fly" by Don Marquis. A spider has captured a fly and the fly pleads for his life. At the end of the narrative the fly wishes he had "a better line of talk" to which the spider replies, "the end of our conversation would have been exactly the same" and proceeds to eat him.

    What people like Devlin need to provide their readers is a strategic analysis of the enemy with recommendations for fighting him effectively. Crying in one's beer is less productive than watching another baseball game, which at least provides relaxation.

    said:
    “What a stupid article. Devlin doesn’t make a single point that his readers haven’t heard and affirmed a hundred times.”

    Like where? Give us a few.

  • The European peoples have long thought and felt that each of them was unique, reflecting the particularly history and struggles the successive generations of their ancestors. The cultural differences of European nations have long been known, but today, genetic science is also able to quantify just how unique each nation is from a biological point...
  • @Beefcake the Mighty
    Hi j2, completely OT, but I had a question about one of your sources for the upper bound on the deaths at Auschwitz. What is the origin of your claim that 410K Jews survived in concentration camps after the war? The only thing I could find online (I was able to verify all the other numbers) was a claim by the USHMM that according to SS records there were 700K camp inmates at the end of the war, but nothing on Jews specifically. Presumably most were Jews, but I was wondering if you had a specific source. Thanks in advance.

    Remember, j2 also claims millions of Jews were “holocausted” …. without a shred of proof.

    • Replies: @j2
    "Remember, j2 also claims millions of Jews were “holocausted” …. without a shred of proof."

    OK Wally, I know you have some agenda of your own. But let us calculate a lower bound to how many Jews died in the WWII.
    1) German POW camps in Northern Finland had the death ratio 24.5%. It was better than what Finnish POW camps had, 29.5%, so nothing to blame in this death ratio. People die in POW camps.
    2) Germans transported 4 million Jews from the West and West Poland and got 1 million to their hands after the attack to the Soviet Union in 1941. That is 5 million Jews. If out of them died 25%, that is 1.25 million deaths.
    3) The Soviet Union evacuated about 2.5 million Jews. Of them died about 0.85 million in Soviet camps (my estimate just based on a reasonable death ratio for Soviet camps, much better than on Soviet POW camps).
    4) In Romania in transports and camps died 160,000 Jews.
    Together these give the minimum death toll of 1.25+0.85+0.16=2.26 million. By a more precise calculation I get to 2.5 million. What in the world are you complaining in this?
    , @Beefcake the Mighty
    Give me a break. In a horrible war in which 10's of millions were killed, why would you doubt that Jewish deaths were in the 1-2M range (something revisionists like Butz and Sanning believe)? j2 makes very clear he doesn't believe the official story, and his meticulous work here supports the revisionist position. What do you think you're accomplishing by attacking anyone who doesn't adhere to an extreme revisionist position (really a caricature of revisionism)?
  • @Tired of Not Winning
    Swedes are the most gorgeous race. Think Ann Margaret, Candice Bergen in their prime, and now Rebecca Ferguson. It's too bad they're all rushing off to miscegenate thanks to leftist retardation.

    Speaking of Swedes:

    Germans Display ‘F*ck You Greta’ Bumper Stickers to Protest Being Lectured About [alleged] Global Warming

    https://summit.news/2019/07/03/germans-display-fck-you-greta-bumper-stickers-to-protest-being-lectured-about-global-warming/

    • Replies: @Another German Reader
    Everyone knows that the Iraqi Climate-Change-Deniers took Greta's Kuweiti baby-siblings out of incubators and threw them on the floor.
    , @Anon
    Agree , nordics are always lecturing mankind on anythinng , those bunch of moron peripheric schizoids think they are the center of the world .

    Agree with the germans , fuck you Greta , fuck you , assfaced swede !
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    Greta Thunberg sets sail for NYC on zero-emissions yacht

    Is a "zero-emissions yacht" like a sailboat?
  • See, earlier, by John Derbyshire: “Racism” (The Word) Becoming Obsolete Because Of Racism—Anti-White, That Is Founding stock Americans are now perilously close to becoming a powerless minority ruled over by aliens who cherish a carefully cultivated resentment—not to say hatred—towards us. If nothing is done to change the trajectory in which our society is moving,...
  • @anonymous
    I'm convinced that this "white supremacy" slogan being thrown around theses days is the product of a deliberate ad-type propaganda campaign that's being pushed from behind. To me it just has that feel. Prior to some point in time you never heard it; now it's all over. It reminds me of those ad campaigns where they inundate the public with some catchy jingle or tune and everyone seems to be singing it. Somewhere it was decided to push certain key phrases as part of this anti-white, anti-majority, anti-deplorable campaign. Can't prove this suspicion, of course, but it has the timing and feel of an artificially created blitz with this as its slogan.
    Much of leftism and so-called progressivism has been absorbed into PC-cult-think which has become a mindless religion of sorts for many people. This has lead to many white people screaming for their own end, a perplexing phenomenon. The rhetoric has become very shrill these days and one gets the unpleasant feeling that there's a showdown looming in the background somewhere, that at some point they'll up the ante and try to move beyond name-calling. It's not going to be forever possible for your average person to keep ignoring the invective and hatred being poured upon them. If you don't intend to get purged out of existence then better start getting more outspoken and bolder as a start.

    The elephant in the room here:

    All these “white supremacist, neo-Nazi, devil words” are enabled by the proven fraud commonly called the “holocaust”.

    Cast aside the impossible ‘6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers’ and those words have little power.

    Say what you like, but until then, nothing will change.

    • Replies: @Cowboy

    All these “white supremacist, neo-Nazi, devil words” are enabled by the proven fraud commonly called the “holocaust”.
     
    I believe that "blood libel" is one example of "devil words" that long predates the holohoax. There are books, statues, even court decisions made about jews extracting the blood of goyim for use in their Purim and other rituals.

    Unlike the holohoax, there are no memorials or faked photographs and "Einsatugruppe" reports to counter the fact of centuries of executed Rabbi's who were caught extracting goyim blood.

    So even if you proved that holohoax, which proving a negative is virtually impossible, the Talmudists would simply revert back to their earlier "anti-semitism" bludgeons: "Blood Libel" and "the Pogroms".
  •   It is just a coincidence, but the initials NNT are best known to me as Numbers Needed to Treat. This is a measure of the numbers of patients you need to give a drug to in order to get one cure. For example, an NNT of 5 means that you have to treat five...
  • @jester
    This Wally fellow is a genuine moron. Everyone is a marxist and communist. Wally, this a a great blog spot and we need comments with ideas and perspectives we can ponder. Your comments are neither logical, useful or tasteful. Try to elevate yourself and your intellect.

    You come across as really dumb!

    LOL You simply dodged my points.

    It’s understandable that you would be desperately name calling since I’ve slapped your nonsense silly.

    Cheers.

  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @eah
    Jewish Skeleton Collection

    The main person usually associated with this is August Hirt -- I do not know much about it -- this blog has a number of entries about Hirt and his work.

    “August Hirt / skeleton collection”? LOL
    That typical & laughable “holocaust” nonsense shot down repeatedly with ease here:

    What is the reality behind the Ahnenerbe’s “Jewish Skeleton Collection”?: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=112850

    Holocaust imposter, Joseph Hirt, lied about Auschwitz imprisonment and escape, historian says: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10431

    Faurisson’s Three Letters to Le Monde (1978-1979)
    By Robert Faurisson
    https://codoh.com/library/document/2910/?lang=en

    The Jewish Skeleton Museum: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12126

    Astonishing find RE: phosgene gassings in revisionism: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11665

    • Replies: @eah
    I've told you before about your über-obnoxious tone, aber du bist offensichtlich nicht lernfähig -- und natürlich hat Joseph Hirt absolut nichts mit August Hirt sogar eine 'Skeletsammlung' zu tun -- ?

    Your first link doesn't work.
  • @AnonFromTN
    I thought you are a serious person who deserves an answer. My bad. Won’t happen again.

    Now here’s some more very serious business, the Nuremberg Show Trials:

    U.S. Senator Robert A. Taft:

    About this whole judgment there is the spirit of vengeance, and vengeance is seldom justice. The hanging of the eleven men convicted will be a blot on the American record which we will long regret. In these trials we have accepted the Russian idea of the purpose of trials — government policy and not justice — with little relation to Anglo-Saxon heritage. By clothing policy in the forms of legal procedure, we may discredit the whole idea of justice in Europe for years to come.
    – Delivered at Kenyon College, Ohio, Oct. 5, 1946. Vital Speeches of the Day, Nov. 1, 1946, p. 47.

    S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas:

    I thought at the time and still think that the Nuremberg trials were unprincipled. Law was created ex post facto to suit the passion and clamor of the time.
    – H. K. Thompson and H. Strutz, eds., Dönitz at Nuremberg: A Reappraisal (IHR, 1983), p. 196.

    Edgar N. Eisenhower, American Attorney, brother of President Dwight D. Eisenhower:

    I think the Nuremberg trials are a black page in the history of the world…I discussed the legality of these trials with some of the lawyers and some of the judges who participated therein. They did not attempt to justify their action on any legal ground, but rested their position on the fact that in their opinion, the parties convicted were guilty…This action is contrary to the fundamental laws under which this country has lived for many hundreds of years, and I think cannot be justified by any line of reasoning. I think the Israeli trial of Adolf Eichmann is exactly in the same category as the Nuremberg trials. As a lawyer, it has always been my view that a crime must be defined before you can be guilty of committing it. That has not occurred in either of the trials I refer to herein.
    – Thompson, and Strutz ed., p.168

    George B. Fowler, Ph.D., Professor of History, University of Pittsburgh:

    I shall always have doubts about the whole ‘War Crimes Trials,’ both in Germany and in Japan. I am unable to understand how one can try an officer for obeying orders or for doing his duty. It makes no difference what flag he fights under. To me, the War Crimes Trials of Nuremberg and elsewhere are one illustration of the greatest danger of our times: mass pressure based largely on little information and perilously close to mass hysteria.
    – Thompson, and Strutz ed., p. 111

    Rear Admiral, U.S.N. Dan V. Gallery:

    This kangaroo court at Nuremburg was officially known as the ‘International Military Tribunal.’ That name is a libel on the military profession. The tribunal was not a military one in any sense. The only military men among the judges were the Russians…. At Nuremberg, mankind and our present civilization were on trial, with men whose own hands were bloody sitting on the judges’ seats. One of the judges came from the country which committed the Katyn Forest massacre and produced an array of witnesses to swear at Nuremberg that the Germans had done it.
    – Thompson, and Strutz ed., pp.XXI-XXII

    Cheers.

  •   It is just a coincidence, but the initials NNT are best known to me as Numbers Needed to Treat. This is a measure of the numbers of patients you need to give a drug to in order to get one cure. For example, an NNT of 5 means that you have to treat five...
  • @jester
    I have to agree with the MAddaugh. You are right, no CEO is forced into the job but these fellows cannot stand anonymity. Hence whether you want to admit it or not, they jump to the tune of shareholders, the Government, their employees and the public. Witness a CEO earning $85M a year pulling a brand because 10% of a minority population being offended. When these fellows finally retire they are lost because no one gives a damn what they think or feel. The power they had was, they find out, an illusion. Even their wifes and kids can barely stand them.

    Secondly, while they make a lot of money, they spend all their lives working and when they go on "holiday" they are still working. The man with $100 in his pocket can chill in a restaurant with his family and friends. The CEO can chill in a restaurant with $10,000 but he has to keep careful watch on his guests. You never know what is going on in the mind of all the envious toadies eating your food and laughing with your corny jokes. That is power ??

    "Without corporations most people would have no retirements or most of the goods & services they want & need."

    Perhaps so but again the world is rife with corporations who abscond with the pensions. Any thinking man should provide for his own pension rather than trust his future in the hands of others. My parents and grandparents did it ! Your great grandparent did the same. Pensions are a relatively new thing given the time man has been on this earth.

    And as for provision of goods and services how much do we need. Man lived for thousands of years without large scale manufacturing. How many clothes do we need ? How many cell phones ? How many cars ? The fact of the matter is that most of the goods and services provided serve not the customer but the corporation. When a man pays $1200 for a cell phone Mr Cook at Apple thanks him profusely even though the fellows antique Samsung phone that cost $25 back in the day works perfectly well.

    Our grandparents, at least mine were slaves to no one in the sense. First they worked for others until they got the capital to start their own businesses. Even if they had to continue all their lives as employees they would have had the money to walk away from any job they had. The fact is anyone could do the same. However people today spend and spend meaning that they MUST do as they are told or else. THAT my friend is slavery.

    There is nothing wrong with working for somebody. What is wrong is when you have no savings and must kow tow to the boss, unreasonable customers, moron co workers etc.

    That is the situation many people find themselves in. They must have the most and the best of everything they want and little of what they need. That is why we have the corporate subservience we have with I might point out, a horrendous amount of mental problems in the workplace.

    You would be surprised how many CEOs there are who crave a simple life bt are unable to deal with the anonymity.

    You need to think more deeply Wally. We live in a complex world and your thought processes are somewhat superficial.

    Like all delusional Marxists you ignore:

    – Those share holders, which anyone can become, can fire their CEOs anytime they wish
    – Those same shareholders approve of CEO’s salary.
    – There are problems in all workplaces, always will be, it’s the nature of the human condition.
    – Investments in those same corporations provide retirements that previous generations of workers could only dream of.
    – Those same corporations provide goods and services that make workers live easier.

    – Your grandparents certainly were “slaves” / beholden to others.
    As you admit: “They worked for others”, hence in your mind, they were slaves” to those “others”.
    And the money that made they put where? A bank, that’s where. LOL. Now that’s a corporation with a CEO.

    – People who over spend can only blame themselves. If they are “slaves”, they are so to their own foolishness. It’s their on fault and no one else’s, aka: personal responsibility.

    On the whole you’re just mindlessly using typical juvenile, uninformed, leftist strawman arguments because you are ignorant of reality. I suggest you remove your self from your Disneyland, the world is not the superficial fantasy you imagine.

    Another Marxist utopian bites the dust.

    • Replies: @jester
    Judging your intellect from your writing I doubt you ever held a position higher than scabbing cigarette butts from the parking lot. You sound really ignorant like a red neck from the most remote backwoods.

    Your logic is all over the place.

    What you have written exists is utter nonsense and not in the real corporate world.

    And delusional marxists existing in a capitalist world. Listen to what you are saying and writing. It makes for sheer drivel !

    For example, anyone can become a shareholder I agree. But Wally the commentator who buys 100 shares has no say in how the business is run. You, as a mickey mouse investor have no power ! The big shareholders have the say and generally the CEO and his friends ARE the big shareholders or control the holding company with the large shareholdings.

    Shareholders approve the CEO salary ? Rarely...the CEO also owns large blocks of shares or his close associates do. And if any company wants a particular CEO they must approve what the man wants. Proof: CEO salaries increased 1000% while the wages of the average worker remained stagnant or declined. What approval are you talking about here ?

    Investments in those same corporations provide retirements that previous generations of workers could only dream of.

     
    What investments ? The average american lives paycheck to paycheck. To have such a retirement you would need a portfolio of $1M to draw down a mere $40K a year. before taxes The average person does not have enough money for a brake job on their car. Today's employees don't dream of any retirement. Just look around, many of them are still working to make ends meet.

    Finally, corporations exist to make a profit not to make anyone';s life easier. How do they do this ? By convincing buyers they must have their goods. Lets look at a company that produces shirts for example. One year stripes are in fashion, the next checks and the following year floral. Companies cater to a buyer's WANTS and in so doing make their lives HARDER because the buyer struggles to keep up with the fashion. Life for the American consumer is not easy because the advertising convinces them they are always behind the in thing. The poor fellow ends up with 50 shirts, all out of fashion from one year to the next when in fact there are just 7 days in the week and one is wash day !

    You can apply the same logic to any other product. Cell phones is a classic example with folks changing their phone every 6 months. How does Apple make their lives easier. Oh I know, the average nobody red neck like you can have call waiting, call conferencing, call forwarding, data, internet, camera, scheduler, email, voice mail and this and that app all for an extravagant amount per month plus a phone that will be "out" in six months. Check out the nearby apple store and look at the people buying the latest of what they do not need.

    Corporate CEOs don't give a shit about making anyone's life easier. If you believe that you need to stop drinking that moonshine and get out of the backwoods. Corporate CEOs care about Corporate CEOs

    Finally, I was a senior VP of Finance in a large multinational. What I have forgotten about the corporate world you have not and will never know and my salary was never dictated by the shareholders but by myself. They paid me what I demanded or they could find someone else. My level of expertise was rare. Unlike you there were hundreds of jobs and just me. With you there are hundreds of Wallies and just one job. My annual bonus I would bet was more than 10 years of your salary.

    Before you mouth off, you need to know what you are talking about. be logical and watch your grammar. You come across as ignorant, uninformed and uneducated !
  • @jester
    I have to agree with the MAddaugh. You are right, no CEO is forced into the job but these fellows cannot stand anonymity. Hence whether you want to admit it or not, they jump to the tune of shareholders, the Government, their employees and the public. Witness a CEO earning $85M a year pulling a brand because 10% of a minority population being offended. When these fellows finally retire they are lost because no one gives a damn what they think or feel. The power they had was, they find out, an illusion. Even their wifes and kids can barely stand them.

    Secondly, while they make a lot of money, they spend all their lives working and when they go on "holiday" they are still working. The man with $100 in his pocket can chill in a restaurant with his family and friends. The CEO can chill in a restaurant with $10,000 but he has to keep careful watch on his guests. You never know what is going on in the mind of all the envious toadies eating your food and laughing with your corny jokes. That is power ??

    "Without corporations most people would have no retirements or most of the goods & services they want & need."

    Perhaps so but again the world is rife with corporations who abscond with the pensions. Any thinking man should provide for his own pension rather than trust his future in the hands of others. My parents and grandparents did it ! Your great grandparent did the same. Pensions are a relatively new thing given the time man has been on this earth.

    And as for provision of goods and services how much do we need. Man lived for thousands of years without large scale manufacturing. How many clothes do we need ? How many cell phones ? How many cars ? The fact of the matter is that most of the goods and services provided serve not the customer but the corporation. When a man pays $1200 for a cell phone Mr Cook at Apple thanks him profusely even though the fellows antique Samsung phone that cost $25 back in the day works perfectly well.

    Our grandparents, at least mine were slaves to no one in the sense. First they worked for others until they got the capital to start their own businesses. Even if they had to continue all their lives as employees they would have had the money to walk away from any job they had. The fact is anyone could do the same. However people today spend and spend meaning that they MUST do as they are told or else. THAT my friend is slavery.

    There is nothing wrong with working for somebody. What is wrong is when you have no savings and must kow tow to the boss, unreasonable customers, moron co workers etc.

    That is the situation many people find themselves in. They must have the most and the best of everything they want and little of what they need. That is why we have the corporate subservience we have with I might point out, a horrendous amount of mental problems in the workplace.

    You would be surprised how many CEOs there are who crave a simple life bt are unable to deal with the anonymity.

    You need to think more deeply Wally. We live in a complex world and your thought processes are somewhat superficial.

    You would be surprised how many CEOs there are who crave a simple life bt are unable to deal with the anonymity.

    I’ve met plenty of CEOs and gotten to know enough of them to know that the vast majority of mid- and large-Company CEOs are sociopaths, and more than a few are outright psychopaths … FWIW, the DSM lumps both those types into one diagnosis of Antisocial Personality Disorder.

    • Agree: jester
    • LOL: Wally
  • @Брат
    > quotes Margaret Thatcher
    The woman who wrecked blue collar Britain wants to lecture people on productivity lmfao.

    Except she didn’t.

    Outsourcing jobs, massive ‘immigration’, and lazy ‘gimme for free’ Communists did.

    • Replies: @Брат
    Go read the latest unz article on Margaret Thatcher. Then cringe at your ignorance. I can help with that too.
  • “holocaust” debunking videos banned by YouTube:

    Chemistry of Auschwitz / Birkenau:




    The Crime of Questioning: .. Germar Rudolf




    The ‘6,000,000 Jews’ lie and the laughing Mexican:




    The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax:




    much more at:
    the CODOH Bitchute channel:
    https://www.bitchute.com/channel/lvlh76IW8FPZ/

  • schrub says: I recently heard a rather revealing story about Phillip Roth. In or 2015 or 2016 the committee that was to chose the winner of the Nobel Prize for literature came under intense pressure to award the prize to the then-ailing Roth since Nobel Prizes cannot be awarded after a recipient’s death. Besides the...
  • @Fran Taubman
    I could ask you the same thing, but you are the most incoherent writer on this post.

    What’s truly “incoherent” is your irrational belief in the impossible “holocau$t’ narrative.

    You should be over joyed to know that ‘6M’ of your brethren were not murdered, instead you fantasize that they were.

    As they say on the street: ‘That’s some sick shit’.

    Your bizarre, hapless debates on the subject can be found here: http://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Fran+Taubman

  •   It is just a coincidence, but the initials NNT are best known to me as Numbers Needed to Treat. This is a measure of the numbers of patients you need to give a drug to in order to get one cure. For example, an NNT of 5 means that you have to treat five...
  • @Anon
    Soviet socialism was a failure , we already know that . But would`t you say that we too , the USA-EU , are full like you say , of :

    " lazy, unproductive, power hungry Communist. " ??


    if people are unproductive and eat at the expense of others , they are thiefs too , there are many types of thiefs .

    If someone does not wants to work , he must not eat ( Saint Paul )

    Socialism / Communism has failed everywhere it has been tried. There are no exceptions.

    Indeed, the current trend of Communism in the EU & USA is faltering as well.
    As usual, it is not sustainable. Hence the growing desire by productive Europeans to leave the EU, the outcry by taxpayers in the US.

    So why do you say that those who invest for profit are “just a parasitic speculator he is just a thief”.

    Without profits there are no innovations, goods, & service we all want. There are no jobs.
    And ultimately there is nothing to pay for all the free stuff that the unproductive & lazy want.

    Profits only occur when the marketplace votes for the offered goods / services with it’s spending choices.

    • Replies: @Брат
    Socialism did not fail in Germany in the 30s. Afterall, Hitler called it the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party.
    And German was wildly succeeding and productive while the capitalist world nosedived into a depresssion. So much for socialism not working.
    Though the biggest factor isn't ideology; it's more about getting rid of jews and parasites. The Renaissance happened at a time when jews were kicked out of northern Italy. Imagine my shock.
  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @AnonFromTN
    I thought you are a serious person who deserves an answer. My bad. Won’t happen again.

    That’s it? That’s the best you can do?
    That’s your response after dodging my numerous challenges? LOL

    Here’s a few more of the endless examples of nonsense from your “survivors / eyewitnesses”:

    [MORE]

    “survivor / eyewitness” Irene Zisblatt:

    She claimed that to hide her diamonds while at Auschwitz, she would swallow them and later defecate them out. She said she repeated that procedure every day one and a half years.

    “Survivor / eyewitness” Yankel Wiernik claimed:

    1200 people fit into a 7 X 7 m gas chamber, bodies of women were used for kindling, bodies burned on their own once lit, he saw a naked Jewish girl jump a 3m (9 ft.) high fence & shoot two guards, that 900,000 Jews were gassed..buried..exhumed..cremated & all traces disappeared, a Russian diesel tank engine was used for gassings.
    Wiernik also claimed he saw a naked Jewish girl leap over a three-meter (9 ft.) high barbed wire fence, wrench the rifle out of the hands of a pursuing guard, shoot two other guards before she was overpowered.

    in court, 3/46, “survivor / eyewitness” Charles Bendel said:

    groups of 1000 Jews where killed with Zyklon-B in a room measuring 10 meters long by 4 meters wide by 1.6 meters high. When asked, how 1000 people can possibly fit in to a room of 64 square meters, he answered, with ‘the German method’.

    Treblinka “survivor / eyewitness” Samuel Rajzman testified that:

    during the time he was in Treblinka, Jews were “suffocated to death” there with a machine that pumped air out of death chambers. {Rajzman text in: Yuri Suhl, ed., They Fought Back (New York: 1967), p. 130.}

    “survivor / eyewitness” R. Böck:

    “There was a blue haze after gassing with hydrocyanic acid” (which is colorless) – R. Böck, Frankfurt Public Prosecutor’s Office, Ref. 4 Js 444/59, pp. 6881f.

    a truthful statement for a change by Communist Jew, Bruno Baum, himself a member of the illegal ‘partisans’ / terrorists, boasted after the war:

    “The entire propaganda which started abroad, was made by us with the help of our Polish mates.” – Bruno Baum, »Wir funken aus der Hölle« in Deutsche Volkszeitung – Zentralorgan der KPD, Berlin 31.7.1945.; cf. B. Baum

  •   It is just a coincidence, but the initials NNT are best known to me as Numbers Needed to Treat. This is a measure of the numbers of patients you need to give a drug to in order to get one cure. For example, an NNT of 5 means that you have to treat five...
  • @Maddaugh
    Many of us will never be "rich" but becoming financially independent is all about common sense. Spend less than you earn and save the difference.

    Our grandparents did this without any books or any of the advice of the "experts".

    Today, people buy really expensive stuff they do not need not only for themselves but for their kids, relatives and others.

    All the diagrams and hypotheses in the world will not help you if you blow every paycheck.

    Ultimately, the man who can do as he pleases with $X has as much or more power than the CEO earning $1000X but who is a slave in the corporate world and a prisoner of his own ego.

    You started off well, but blew it with this silliness:

    “Ultimately, the man who can do as he pleases with $X has as much or more power than the CEO earning $1000X but who is a slave in the corporate world and a prisoner of his own ego.”

    As if the CEO is being forced into his job.

    Without corporations most people would have no retirements or most of the goods & services they want & need.

    And who were our grandparents ‘slaves’ to?

    Everybody works for somebody.

    • Replies: @jester
    I have to agree with the MAddaugh. You are right, no CEO is forced into the job but these fellows cannot stand anonymity. Hence whether you want to admit it or not, they jump to the tune of shareholders, the Government, their employees and the public. Witness a CEO earning $85M a year pulling a brand because 10% of a minority population being offended. When these fellows finally retire they are lost because no one gives a damn what they think or feel. The power they had was, they find out, an illusion. Even their wifes and kids can barely stand them.

    Secondly, while they make a lot of money, they spend all their lives working and when they go on "holiday" they are still working. The man with $100 in his pocket can chill in a restaurant with his family and friends. The CEO can chill in a restaurant with $10,000 but he has to keep careful watch on his guests. You never know what is going on in the mind of all the envious toadies eating your food and laughing with your corny jokes. That is power ??

    "Without corporations most people would have no retirements or most of the goods & services they want & need."

    Perhaps so but again the world is rife with corporations who abscond with the pensions. Any thinking man should provide for his own pension rather than trust his future in the hands of others. My parents and grandparents did it ! Your great grandparent did the same. Pensions are a relatively new thing given the time man has been on this earth.

    And as for provision of goods and services how much do we need. Man lived for thousands of years without large scale manufacturing. How many clothes do we need ? How many cell phones ? How many cars ? The fact of the matter is that most of the goods and services provided serve not the customer but the corporation. When a man pays $1200 for a cell phone Mr Cook at Apple thanks him profusely even though the fellows antique Samsung phone that cost $25 back in the day works perfectly well.

    Our grandparents, at least mine were slaves to no one in the sense. First they worked for others until they got the capital to start their own businesses. Even if they had to continue all their lives as employees they would have had the money to walk away from any job they had. The fact is anyone could do the same. However people today spend and spend meaning that they MUST do as they are told or else. THAT my friend is slavery.

    There is nothing wrong with working for somebody. What is wrong is when you have no savings and must kow tow to the boss, unreasonable customers, moron co workers etc.

    That is the situation many people find themselves in. They must have the most and the best of everything they want and little of what they need. That is why we have the corporate subservience we have with I might point out, a horrendous amount of mental problems in the workplace.

    You would be surprised how many CEOs there are who crave a simple life bt are unable to deal with the anonymity.

    You need to think more deeply Wally. We live in a complex world and your thought processes are somewhat superficial.
    , @Philip Owen
    Those of my colleagues who made it to the top of large corporations were very driven with wives who supported their ambition. However, if you are freelance or owner of a small business you are more of a free man. Customers are always a frustration. They never do it right but projects end.
  • @Anon
    if the " investor " invests in what is useful for the common welfare he desserves a lot of recognition , if the " investor " is just a parasitic speculator he is just a thief .

    “if the ” investor ” invests in what is useful for the common welfare he desserves a lot of recognition , if the ” investor ” is just a parasitic speculator he is just a thief”

    So says the lazy, unproductive, power hungry Communist.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Soviet socialism was a failure , we already know that . But would`t you say that we too , the USA-EU , are full like you say , of :

    " lazy, unproductive, power hungry Communist. " ??


    if people are unproductive and eat at the expense of others , they are thiefs too , there are many types of thiefs .

    If someone does not wants to work , he must not eat ( Saint Paul )
    , @Брат
    > quotes Margaret Thatcher
    The woman who wrecked blue collar Britain wants to lecture people on productivity lmfao.
    , @anonymous
    https://www.aish.com/jw/s/Margaret-Thatcher-and-the-Jews.html

    A new book explores her deep connection with the Jewish people.

    Four years ago, following the death of former UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, Robert Philpot, a British journalist, noticed an interesting pattern: almost every article noted that Thatcher was famous for her affinity with the Jewish community.

    Intrigued, Philpot decided to research Thatcher's relationship with the Jewish People. What he found out is detailed in his new book: Margaret Thatcher – the Honorary Jew.

    "If you ask most people who remember Thatcher what made her connect so strongly with the Jews,” Philpot said in an interview with Aish.com, “they will say: 'Well, she was the MP for Finchley." Thatcher's political career began in 1959 when she was elected Member of Parliament for Finchley, a constituency in north London with a large Jewish community.

    "It seemed plausible to people that Thatcher cared about Jewish concerns because her voters cared about them. But when I stated researching I found out that her strong affinity with the Jews predated her political career."
     
  • My mother would often tell me about the first time she ever saw a black person in the flesh. “I felt like I was watching an exotic animal, the kind you only read about in text books,” she would explain with wide-eyed recall about the ones in the Van Nuys neighborhood where my parents lived...
  • @lavoisier
    I think it was certainly part of the motivation.

    Slavery was evil.

    But the ungratefulness of far too many of the descendants of slaves makes one question the wisdom of this war and the sacrifice of those who fought the war.

    Slavery would have ended regardless.

    “Evils” never mentioned:

    – Slavery throughout the world the norm not the exception.
    ex.: The slaves that came to the US were simply acquired from the stocks of slaves owned by black Africans.
    African chiefs urged to apologise for slave trade / Nigerian civil rights group says tribal leaders’ ancestors sold people to slavers and should say sorry
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/nov/18/africans-apologise-slave-trade
    exc,: “African chiefs were the ones waging war on each other and capturing their own people and selling them. If anyone should apologise it should be the African chiefs. We still have those traitors here even today.””

    – The US North seized & sent runaway slaves backs to their owners.

    – Slavery in S. America continued much longer than slavery in the US.

    And, of course:

    “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

    – Abraham Lincoln

  • @Anonymous
    Blacks as beasts of burden? Seriously who thinks like this. I think your whole article may be a troll.

    “Blacks as beasts of burden? Seriously who thinks like this.?”

    Most people worldwide, that’s who.

    Nicolás Palacios Navarro is just the messenger.

    • Replies: @anonymous grazer
    Listen dude ostensibly it is about a family who have never seen that many blacks. I have read many old writers (who would nowdays be accused of racism) and have never seen a sentiment like that. My point was was that it sounded like parody. I can well believe the bad behaviour of blacks but I could also see how the post and comment may have been a troll.
    , @jester
    I rather have a donkey than a black as a beast of burden. At least the poor animal can think and works
  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @AnonFromTN
    Your link: https://www.jta.org/1999/08/02/default/russian-holocaust-survivors-receive-payments-from-swiss-fund
    Date: August 2, 1999 9:00 am

    From that link:
    “This is the first money most Russian survivors have received for their World War II-era suffering.”

    So, this site says that no one in the USSR received anything for these claims, true or spurious. Not in the first 8 years of RF, either, even if we take this “news” at face value.

    The source is Jewish Telegraphic Agency. I am sure that you, of all people, would find this source 100% honest, absolutely above reproach. LOL.

    Speaking of your laughable “survivors”, here’s what they typically say, an example of their lies … and you believe them. LOL

    “Mother and I used to get up at four in the morning [at Belsen], to avoid the queues of people waiting to use the shower block about and hour later. We undressed and showered our bodies with ice-cold water. The only soap we had was a barrel of honey-coloured liquid soap, manufactured out of human flesh from the bodies of people shot by the SS on the transports. Many times we wondered: ‘Could this be my brother, my sister, another relation?

    – Gena Turgel nee Goldfinger, I Light a Candle, London: Grafton, 1987, p. 102.

    Filip Mueller, whose laughable beststeller “Sonderbehandlung” Raul Hilberg quotes no less than 20 times as a source in his standard work about the “Holocaust” – described how he ate cake in a cyanide-saturated gas chamber

    Former inmate, Moshe Peer, recalled a miraculous escape from death as an eleven-year-old in the camp. In a 1993 interview with a Canadian newspaper, the French-born Peer claimed that he “was sent to the camp gas chamber at least six times…maybe children resist better, I don’t know.” Gazette, Montreal, Canada, August 5, 1993

    ‘eyewitness’ Arnold Friedman’s stated that he (and four others at the same time) ‘survived’ by breathing through a keyhole in the ‘gas chamber’ door at FLOSSENBERG.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    I thought you are a serious person who deserves an answer. My bad. Won’t happen again.
  • @AnonFromTN
    Your link: https://www.jta.org/1999/08/02/default/russian-holocaust-survivors-receive-payments-from-swiss-fund
    Date: August 2, 1999 9:00 am

    From that link:
    “This is the first money most Russian survivors have received for their World War II-era suffering.”

    So, this site says that no one in the USSR received anything for these claims, true or spurious. Not in the first 8 years of RF, either, even if we take this “news” at face value.

    The source is Jewish Telegraphic Agency. I am sure that you, of all people, would find this source 100% honest, absolutely above reproach. LOL.

    Of course now you change your story yet again.LOL.
    – You ask for ONE, I give you many.
    – And you shot yourself in the foot again, by lying when you said:
    “this site says that no one in the USSR received anything for these claims”.
    But an actual quote from the site says:
    “This is the first money most Russian survivors have received for their World War II-era suffering.”
    That’s a lot more than your “one” or your lie of “no one.
    Ouch again. LOL

    If Jews like you were smarter they would have conjured up a better, more believable story than their impossibly fake & stupid ‘6,000,000 & gas chambers’.

    to repeat:

    – Yet it is you who cannot show us the many millions of human remains that Jews like you claim exist in known locations. Many of which are claimed to be in Russia / USSR.

    – It is you and those like you who cannot tell us how the alleged ‘gas chambers’ supposedly worked, even the ‘steam chambers of Treblinka’ that were accepted as fact at Nuremberg.

    – Give us the names of just three of your ‘survivors / eyewitnesses’. Tell us in their own words what they claim, where, & when.
    We await.

    – Maybe you can also tell us why Jews have been promoting their fake “6,000,000 dead Jews” since at least 1823.

  • @AnonFromTN
    Name one resident of the USSR or RF who received any payment for being (or claiming to be) a Jew. Then we can continue this discussion. LOL.

    “Name one resident of the USSR or RF who received any payment for being (or claiming to be) a Jew. Then we can continue this discussion.”

    Here you go, dumsky, lot’s more than just “one”. You can even see them picking up their free, unearned money.

    RUSSIA: Russian “Survivors of the Holocaust” get Compensation

    Russian Holocaust survivors receive payments from Swiss fund: https://www.jta.org/1999/08/02/default/russian-holocaust-survivors-receive-payments-from-swiss-fund

    Jews from Russia even come the US where they get even more free, unearned cash:
    The Other Holocaust Survivors, Montgomery County is home to hundreds of Russian Jews
    https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-magazine/january-february-2016/the-other-holocaust-survivors/
    – much more:
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=russia+holocaust+survivors+payments&t=hi&ia=web
    Ouch!
    You also continue to dodge my challenges to you. We know why.

    • Agree: Theodore
    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    Your link: https://www.jta.org/1999/08/02/default/russian-holocaust-survivors-receive-payments-from-swiss-fund
    Date: August 2, 1999 9:00 am

    From that link:
    “This is the first money most Russian survivors have received for their World War II-era suffering.”

    So, this site says that no one in the USSR received anything for these claims, true or spurious. Not in the first 8 years of RF, either, even if we take this “news” at face value.

    The source is Jewish Telegraphic Agency. I am sure that you, of all people, would find this source 100% honest, absolutely above reproach. LOL.
  • @AnonFromTN
    Arguing only makes sense when your opponents have an open mind and honestly strive for the truth. Nobody is as blind as someone who refuses to see.

    No person in the USSR, real or pretended Jew, received any material benefits resulting from holocaust claims. In sharp contrast to the societies based on lies.

    Keep up your propaganda. I hope you are paid enough to push your “arguments” with a straight face.

    said:
    “No person in the USSR, real or pretended Jew, received any material benefits resulting from holocaust claims. In sharp contrast to the societies based on lies. ”

    – LOL. We see you dodged my post #194.
    including:
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+much+money+have+holocaust+survivors+received&t=hd&ia=web

    – We see you dodged the what L.K. actually posted in #203.

    said:
    “Keep up your propaganda. I hope you are paid enough to push your “arguments” with a straight face.”

    – Yet it is you who cannot show us the many millions of human remains that Jews like you claim exist in known locations. Many of which are claimed to be in Russia / USSR.

    – It is you and those like you who cannot tell us how the alleged ‘gas chambers’ supposedly worked, even the ‘steam chambers of Treblinka’ that were accepted as fact at Nuremberg.

    Another challenge:
    Give us the names of just three of your ‘survivors / eyewitnesses’. Tell us in their own words what they claim, where, & when.
    We await.

    – Maybe you can also tell us why Jews have been promoting their fake “6,000,000 dead Jews” since at least 1823.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    Name one resident of the USSR or RF who received any payment for being (or claiming to be) a Jew. Then we can continue this discussion. LOL.
  • @AnonFromTN
    You mean that Soviet and Russian media never lie? What a revelation!

    These “documents” bear clear signs of late forgery: they do not conform to the rules of those times. Soviets under Stalin, like Germans under Hitler, were the ultimate bureaucrats, and pretty ruthless. Minor variation from the approved form would have you shot in no time. LOL.

    Like I said, you are an imbecile, add to that extreme doses of intellectual dishonesty.

    Also, upthread, you lied about the holohoax being an exclusively “Western” racket or some nonsense of the sort…

    As a matter of fact, the holocaust fraud was manufactured mainly by Soviet propaganda.

    Stalinist atrocity propaganda against Germany served the Soviet regime then, for obvious reasons, and it continues to serve Russian interests today.

    In “The Non-Jewish Stake in the Holocaust Mythology – Why the Continued Success of a Failed Ideology?”, Paul Grubach writes about the various non-Jewish state players pushing this hoax, including the Soviets and also modern Russia. http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/2/1/1919

    … In their brutal war against National Socialist Germany, Stalinist Communism utilized the Holocaust mythology as an important propaganda weapon in order to blacken the image of their hated enemy. On December 19, 1942, a “special statement” was issued by the Soviet Bureau of Information from Moscow, which reported on the alleged extermination of the European Jews. It read in part: “The cannibalistic plan elaborated by Hitler in the beginning of the current year provides for the concentration before the end of 1942 in the east of Europe, chiefly in the territory of Poland, of about 4,000,000 Jews for the purpose of murdering them.”[56]

    There was, however, a certain ambiguity inherent in the Soviet promotion of the Holocaust ideology. Stalinist Communists promoted it because it served their interests in winning the war. Yet, at times they underplayed the claim that the Germans were attempting to exterminate the Jews, because they did not want to give credence to the National Socialist idea that Bolshevism and World Jewry were virtually identical.[57] As we shall see, ambiguity in regard to the Holocaust carries on to this very day in contemporary Russia. ….

    The Soviet Union has been consigned to the dustbin of history, but the promotion of the Holocaust ideology still serves the interests of the current Russian government, as they want to instill a sense of national pride in the Russian masses. Here is a statement of the Russian representative to the United Nations in regard to the 2007 United Nations Resolution condemning “Holocaust denial”: “[T]he Red Army had freed the Auschwitz death camp, one of the largest. The memory of the heroism of the Soviet soldiers and the many millions of victims in his country could never reconcile itself with those of ‘opportunistic political interest’ who sought to distort the significance of that history.”[60] Thus, the Holocaust mythology forms a cornerstone of Russian nationalism, as it casts the Russian people in the role of “heroic liberators” during WWII.

    UN Russian Federation representative Vitaly Churkin hinted that this is what is behind Russia’s support of the 2007 United Nations Resolution condemning “Holocaust denial”: “[M]ember States were bound to include in that condemnation attempts to revise the history of the Second World War and the merits of those who took up arms to fight the Nazis. Any attempt to make heroic the henchmen of fascism must be rejected.”[61]

    In an August 2009, Russian-Israeli statement, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and his Israeli counterpart, Shimon Peres, jointly declared: “We express our deep indignation at attempts to deny the great contribution that the Russian people and other peoples of the Soviet Union brought to the victory over Nazi Germany and also (attempts) to deny the Holocaust of European Jews…No kind of attempt to revise history can diminish the clear facts.”[62]

    The “Nazi gas chamber” mythology provides the Russian people with an exaggerated self-image as heroic liberators and freedom fighters. After all, so the propaganda line goes, they “saved the world” from the clutches of the “evil Germans” who were “attempting to exterminate” the “inferior races” who opposed them. Take away the Holocaust mythology, and what do we end up with?

    A repudiation of the Holocaust ideology would allow another reappraisal of the crimes, atrocities, genocide and oppression committed by the Stalinist regime. The end result of such historical revisionism would be the demolition of a pillar of Russian patriotic ideology…

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    Arguing only makes sense when your opponents have an open mind and honestly strive for the truth. Nobody is as blind as someone who refuses to see.

    No person in the USSR, real or pretended Jew, received any material benefits resulting from holocaust claims. In sharp contrast to the societies based on lies.

    Keep up your propaganda. I hope you are paid enough to push your “arguments” with a straight face.
  • My last three years in high school, I was in Northern Virginia. I hung out at Springfield Mall and Wakefield Recreation Center. Though I had lame handles and an erratic shot, I still managed to get into pickup games, and each time I hoisted up a brick, my buddy, Kelvin Nash, would holler, “Riceman!” I...
  • @Jacques Sheete

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see
     
    Long story short.: We typically see what we want to see.

    See?

    Keep on pretending, sucker.

    You cannot show us where it’s wrong.

  • @sb
    Reading this fine article again reminded me yet again that the deWesternisation of the Western World that is so prevalent today is about 99% due to American boasting
    The US for generations shouted out to the non white world that race and culture had nothing to do with the good life that whites seemed to have . "Anybody can be an American. Diversity trumps homogenuity . "
    ( Yes I realise that this had/has a lot to do with the "what are we going to do about the blacks" issue )

    The US ran a non stop campaign against colonisation and also against race based immigration in other settler nations from 1776 until maybe the 1960s . They also strongly opposed monarchical governments everywhere ( never mind the stability -revolution is good )

    If there was any justice it would be only fair that the so called huddled masses yearning to breathe free et al who have found themselves in other so called rich countries were all redirected to the US who started all this world without boundaries hell

    “… all redirected to the US who started all this world without boundaries hell …”

    Now exactly who were ‘those from the US who did the redirecting’?

  • @Saira Rao
    The sound of Death of White America is sweet and dulcet.
    American whites are implicit in this crime
    I have been told to "go back to where you came from" from the time I can remember. We all have. Donald Trump didn't invent this phrase.
    Trump is a fascist, cruel beyond all measure. He is a liar, a cheater, a racist, a rapist, and all things in between.
    He is also America.
    America hates poor people, Black people, brown people, gay people, trans people. Muslim people, Jewish people, disabled people. There are too many to count.
    White men should beg for forgiveness in front of Women of Color, You should repent by falling at our feet.
    OUR BROWN AND BLACK SONS WILL DOMINATE YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS.
    I AM AMAZED AT HOW HELPLESS "ALT RIGHT" IS AT THIS MOMENT.
    I LOVE WHENEVER I SEE A WHITE WOMAN DECIDING TO REMAIN CHILDLESS OR HAVING KIDS WITH A PERSON OF COLOR.
    THE EXTINCTION OF YOUR GENES FROM PLANET EARTH IS UNSTOPPABLE AND I LOVE THIS PHENOMENA.

    – Yeah boy, that must be why all those countless black & brown people are flooding into white majority USA, desperately trying to leave their black & brown shit holes.

    – Blacks & browns just keep on following whites. That certainly proves how terrible whites are.

    – Now try refuting this, unhinged comrade:

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see:

    [MORE]

    – massive murder rates
    – massive crime in general
    – degraded property
    – massive disease, especially STDs
    – massive drug & alcohol abuse
    – general filth, squalor
    – massive birthrates
    – inability / unwillingness to support their own children
    – massive youth pregnancies rates
    – massive school dropout rates
    – incredibly low IQs & test scores
    – violence as a way of life
    – fathers nowhere to be found
    • Replies: @Endeavor
    It's the bennies.
    , @Jacques Sheete

    In every instance where blacks & browns are in great numbers, and / or control the governments of cities, counties, regions, states, countries, & continents we see
     
    Long story short.: We typically see what we want to see.

    See?
  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @AnonFromTN
    Not one of the Jews I know benefited from what they said. You are forgetting that Holocau$t is a purely Western racket, it did not bring any dividends to anyone in the USSR.

    So now you back track from Babi Yar after being refuted on it
     
    You clearly mix me up with someone else. Coming from a voluntarily blind person, this is not surprising.

    Busted again.

    You tried to defend the laughable tales of Babi Yar in your comment #133, Oops.

  • @AnonFromTN
    Not one of the Jews I know benefited from what they said. You are forgetting that Holocau$t is a purely Western racket, it did not bring any dividends to anyone in the USSR.

    So now you back track from Babi Yar after being refuted on it
     
    You clearly mix me up with someone else. Coming from a voluntarily blind person, this is not surprising.

    You’re a blatant Zionist liar.

    Tons of cash is sent to fake “holocaust survivors”, every year, some who were not even in Europe in WWII, and now to their children & grandchildren.
    see:
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+much+money+have+holocaust+survivors+received&t=hd&ia=web

    And then there is fantasy theatre like this:

    There are over 100 “Holocaust” related “museums” in the US alone, all receive US taxpayer funding for an overwhelmingly highly paid Jew staff.

    Facts about one of them, the so called ‘US ‘Holocaust’ Memorial Museum:
    Tax exempt cash taken in by USHMM, aka: ‘Holocau$t’ Theme Park, for fiscal year 2016 which supports huge salaries for Jews only, with most of the remaining money going to Jews & Zionist organizations: $151,826,695.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/042717-IRS-Form-990-FY16.pdf
    US taxpayers money to the USHMM in the 2017 budget: 56,999,500.00 : https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20160209-fy17-pres-budget-request.pdf

    There is “that shitty little country”, many billions received every year from US taxpayers, Germany because of he fake “holocaust:
    The True Cost of Parasite Israel, Forced US taxpayers money to Israel goes far beyond the official numbers.: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-true-cost-of-israel/
    Zionist Billionaires & US taxpayers keep on paying for parasite Israel: http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/israels-money-machine/.
    There’s:
    – Laws which ban free speech on the impossible ‘holocaust’ claims.
    – Israel has representation in the US Govt, but no taxation, while Zionist parasites grab billion upon billions of taxpayer money every year.
    – Federal and state anti-discrimination laws for Jewish people
    – Hate speech prosecutions in favor of Jewish people, and other protected classes
    – Israeli agents not required to register as foreign agents in the US
    – US Federal Courts ignore 1st amendment separation of Judaism and state.
    – Relentless Jewish ‘diversity’ agitprop in TV and Radio and newspapers.
    – Holocaust victim cult propaganda paid for in public schools, colleges, museums, and mass media.
    – 97% of DHS homeland security grants go to Jew groups.

  • @Skeptikal
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/03/evidence-on-babi-yar-massacre-29-30.html

    So, Wally, STFU with your CODOH obsession.
    You are disgusting.
    I have said it before and I say it again:

    Learn to read German and you will find the "proofs" you say you cannot find.
    Or, just check out some of the hotos in Lawrence Rees, The Holocaust. Making it easy for you.

    – I quite understand German, thank you. The fact is that you’re utterly desperate, and way beneath me.

    – You mentioned the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust / CODOH, which is the most read Revisionist, “holocaust” debunking site in the world.
    And yes, I am “obsessive” about free speech.

    – There are numerous publication & videos which originate from CODOH,such as:
    Holocaust Handbooks, Documentaries, & Videos
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?main_page=1
    – Yawn. We’ve seen your laughable link before , nothing there provides proof for the fake Babi Yar claims. And a reminder, the content of that desperate link has been shredded piece by piece in this thread. We note that you have dodged them. I know, it’s not nice to confuse unstable Zionists with facts.

    – What photos in Lawrence Rees’ debunked book? Show them, we await.
    No doubt they’re as laughable as the one I posted in comment #3 of this thread.
    Oh ouch!

    Discredited shyster & Zionist Lawrence Rees undressed here:
    The Auschwitz “Gas Chamber” Illusion, By Nicholas Kollerstrom:
    https://codoh.com/library/document/684/?lang=en
    and:
    https://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=rees&fid%5B0%5D=2

    Yep, I still own you

  • @AnonFromTN
    I did not specifically investigate the issue of Babi Yar or other places, so I cannot judge the veracity of numbers in those locations. However, I know several Jews who had relatives remaining on Nazi-occupied territories and others evacuated to the parts of the USSR that were not occupied. In all cases not a single person remaining on occupied territories survived, whereas those evacuated lived and produced children.

    said:
    “I did not specifically investigate the issue of Babi Yar or other places, so I cannot judge the veracity of numbers in those locations. However, I know several Jews who had relatives remaining on Nazi-occupied territories and others evacuated to the parts of the USSR that were not occupied. In all cases not a single person remaining on occupied territories survived, whereas those evacuated lived and produced children.”

    – Why should anyone just believe what you say, make up, or were supposedly told by Jews who profit from the scam?

    – After all, you, nor those you supposedly heard such nonsense from, have any proof that they were murdered. None.

    – So now you back track from Babi Yar after being refuted on it. LOL

    Those that faithfully believe in the impossible “Holocau$t” story want / need to believe in it.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    Not one of the Jews I know benefited from what they said. You are forgetting that Holocau$t is a purely Western racket, it did not bring any dividends to anyone in the USSR.

    So now you back track from Babi Yar after being refuted on it
     
    You clearly mix me up with someone else. Coming from a voluntarily blind person, this is not surprising.
  • The Western public has been so poorly served, in recent years, by its supposed world-class media organisations that any semblance of a coherent narrative explaining world events and tying together their deeper, underlying, causes to one another, has almost completely disappeared from the programming of the major networks. More often than not, international affairs are...
  • @Agent76
    Absolutely, and schooling is the individual supply line of the drones aka patriots who will scarifice themselves for the Empire. This has been planned shortly after the Federal Reserve was founded and created.

    "Rebuilding America's Defenses" – A Summary Blueprint of the PNAC Plan for U.S. Global Hegemony

    Some people have compared it to Hitler's publication of Mein Kampf, which was ignored until after the war was over.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3249.htm

    The New American Century Part 1/10

    This film goes in detail through the untold history of The Project for the New American Century with tons of archival footage and connects it right into the present.

    https://youtu.be/U14cONsdsYQ

    said:
    “Some people have compared it to Hitler’s publication of Mein Kampf, which was ignored until after the war was over.”

    Really?
    Who?
    How was it “compared” and on what basis?

    • Replies: @Agent76
    I did not write the article or produce the video but I am sure with little effort there is a comment section on the youtube and in the article. I did not produce either but have researched both and shared it here with folks.
  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @Anonymous
    so if liquidation and special treatment mean something nasty, but its not gassing or shooting, what do they mean? because deportation or transfer to concentration camps didn't require euphamisms, and less transparent euphamisms for killing like "resettlement in the Eastern Territories" were just obviously not true since no Jew was ever resettled and even the deniers admit that now. so what do you think it refers to if its worse than a labor camp but not as bad as killing? and why do you think Nazis killing their self described racial enemies is a "stretch" ?

    everything revisionists do is a debate tactic ("i dont have to prove anything, you do") at best, and at worst a lie with fabricated memes that work on less intelligent readers (like wooden doors or auschwitz swimming pools). they have no narrative to defend. just because there's inconsistencies in accounts doesn't mean something didn't happen, in fact its more proof it happened, because real atrocity propaganda stories usually come from 1 source (like a government), and have no inconsistencies. despite all the misinformation (both deliberate and not) surrounding the holocaust the job of historians to confirm data by corroborating it and the idea that this could all have been planted by one or more parties is completely insane.

    they are not real revisionists because they are not offering an alternative account, they are propagandists, there's a difference. ask yourself why after all these decades they don't try to explain what happened to millions of Jews deported to Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, and Chelmno if they weren't killed. or the ones that do try make some weak argument about them being transit camps before this too falls apart and embarrasses their side further, so they just stick to attacking the official story, or just extolling the virtues of Nazi Germany in general.

    said:
    “… all these decades they don’t try to explain what happened to millions of Jews deported to Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, and Chelmno if they weren’t killed …”

    Now insert other foot.
    The facts is that your vile “Holocau$t Industry” says that at your mentioned alleged “pure extermination centers”, the human remains of millions exist, yet they do not.

    Alleged “ash pond” for an alleged 1.1M Jew remains at Auschwitz, however these alleged remains cannot be shown to exist.
    Alleged location of Treblinka mass graves / remains of 900,000 Jews according to Treblinka officials, no alleged remains exist.
    -The Los Angeles Coliseum holds 90,000 people. But, according to Jews, 900,000 Jews were allegedly murdered & buried at Treblinka, which would necessarily have left unimaginable amounts of human remains. In fact, Jews claim those remains still exist. That claim equals 10 times the Los Angeles Coliseum capacity shown here:
    Sobibor ‘monument’ supposedly over the remains of 250,000 Jew, actual remains of the alleged 250,000 cannot be shown.
    photo from ‘Surviving Treblinka’, by Samuel Willenberg.It is captioned: “crane lifting corpses destined for cremation”.
    Does anyone see any “corpses”?

    http://www.codoh.com

  • @Anonymous
    so if liquidation and special treatment mean something nasty, but its not gassing or shooting, what do they mean? because deportation or transfer to concentration camps didn't require euphamisms, and less transparent euphamisms for killing like "resettlement in the Eastern Territories" were just obviously not true since no Jew was ever resettled and even the deniers admit that now. so what do you think it refers to if its worse than a labor camp but not as bad as killing? and why do you think Nazis killing their self described racial enemies is a "stretch" ?

    everything revisionists do is a debate tactic ("i dont have to prove anything, you do") at best, and at worst a lie with fabricated memes that work on less intelligent readers (like wooden doors or auschwitz swimming pools). they have no narrative to defend. just because there's inconsistencies in accounts doesn't mean something didn't happen, in fact its more proof it happened, because real atrocity propaganda stories usually come from 1 source (like a government), and have no inconsistencies. despite all the misinformation (both deliberate and not) surrounding the holocaust the job of historians to confirm data by corroborating it and the idea that this could all have been planted by one or more parties is completely insane.

    they are not real revisionists because they are not offering an alternative account, they are propagandists, there's a difference. ask yourself why after all these decades they don't try to explain what happened to millions of Jews deported to Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec, and Chelmno if they weren't killed. or the ones that do try make some weak argument about them being transit camps before this too falls apart and embarrasses their side further, so they just stick to attacking the official story, or just extolling the virtues of Nazi Germany in general.

    It’s your Jews & their “historians” who claim to know exactly where Jews went. According to them they allegedly went to enormous mass graves and then they say they know the exact locations of these alleged enormous mass graves. Yet they, and obviously you, cannot show us these claimed immense human remains of many alleged millions.

    The claimed ‘6M Jews & 5M others”, 11,000,000, is a bit more than the population of the city of London, England. But you cannot show us the claimed remains to us. LOL

    “After the war, many Jews stayed in Europe and many others scattered throughout the world, settling in nearly sixty countries. So it was that in the late 1990s the teams put in charge by Steven Spielberg of gathering survivors’ testimonies had to go to nearly sixty different countries to record the said testimonies on video”
    https://robertfaurisson.blogspot.com/2009/03/alleged-holocaust-of-jews-is-proving.html

    IOW, Jews went where Jews are.

    – Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claimed that millions upon millions of people were murdered and dumped into enormous mass graves of known locations, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents. They would be laughed out of that court.

    recommended:
    INFLUX OF 3,000,000 JEWS; Tells Newspaper Executives in Germany That Refugees Have Created Grave Problem, JUNE 24, 1946:
    https://forum.codoh.com/download/file.php?id=2160
    https://archive.is/Jw6EM
    – ‘J. Graf and the illogical canard: ‘Where did Jews go then?’ / & more’: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8272
    WJC’s Stephen Wise said 1,250,000 – 1,500,000 Polish Jews homeless in Europe, outside of Poland, & alive after WWII: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10191
    Jews evacuated to USSR during war : https://archive.is/jA9iI
    and:
    more Jews evacuated to USSR during war:
    https://www.jta.org/1944/02/23/archive/german-lauds-russia-for-joining-intergovernmental-committee-for-refugees
    exc.:
    “Since the outbreak of the war hundreds of thousands of Jews from Poland, Rumania and the Baltic countries have been given shelter in the U.S.S.R., and many of them were permitted to pass through Russia en route to the United States and to Palestine.”
    The Deportation of Hungarian Jews from May to July 1944, by Carlo Mattogno:
    https://codoh.com/library/document/357/?lang=en
    Most of them were transferred OUT of labor site Auschwitz, none were gassed, ever.
    and:
    http://juergen-graf.vho.org/articles/hungarian-holocaust-debate.html

    – video: Juergen Graf : The Fate of Unregistered Auschwitz Inmates
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/MaeJJa_0VvE/

  • My mother would often tell me about the first time she ever saw a black person in the flesh. “I felt like I was watching an exotic animal, the kind you only read about in text books,” she would explain with wide-eyed recall about the ones in the Van Nuys neighborhood where my parents lived...
  • @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    My references to Hitler Youth and Hannah Arendt were meant to be tongue-in-cheek.

    Thanks.

    Nice to get clarity.

  • @Poupon Marx
    Take a look at this photo, and it will expose and explain volumes of words. See the Northern Europeans superior, Aryan, blond, blue eyed, honey colored hair people? See the young girls (none dare wear a dress), with their parents and elders signaling to the world what morally superior people they are? Notice the clean streets, the flower boxes hung from the windows, the general order and esthetic of living and working spaces.

    https://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/headline/thumbs/refugees_welcome_dublin.jpg

    http://2xkcvt35vyxycuy7x23e0em1a5g.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Refugees-Welcome-Dortmund-source-africasacountry.jpg

    https://www.telesurtv.net/__export/1441036474571/sites/telesur/img/multimedia/2015/08/31/refugees_welcome_europe_football_soccer_6.jpg

    They have no minds or thoughts of their own. Destructive thoughts are not imposed from WITHOUT, but their inner cognition, reasoning, set of axioms, operating theorem have been REPROGRAMMED AND REPLACED from without. They are zombies and don't even have an idea of who and what they are thinking. There is a term called a "dumb terminal". This is a display only that receives the operation system and data from a central server and allows only elemental inputs from such terminals. Obviously, and tragically and terminally, these folks are not system analysts or programmers. They are receivers of intelligence and instructions.

    We need to change ourselves FROM WITHIN TO SURVIVE. Whites are deeply defective to have allowed and abetted this plague and pandemic of ethnic destruction.

    “Destructive thoughts are not imposed from WITHOUT, but their inner cognition, reasoning, set of axioms, operating theorem have been REPROGRAMMED AND REPLACED from without.”

    All achieved by the mandated, thoroughly fake, & impossible “holocaust” propaganda.

    I now it, you know it, we all now it.

    • Agree: Poupon Marx
  • @Rogue
    Sure, I always treat individuals with respect, and as human beings.

    Have had a couple of Black and Brown friends and numerous friendly acquaintances, so I'm well aware that many Black folks are friendly, intelligent, hard working etc.

    But I suspect we all tend to lump whole races together into general categories. Mostly negative categories if not related closely to us.

    Exceptions do prove the rule.

  • @Dan Hayes
    Senor Navarro:

    Welcome to the UR.

    You're a UR natural and will fit right in! Especially since you exemplify the Hispanics that Proprietor Ron is always raving about.

    BTW, may I ask how did you find the UR, or how did the UR find you?

    And your essay brings back fond memories of those published by American Renaissance on "How I Became A Race Realist".

    Indeed, his experiences are those of many.
    It’s well known & obvious that blacks are generally extremely racist, violent, and lacking in intelligence.

    But Navarro curiously said:

    “… or by not being gang-raped by a lusty band of veritable Hitlerjugend
    —It would be an understatement to say that I was unprepared for her reply, for like a nappy-haired Hannah Arendt taking apart an apron-bedecked Adolf Eichmann in a visor, she knew well that my explanation about following company protocol was merely a palsied attempt at justifying my crime.”

    Nicolás Palacios Navarro has come a long way in his awakening, but it appears he still clings to propaganda and tales of the impossible.

    But then he may have been just having a laugh.

    • Replies: @Nicolás Palacios Navarro
    My references to Hitler Youth and Hannah Arendt were meant to be tongue-in-cheek.
    , @Curmudgeon

    or by not being gang-raped by a lusty band of veritable Hitlerjugend
     
    I read this as the hoax being blown out of proportion (emphasis on not), and the prosecutor swallowing Mangam's story whole to the point of having to resign.
    The Hitlerjungend, I took as referring to a players email about "killing strippers and skinning them", which is, obviously completely out of context, as I'm sure he was only referring to Jewish strippers suitable for lampshades.
  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @Anonymous
    oh okay, what can you deduce from this? does execution mean something else to you?

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nn1fcRaBBe8/WLG21Dw6PjI/AAAAAAAAA0A/SpRhAqYLyfk0so_jCe8fmdfDIlB31-r5gCLcB/s1600/00005.JPG

    "Einsatzgruppe C: Location Kiev, reports:

    Security police measures: Sonderkommando 4a has reached the total number of 51,000 executions. With the exception of the special action on 28 and 29 September in Kiev, which was supported by two commandos of Police Regiment South, the executions were carried out by the SK without any other help. Those executed were mostly Jews, a smaller part were political functionaries, saboteurs and plunderers."
     
    now you're probably going to frantically search the revisionist sites to see if anyone has hopefully declared this document to be fake as well. good luck :D

    On Soviet document forgery:

    The Soviet Union’s documented use of document forgeries, Active Measures: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12297
    includes these:

    Holocaust or Hoax? The Arguments, by Jürgen Graf, CHAPTER VIII: http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/hoh/chap8.html

    How the Soviets Manufactured ‘War Crime’ Documents (translation of USSR-54), by C.W.Porter: https://archive.is/k9Ere

    At the time, the US government even helped cover up the Soviet atrocity at Katyn: https://archive.is/qrANs

    Forged Documents at the IMT Nuremberg Trial: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=8635

    Proven Forgeries: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=6134

    Much more info on Soviet document forgeries:
    http://insidethecoldwar.org/sites/default/files/documents/Department%20of%20State%20Note%20Soviet%20Active%20Measures%20Focus%20on%20Forgeries%20April%201983.pdf
    mirror:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20181030204222/http://insidethecoldwar.org/sites/default/files/documents/Department%20of%20State%20Note%20Soviet%20Active%20Measures%20Focus%20on%20Forgeries%20April%201983.pdf

  • @AnonFromTN
    So, we are supposed to believe something that Nazi Germany says just because it said so? This is naïve as a minimum.
    Here is an unbiased purely criminal investigation of Katyn by a Canadian Grover Furr: https://www.amazon.com/Mystery-Katyn-Massacre-Evidence-Solution/dp/0692134255
    Evidence this guy collected suggests that you are wrong, to put it mildly.

    – So why shouldn’t verifiable facts from NS Germany be accepted any less than from any other government, country? After all, the lies are about them, not by them.

    – And do pay attention … it wasn’t just the ‘Nazis’ who verified the truth of Soviet responsibility for the Katyn massacres. As I said, have shown, and you ignored, there were many observers from Allied, neutral, and Axis countries who correctly noted Soviet culpability.

    – And of course there was the Soviet admission of guilt in 1989, not exactly “Nazi Germany”.

    – BTW, at the time, the US government helped cover up the Soviet atrocity at Katyn:
    https://archive.is/qrANs

    – And we do note that you cannot refute what I posted about it.
    again: Katyn facts: ‘Amtliches Material zum Massenmord von Katyn’: https://codoh.com/media/files/documents/documents/katyn_v.pdf

    – I suggest you are experiencing a rather serious case of cognitive dissonance.
    But hey, there’s hope for you. Remember, all Revisionists are former Believers like you.

    Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the laughable ‘holocaust’ storyline is the message.

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    What does “holocaust” have to do with Katyn? Also, as I said before, accused in Stalin’s show trials of late 1930s admitted their guilt. Is that admission proof that they were tried for real crimes? Is Stalin, then, as innocent as a newborn? LOL.
  • @Anonymous
    oh okay, what can you deduce from this? does execution mean something else to you?

    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nn1fcRaBBe8/WLG21Dw6PjI/AAAAAAAAA0A/SpRhAqYLyfk0so_jCe8fmdfDIlB31-r5gCLcB/s1600/00005.JPG

    "Einsatzgruppe C: Location Kiev, reports:

    Security police measures: Sonderkommando 4a has reached the total number of 51,000 executions. With the exception of the special action on 28 and 29 September in Kiev, which was supported by two commandos of Police Regiment South, the executions were carried out by the SK without any other help. Those executed were mostly Jews, a smaller part were political functionaries, saboteurs and plunderers."
     
    now you're probably going to frantically search the revisionist sites to see if anyone has hopefully declared this document to be fake as well. good luck :D

    Like I said:
    Widely available German typewriter & paper, written by anyone to say whatever is desired.
    That’s your best shot?
    Imagine trying that fake in a real / legit court of law where all you have is a typed piece of paper for an alleged immense mass murder of “51,000”. LOL
    No letterhead, no signatures, no provenance, and no alleged human remains.

    Per their alleged & desperate ‘Holocaust by Bullets’ the fraudulent ‘holocaust’ Industry now claims that ca. 2,000,000 Jews were shot by the Einsatzgruppen into huge pits, and the enormous mass graves & human remains are claimed to exist in specifically known places.
    So, is that:
    100 graves of 20,000?
    200 graves of 10,000?
    400 graves of 5,000?
    500 graves of 4,000?
    1000 graves of 2000?
    2000 graves of 1000?

    Imagine in a real / legit court of law where someone claims that millions of people were murdered and dumped into allegedly known mass graves, but then could not produce the claimed mass graves and the alleged contents. They would be laughed out of that court.

  • @Anonymous
    what are you talking about? Einsatzgruppen used the least amount of euphemisms.

    https://www.ns-archiv.de/krieg/sowjetunion/bialystok/363211-exekutionen.jpg

    and it was officers making reports, not the lower ranks. even that was clamped down on eventually.

    at the height of their power
     
    there is no reason why they shouldn't try to keep their crimes secret, especially when it came time for the quick deportation of massive amounts of European Jews for gassings (as opposed to being shot peacemeal in the USSR), not just to avoid a panic, but to avoid the political consequences of mass killings being discovered after they had so effectively used Katyn as a propaganda victory in 1943. That was the entire point of Sonderaktion 1005 which began the same year. and when they started losing, it became doubly important.

    and if everything is fake anyway, then why are you even discussing this? forget the Soviets, i'm sure any document discovered by the Western allies concerning the holocaust you would consider to be fake too, the Soviets didn't really care that much about dead Jews cause it distracted from dead Russians, or gentiles killed by the fascists in countries they "liberated" later. this is the mind of a delusional conspiracy theorist with an axe to grind, there's always a way to twist things. the same people that demand to see documented proof of a systematic policy to exterminate Jews (preferably signed by Adolf), which they would immediately decry as fake if it did turn up anyway :D

    That document is an obvious fake

    Another fake “Holocaust” document: ‘363,211 Jews executed’, etc.
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=11212

    Summary:

    It is an alleged report from Himmler to Hitler, on anti-partisan warfare, dated 29 December 1942. It can be referred to as “Meldung Nr. 51” (Rapport Nr. 51) or document NO-1128. In one place in this report, there is a claim that 363,211 Jews were killed in August-November 1942.

    – There are no “Top Secret” stamps whatsoever, despite something so incriminating

    – There is only a “typewritten” signature, meaning someone typed ‘H. Himmler’. There are some scribbles at the top right that are not Himmler’s signature, which would have been the easiest to forge.

    – The document is supposedly about “Partisanenkrieg” (guerrilla warfare) so why even mention Jewish executions? It also mentions the capture of “200 spades, shovels and saws” on the same page as hundreds of thousands of murdered jews

    – There are two documents, they are both “Copies”. One is prepared on what looks similar to Himmler’s typewriter, and the other with a typewriting using typeface like “Times New Roman” (suggesting Anglo/American)

    – There are usually 2 page numbers on each page, with one typed and another written at the bottom by Americans (not sure why)

    – The claim is that 363,211 Jews were killed in 4 months, or 91,000 per month, or 3,000 per day. Yet the SS and Ordnungs-und-Sicherheitspolizei are said to have lost a total of only 174 men killed in combat over the same period. It seems incredible

    – Porter suggests maybe “Juden evakuiert” was altered to “Juden executiert” and/or a few digits added to inflate the number. Most forgeries are actually legitimate documents with very minor changes (according to US congressional hearings on Soviet forgeries a la “Active Measures”)

    David Irving said:
    “It’s a document that raises my eyebrows. It’s a document I am unhappy about because it — it is so — it’s a rare document. It pokes out above the clouds of the other archives like Mount Kilimanjaro. You wonder what it’s doing there. If you work in the archives, you’re familiar with documents and you’re familiar with statistics and tables and suddenly you come across this document which is the only one of its kind containing this kind of statistics. […] and to have that item, ‘c) Jews executed’, inserted there almost as an afterthought, a figure that is twenty or thirty times as large as any other figure on the page.” (Source: http://www.ihr.org/books/kulaszka/35irving.html)

    • Agree: Wally
  • @Cyrano
    What are you trying to say? That the Holocaust doesn't qualify as a Grand Slam tournament? Next thing you know, you're going to say that they shouldn't have introduced the sudden death rule. But that way the tournament could have lasted forever - or until one of the participants dropped dead - from exhaustion.

    What I said, and it went over you head, was that your alleged ‘minor league’ Babi Yar of 34,000 murdered Jews” was once claimed to be as high as ‘300,000 murdered Jews’, which means it’s was claimed to have greater total than “death camp Sobibor” and it’s alleged “250,000 murdered Jews”.

    Therefore, your attempt to distract by saying it’s no big deal is laughable and at odds with the fake & impossible narrative you try defend.

    Sobibor ‘monument’ supposedly over the remains of 250,000 Jew, actual remains of the alleged 250,000 cannot be shown.

    • Replies: @Cyrano
    OMG, I can’t believe it. Do you really think that the Armenian genocide was a better event than the Holocaust? What kind of Nazi sympathizer are you? There is a reason why the Holocaust was called the German Open. Because it wasn’t exclusive only for the Jews. It was open to Roma, Slavs, German homosexuals, communists, all kind of victims. While the Armenian genocide was only for Armenians. I can go on like this forever, but this nonsense has to stop here.
  • @Anonymous
    Höss's 2.5 million number was something he said he got from Eichmann because he didn't take exact notes. Later in Polish custody he revised his number down to one very close to the official 1.1 million figure including a breakdown of where they were shipped from, again, corroborated later by historians. I'm sure you know this, you're just hoping I'm going to be impressed by your tired revisionist narratives, like this confusion and contradiction in casualty rates immediately after the war don't further prove that this was an organic event and not the delusional, fantastical top-down coordinated false flag that has been kept a total secret for decades. same thing with your Auschwitz plaque meme, this is just embarrassing for you, using crappy debunked propaganda from Twitter like this. it was Soviet propaganda, thats why it says 4 million people, not 4 million Jews. again, i can tell by your writing that you're well versed in this debate and know these arguments are crap used to fool less knowledgeable people yet you post them anyway. very telling

    said:
    “Later in Polish custody he revised his number down to one very close to the official 1.1 million figure including a breakdown of where they were shipped from, again, corroborated later by historians.”
    – Duh! Torture will make one say whatever is desired by the torturers.
    Holocaust HOAX is based almost entirely on TORTURE!: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8603

    – Corroborated? How? By Who? The guys below?

    From a long series compiled by Robert Faurisson.
    The ever changing fake Auschwitz numbers: https://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=faurisson&t=5631&sf=msgonly

    [MORE]

    9,000,000 persons
    according to the documentary film Nuit et Brouillard (Night and Fog, 1955), whose historical advisers were the historians Henri Michel and Olga Wormser-Migot.
    8,000,000 persons
    according to the French War Crime Research Office and the French War Crime Information Service (1945).
    7,000,000 persons
    according to Raphaël Feigelson (1945).
    6,000,000 Jews
    according to Tibère Kremer, writer of a foreword for Miklos Nyiszli (1951).
    5,000,000 to 5,500,000 persons
    according to Bernard Czardybon (1945), according to confessions attributed to some SS members and according to the newspaper Le Monde (1978) that added: “of whom 90% Jews”.
    4,500,000 persons
    according to Henryk Mandelbaum (1945).
    4,000,000 persons
    according to a Soviet document of which the Nuremberg tribunal took “judicial notice”. This figure was inscribed nineteen times, with a commentary in as many different languages, on the Auschwitz-Birkenau monument.
    It was repeated by many different authors, including the Polish historian Franciszek Piper, ex-curator of the Auschwitz Museum.
    Then, it was declared false in 1990 and replaced on the monument, in 1995, by the figure of 1,500,000 with the concurrence of the same F. Piper for whom this figure is a maximum, while the minimum figure is 1,100,000.
    According to Miriam Novitch (1967), of the 4,000,000 dead, 2,700,000 were Jewish.
    According to Rabbi Moshe Weiss (1991), more than 4,000,000 persons died at Auchwitz, of whom 3,000,000 were Jews.
    3,500,000 persons
    according to the Dictionnaire de la langue française published by Hachette (1991). According to Claude Lanzmann (1980), there were 3,500,000 gassed of whom 95% of Jews as well as many other deaths.
    3,000,000 persons
    until December 1st, 1943, according to a confession extorted from Rudolf Höss, ex-Commander of Auschwitz.
    3,000,000 Jews gassed
    according to David Susskind (1986) and according to Heritage, the most important Californian Jewish weekly (1993).
    2,500,000 persons
    according to Rudolf Vrba for the Eichmann trial (1961).
    2,000,000 to 4,000,000 (?)
    according to the historian Yehuda Bauer (1982).
    2,000,000 to 3,000,000 Jews killed as well as thousands of non-Jews
    according to a confession attributed to an SS named Pery Broad.
    2,000,000 to 2,500,000 persons killed
    according to a confession attributed to an SS physician, Dr. Friedrich Entress (1945).
    2,000,000 persons
    according to the historian Léon Poliakov (1951); according to the historian Georges Wellers (1973) and according to the woman historian Lucy Davidowicz (1975).
    1,600,000 persons
    according to the historian Yehuda Bauer (1989), of whom 1,352,980 Jews (the latter figure is from Georges Wellers, 1983).
    1,500,000 persons
    this figure, chosen by Lech Walesa, replaced, in 1995, on the Birkenau monument, the previous one of 4,000,000, withdrawn in 1990.
    1,471,595 persons
    of whom 1,352,980 Jews, according to the historian Georges Wellers (1983).
    1,250,000 persons or so
    of whom 1,000,000 Jews killed and more than 250,000 non-Jews dead
    , according to the historian Raul Hilberg.
    1,100,000 to 1,500,000 persons
    according to the historians Yisrael Gutman, Michael Berenbaum and Franciszek Piper (1994).
    1,000,000 persons
    according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1989) and the Dictionnaire des noms propres published by Hachette (1992).
    800,000 to 900,000 persons
    according to the historian Gerald Reitlinger (1953).
    775,000 to 800,000 persons
    according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1993), of whom 630,000 were gassed Jews.
    630,000 to 710,000 persons
    according to Jean-Claude Pressac (1994), of whom from 470,000 to 550,000 were gassed Jews.

    Please note that although in his “spontaneous” confession (with the help of “alcohol and the whip”, as he himself put it) camp Commandant Rudolf Hoess, the so-called “proud technician”, claimed 3.000.000, very few apparently take notice or believe him…

    And we therefore reach the last generation of figures (no pun intended) with Jean-Claude Pressac who pointed out a figure of 775.000 in 1993. However, he lowered the total number to 630.000 victims — only “470.000 to 550.000” of which Jews — in 1994.
    Of course, as soon as 08.01.1948, Welt im Film (British newsreel, nbr. 137) was indicating a figure of 300.000, but more recently it was revealed that the mortuary books (Sterbebücher) which had been kept during the war by the Auschwitz camp authorities exist at least from 27.07.1941 to 31.12.1943.
    Since the camp was opened in 20.05.1940 and evacuated in 18.01.1945, that period represents a little more than half the duration of the camp’s existence under German authority. The books, as released after more than 40 years, thanks in part to the Zundel trials of 1985 and 1988, appear to include approximately 69,000 names.
    Also consider the International Red Cross archives at Arolsen, always closed to revisionists.
    Can the archives of an organisation like the IRC be trusted, since neither individual “Holocaust scholars” nor the media appear to remotely know what they are talking about? Here is the figure then (17.08.1994):
    International Red Cross at Arolsen: 66.206
    Dept. of Holocaust investigations (Ref. nbr: 10824).<blockquote.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    LOL. so they tortured Höss to revise his number down? nice try FPB, you're really starting to lose your grip on reality. btw, when you use discredited fake stories like testicle crushing at Nuremberg (that wasn't even related to the Holocaust trials - note how the revisionists are not above using lies or misinformation themselves if it suits their cause, can't let the truth get in the way of a good meme ;) ) it only discredits you further.
  • @anonymous
    1. links are broken to the source docs supporting the notations on holocaustcontroversies.blogspot page. Anyone can type anything on the blogspot; proves very little.

    2. but this is curious:

    As has been proved, Jews played a pre-eminent part
     
    Repeated references to extensive damage caused by Jewish partisans.


    Allegedly 150,000 Jews living here. Verification of these statements has not been possible yet.
     
    reasonable statement

    1,600 arrests in the course of the first action, measures being evolved to check the entire Jewish population.
     
    reasonable statement

    Execution of at least 50,000 Jews planned. German Army welcomes measures and demands drastic procedure. Garrison commander advocates public execution of 20 Jews.
     
    The three parts of this statement don't fit together:

    "German army welcomes drastic procedure" and "Garrison commander advocates public execution of 20 Jews," reasonable, and fit together.
    But if "It is not known how many Jews live there," the "execution of 50,000 Jews is planned" -- where does that come from? Is it a number stated to equal the number of Germans whose housing was destroyed?

    Not enough information to validate the statements attributed to Germans -- could have been fabricated.

    This is interesting:

    "The Jews who were not yet apprehended as well as those who gradually returned from their flight to the city were in each case treated accordingly."
     
    Jews had some ability to move out of and into the city, and presumably to stay outside the city, and also to 'get lost' within the population, except that the non-Jewish natives were also pissed with the Jews.

    You dodged my challenges to you and then you cop out by claiming ‘broken links’, hilarious.
    And then we also have:
    Bodies at Babi Yar, John Gibbons Reporting: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7302
    which further demolishes your Zionist horseshit..

    Great stuff proving the Communists couldn’t keep their lies straight either, see text via CODOH link.
    http://oi45.tinypic.com/mh7m1d.jpg
    And not a single picture of what is claimed.

  • @Cyrano
    To me it’s quite obvious why there are not too many credible eye witnesses to Babi Yar massacre. The Nazis massacre of the Jews in WW2 is known as the “Final Solution” and it involved some 6 million victims.

    Judging by the number of victims at Babi Yar – “only” 34 thousand – obviously this event doesn’t qualify even as semi-final solution. I think it was the early rounds, pretty much like the tennis tournament at Wimbledon – who could be bothered to watch the early rounds with qualifiers and some low ranking players participating.

    So, basically what I am trying to say is: try think of the Holocaust as a Nazi style Wimbledon. The final solution was a big hit, the semi-finals and the quarter finals didn’t draw as big crowds, and the Babi Yar – which obviously happened in the early rounds – hardly drew any spectators at all.

    said:
    ” “only” 34 thousand – obviously this event doesn’t qualify even as semi-final solution.”

    Except that the liars can’t even keep their lies straight.

    Claimed victim numbers at Babi Yar according to different sources:

    300,000 __ Vitaly Korotych
    200,000 __ Vladimir Posner
    150,000 __ Speech during inauguration of memorial
    110,000 __ – 140,000 New York Times (Rudolf 2003a, p. 514)
    100,000 __ IMT (vol. 7, p. 556), Western Encyclopedias 236
    80,000 __ Soviet Commission
    70,000 __ Soviet Encyclopedias
    52,000 __ World Jewish Congress
    50,000 __ Genadi Udovenko
    38,000 __ Polish resistance
    33,771 __ Activity- and Situation Report No. 6
    30,000 __ Leni Yahil (Rudolf 2003a, p. 520)
    10,000 __ Grand Dictionnaire Encyclopédique Larousse
    3,000 __ Encyclopedia of Ukraine

    see: Lectures on the Holocaust—Controversial Issues Cross Examined
    http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=15
    PDF: http://holocausthandbooks.com/dl/15-loth.pdf%5B/quote%5D

    • Replies: @Cyrano
    What are you trying to say? That the Holocaust doesn't qualify as a Grand Slam tournament? Next thing you know, you're going to say that they shouldn't have introduced the sudden death rule. But that way the tournament could have lasted forever - or until one of the participants dropped dead - from exhaustion.
  • @Anonymous
    Holocaust denial, no matter how hard the 'revisionists' try to make it seem objective and intellectual, is at the same level as bone throwing or animal slaughter used to tell the future in ancient times. You will see what you want to see, believe what you want to believe.
    In the case of Babi Yar we have 1) tons of witness and perpetrator testimony 2) documents describing the killings 3) actual photos of the killing process and aftermath (extremely rare in terms of the Holocaust yet constantly demanded for by holocaust deniers - 'show me a picture of gassed jews' etc). The only reason there isn't a bunch of physical forensic evidence is that a dam burst and caused the 1961 Kurenivka mudslide which destroyed the site (as well as causing up to 1500 deaths and leading to criminal convictions of the engineers).
    The denier response? The testimonies must be fake, the documents are forged, the photos are fake too, and the dam bursting must have been part of the conspiracy as well, and all the entire Jewish population of Kiev faked their deaths. Zero proof required, just trust me its true cause i know it in my mind
    And in the cases where there are mass graves? Well, they must have been partisans executed in accordance to the laws of war :) And when the mass graves have babies and small children such as the one recently found with up to 1000 people near the Belorussisan city of Brest, they pull out their secret weapon "the Russians did it!" lol. Nevermind that it was the site of a documented liquidation action by Einzatsgruppen which we knew about for decades before.
    This is why no one takes these people seriously... mental gymnastics and ridiculous standards for "acceptable" evidence through which they give themselves a blank check to call any evidence they dont like as fake but anything they think helps them must be legit.
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/04/thats-why-it-is-denial-not-revisionism07.html
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/03/evidence-on-babi-yar-massacre-29-30.html

    1. What courts did they testify in and where can we see the verbatim text and cross examinations?
    I have have already shown ‘testimonies” to witchcraft. There was testimony that Jews were killed by German A-bombs; soap made from Jews, mass murdering steam chambers at Treblinka, on & on it goes. LOL

    2. Anyone with a German typewriter and some Official German stamps, which were captured aplenty, could and did type “documents” which said whatever they wanted them to say.
    ex.: There are “documents” and trials of Germans who were executed for the Katyn murders of thousands of Poles which are now known to have been done by the Soviets.
    That fact is that there were tons of fake “holocaust documents” made during WWII, and CODOH has shown & debunked them.

    3. I’ve seen no photos of the killing process, although I did post one hilarious fake in comment #3 which yu dodged, among other things. LOL Only liars need to make fake photos.

    – You desperately claim that the remains of 34,000 Jews disappeared in a laughable “mudslide” years ago, yet Jews recently went looking for the human remains that they claim still existed.
    They found nothing. LOL

    You’re in over your head.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    1. links are broken to the source docs supporting the notations on holocaustcontroversies.blogspot page. Anyone can type anything on the blogspot; proves very little.

    2. but this is curious:

    As has been proved, Jews played a pre-eminent part
     
    Repeated references to extensive damage caused by Jewish partisans.


    Allegedly 150,000 Jews living here. Verification of these statements has not been possible yet.
     
    reasonable statement

    1,600 arrests in the course of the first action, measures being evolved to check the entire Jewish population.
     
    reasonable statement

    Execution of at least 50,000 Jews planned. German Army welcomes measures and demands drastic procedure. Garrison commander advocates public execution of 20 Jews.
     
    The three parts of this statement don't fit together:

    "German army welcomes drastic procedure" and "Garrison commander advocates public execution of 20 Jews," reasonable, and fit together.
    But if "It is not known how many Jews live there," the "execution of 50,000 Jews is planned" -- where does that come from? Is it a number stated to equal the number of Germans whose housing was destroyed?

    Not enough information to validate the statements attributed to Germans -- could have been fabricated.

    This is interesting:

    "The Jews who were not yet apprehended as well as those who gradually returned from their flight to the city were in each case treated accordingly."
     
    Jews had some ability to move out of and into the city, and presumably to stay outside the city, and also to 'get lost' within the population, except that the non-Jewish natives were also pissed with the Jews.
  • @Carolyn Yeager

    And Eichmann even repeated that absurdity.
    At his 1961 trial Eicmann said that he saw ‘geysers of blood coming up from a field of recently buried Jews’.
     
    Are you implying with this that Eichmann was a Jew? If so, I would strongly disagree with that. What Eichmann said in Israeli custody at his trial is not indicative of the true mind of the man, a German, and should not be used as such.
    I hope you will clarify your meaning, Wally.

    No, I was not implying Eichmann as a Jew. Not sure where you got that from.

    What I confirmed was that he read & remembered what Wiesel laughably claimed, and then in his attempts at appeasement, recited what he hoped would help save his neck.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    Thanks, Wally. Glad you weren't.
  • @Kassandra
    Yes, had been strange. He did no deciphering, only radio communication analysis (since he spoke very well English). He did not mention whether the PLUTO issue was based on unencrypted radio communication using only the keyword (which might well be the case since a lot of common logistics had been necessary around the top secret network of pipelines), or whether he had been involved in the analysis of decrypted communications as well (unlikely). However, he told us the PLUTO story long before internet became a common resource (beginning of the nineties), I could crosscheck his tale only more than a decade later when I occasionally found documents describing the PLUTO project which had been crucial for the allied bridgehead in the Normandy (https://theromneymarsh.net/pluto). Today, even Wikipedia knows it, at that time when he told the story, it has been impossible to verify.
    The Halle tale from the US Timber Wolfs perspective is told at http://www.104infdiv.org/saale.htm. This story, however failes to mention that the Navy Admiral Felix von Luckner drank so much Whiskey during his visit that he was unable to deliver the conditions for sparing the planned bombing raid back to the German command. My friend who was stationed in Halle and a member of the loose resistance network in the German military, mentioned him in his tale as a liar claiming a decisive role in saving the city. The Lieser group which had contacts with the US Colonel Kelleher since April 11 formed a small platoon entering the Moritzburg without fight where the SS Commander Rathke resided and enforced his signing of the City Mayor proposal for the withdrawal from the central city areas at gunpoint. My friend described this scene in which he participated, and commented it with the words "we would have shot him immediately if he had not followed suit. We had been totally brutalised at that time". Rathke had refused in previous negotiations with the University and the Mayor to do so, and had ordered a major suicide counter attack. With the document, the Lieser group, the City Mayor and the police president could in a rush organise the whithdrawal and inform Kelleher, who took the city center without major problems next day.

    Babi Yar took place, and it had been a huge massaker.

    said:

    “Babi Yar took place, and it had been a huge massaker.
    Today, even Wikipedia knows it, at that time when he told the story, it has been impossible to verify.”
    .
    – Where is your proof on the aerial photo?

    – Found the claimed 34,000 Jew remains yet? Let us know when you do

    – Seriously? Laughable Zionist controlled Wikipedia?
    It’s amazing why anyone would cite Wikipedia as a reference for anything which Jews have a special interest in promoting. It’s rather like asking the wolf to guard the chicken coop.

    Zionist Wikipedia Editing Course
    : http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139189
    How Israel and Its Partisans Work to Censor the Internet: http://www.unz.com/article/how-israel-and-its-partisans-work-to-censor-the-internet/?highlight=wikipedia

    • Replies: @Kassandra
    Re Wikipadia - I did not refer to Babi Yar, but to PLUTO. Seems you intentionally missed my point to build a fake argument.
    , @Skeptikal
    http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2017/03/evidence-on-babi-yar-massacre-29-30.html

    So, Wally, STFU with your CODOH obsession.
    You are disgusting.
    I have said it before and I say it again:

    Learn to read German and you will find the "proofs" you say you cannot find.
    Or, just check out some of the hotos in Lawrence Rees, The Holocaust. Making it easy for you.
  • @Colin Wright
    'A good friend of mine...'

    Your good friend told you how he witnessed Babi Yar -- then performed a series of increasingly improbable feats of resistance culminating negotiating the surrender of an entire city (as a private!) in 1945.

    Your friend was almost certainly a fantasist -- which is probably why he was never promoted.

    As it happens, I'm convinced the Holocaust happened, Babi Yar is real, etc. However, your story does nothing to confirm the truth of that.

    said:

    “As it happens, I’m convinced the Holocaust happened, Babi Yar is real, etc. ”

    Based upon what?

  • @silviosilver
    Oh yeah dude, I'm sure exaggerating the extent of Nazi brutality was simply a huge impediment to advancement in the USSR.

    Why in the world would Kuznetsov make-up a story like this?
     
    Lol. People make up fake holocaust testimonies all the time, often admitting to it when they are eventually exposed. (Are you seriously unaware of this?)

    The “holocaust”:

    Believe it or go to jail.

  • @Carolyn Yeager
    Elie Wiesel was a strange character. He made fabulous statements like the "geysers of blood," which could not be taken seriously, while being taken seriously for most of what else he said. That's the odd but typical thing about the Jews from the Slav lands - they can believe contradictory things at the same time. Logic plays no part in their reckoning. They have wrongly been given credit for brilliance of mind when it is mostly just chutzpah. Elie Wiesel had chutzpah in spades. http://eliewieseltattoo.com

    Indeed, when speaking of the fake ‘extermination of 34,000 Jews’ at Babi Yar, for which massive remains are claimed, but are not there, Elie Wiesel said:

    “Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood spurted from it.”

    And Eichmann even repeated that absurdity.
    At his 1961 trial Eicmann said that he saw ‘geysers of blood coming up from a field of recently buried Jews’.

    “holocaust historian” Christopher Browning said of Eichmann:

    “through Lemberg, where he witnessed blood spouting in little geysers from a mass grave”

    much more:
    https://forum.codoh.com/search.php?keywords=geysers&fid%5B0%5D=2
    the so called ‘Holocaust’ / theatre of the absurd: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager

    And Eichmann even repeated that absurdity.
    At his 1961 trial Eicmann said that he saw ‘geysers of blood coming up from a field of recently buried Jews’.
     
    Are you implying with this that Eichmann was a Jew? If so, I would strongly disagree with that. What Eichmann said in Israeli custody at his trial is not indicative of the true mind of the man, a German, and should not be used as such.
    I hope you will clarify your meaning, Wally.
  • @Mr. Hack
    Why in the world would Kuznetsov make-up a story like this? He certainly created obstacles for his own advancement as a bourgeoining young soviet writer. He wasn't Jewish, but was born of a Russian father and Ukrainian mother. He was staunchly opposed to portraying the cataclysmic event as solely a Jewish ordeal, but one encompassing all of humanity. In his own words:

    They published an order for all the Jews in the city to gather in the vicinity of the freight yard with their belongings and valuables. Then they surrounded them and began shooting them. Countless Russians, Ukrainians, and other people, who had come to see their relatives and friends “off to the train,” died in the swarm. They didn’t shoot children but buried them alive, and didn’t finish off the wounded. The fresh earth over the mass graves was alive with movement. In the two years that followed, Russians, Ukrainians, Gypsies, and people of all nationalities were executed in Babyn Yar. The belief that Babyn Yar is an exclusively Jewish grave is wrong, and Yevtushenko portrayed only one aspect of Babyn Yar in his poem. It is an international grave. Nobody will ever determine how many and what nationalities are buried there, because 90% of the corpses were burned, their ashes scattered in ravines and fields.”
     
    https://day.kyiv.ua/en/article/history-and-i/defection-anatoly-kuznetsov

    – What, you wonder why people lie?

    – What, you wonder why a 12-14 year old boy would lie?

    – Why would people lie about witchcraft?

    – There are no human remains as alleged to see.

    former Einsatzgruppen Members Reject Bizarre Claims of Mass Shootings / Babi Yar, etc.:
    https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11396

  • The Jeffrey Epstein saga goes on even though convicted pedophile Epstein himself has been found hanged in his jail cell in Manhattan. One has to wonder how he managed to kill himself, if that is indeed the case, as he was reportedly on suicide watch at the prison and it is to be presumed that...
  • @iffen
    We the public will never know what Epstein was all about.

    Astute observation, which means of course that we can endlessly speculate with little fear of contradiction.

    Question: If I film a person having sex with an underage girl I have committed a major felony. How many people would use that film as blackmail knowing that its release will land him in prison?

    Actually, we do know what Epstein was all about. He was a sick pervert who housed girls for sex with prominent whites and Jews. The most logical and credible conspiracy theory is that Alan Dershowitz used his White House connections to make sure Epstein would not offer damaging testimony. It is already been verified that Russia has Kompromat on Trump, and that there is evidence that suggests he is involved in some way.

    • LOL: Wally
    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @annamaria
    Corvinus, you exploit your imagination whereas there are facts explaining "what Epstein was all about:" https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group-maxwells-mossad-spy-story-jeffrey-epstein-scandal/261172/

    Epstein appears to have ties to Israeli intelligence [Mossad] and has well-documented ties to influential Israeli politicians and the Mega Group [a nest of wealthy Israel-firsters with "deep ties to organized crime, specifically the organized crime network led by mobster Meyer Lansky" of JFK assassination fame].

    Perhaps the best illustration of how the connections between many of these players often meld together can be seen in Ronald Lauder: a Mega Group member, former member of the Reagan administration, long-time donor to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel’s Likud Party, as well as a long-time friend of Donald Trump and Roy Cohn.
     
    Ronald Lauder was a procurer of Austrian passport for Epstein. The procurement was an illegal operation.
    , @Mr. Anon

    It is already been verified that Russia has Kompromat on Trump, and that there is evidence that suggests he is involved in some way.
     
    Verified how? Where? By whom? Can you provide any evidence of this assertion?
    , @follyofwar
    Do you watch Rachel Maddow at night, Corvinus? It's always, and forever, all about those EVIL RUSSIANS who stole the election from Rachel's sainted Hillary. Trump secretly works for the Kremlin, and Putin is Hitler, right? Taking your theory a bit further, is that why Dershowitz, a lifelong liberal democrat, has been going on Fox since the election, defending Trump against all matter of charges lodged by his fellow democrats and the left-leaning other networks?
    , @PhysicistDave
    Corvinus wrote:

    It is already been verified that Russia has Kompromat on Trump...
     
    How do you know? Who verified it? And what is the Kompromat?

    I'm asking serious questions. Maybe you are right: the Donald is not exactly a choir boy!

    But, these are serious charges. How do you know?

    Details please.
  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • @Mr. Hack

    Anatoli Kuznetsov wrote a novel titled Babi Yar to document the alleged Babi Yar massacre. The author was born in Kiev on August 18, 1929.[20] Thus, he was only 12 years old when the alleged massacre of Jews at Babi Yar took place. This is a relatively young age and tends to lessen his credibility.
     
    Oh, I don't know. Often enough I think I have a better grasp of what I saw and did as a 12 year old than I do now (50 +). I remember owning and reading Kuznetsov's book in my 20's. I seem to remember that the book was not a complete eulogy dedicated to the memory of fallen Jews. The book clearly depicts that not only Jews died unceremoniously at this site, but many Roma and Ukrainians too.

    Reading the Wikipedia entry about the book, I immediately notice that Kuznetsov was 14 and not 12 when he experienced the horrors at Babyn Yar. His book was meticulously researched and included wads of documented first person accounts besides hiw own.

    said:
    “Reading the Wikipedia entry about the book, I immediately notice that Kuznetsov was 14 and not 12 when he experienced the horrors at Babyn Yar. His book was meticulously researched and included wads of documented first person accounts besides hiw own.”

    That’s it? That your proof?
    No human remains as alleged by Jews to see?

    I remind readers here that there were “wads of documented first person accounts” to witchcraft; in witness statements, testimony, and confessons in courts of law all over the world.

    Witchcraft Documents, Testimony, Eyewitnesses: http://salem.lib.virginia.edu/home.html

    • Replies: @Mr. Hack
    Why in the world would Kuznetsov make-up a story like this? He certainly created obstacles for his own advancement as a bourgeoining young soviet writer. He wasn't Jewish, but was born of a Russian father and Ukrainian mother. He was staunchly opposed to portraying the cataclysmic event as solely a Jewish ordeal, but one encompassing all of humanity. In his own words:

    They published an order for all the Jews in the city to gather in the vicinity of the freight yard with their belongings and valuables. Then they surrounded them and began shooting them. Countless Russians, Ukrainians, and other people, who had come to see their relatives and friends “off to the train,” died in the swarm. They didn’t shoot children but buried them alive, and didn’t finish off the wounded. The fresh earth over the mass graves was alive with movement. In the two years that followed, Russians, Ukrainians, Gypsies, and people of all nationalities were executed in Babyn Yar. The belief that Babyn Yar is an exclusively Jewish grave is wrong, and Yevtushenko portrayed only one aspect of Babyn Yar in his poem. It is an international grave. Nobody will ever determine how many and what nationalities are buried there, because 90% of the corpses were burned, their ashes scattered in ravines and fields.”
     
    https://day.kyiv.ua/en/article/history-and-i/defection-anatoly-kuznetsov
  • @Sean

    Hence, the mass graves and mass cremations attested to by witnesses at Babi Yar did not take place.
     
    Or it did take place, but it was the Soviets who did it,

    Here’s something that the Soviets did do, with plenty of proof, Katyn:

    https://codoh.com/media/files/documents/documents/katyn_v.pdf

    Katyn forest was the scene of the murder of thousands of Polish officers by the Soviet Union. It was falsely accepted into the Nuremberg records that it was the Germans who were responsible for this slaughter. There were ‘documents’, ‘eyewitnesses, ‘confessions’, executions of Germans; all of which allegedly attested to German guilt.

    A detailed, thorough, and verifiable forensic examination (1) of the site was done by the Germans during the war and clearly established Soviet guilt; but no, the Germans were said to be the guilty ones.

    In 1989 the communist Soviet government finally admitted responsibility.

    It should be noted that this detailed, verifiable forensic study by the Germans was the only such study done by the belligerents of WWII. The Allies never conducted any such study of Auschwitz, or the other alleged mass murder sites, or alleged mass graves.

    The pdf file is part of the massive amounts of information that the Germans made available on Katyn.
    (1)
    – corpses were shown ‘in situ’, corpses were exhumed, tagged, identified, the method of execution was clearly shown
    – the study was thoroughly photographed and documented; observers from Axis, Allied, and neutral countries were in attendance

    • Replies: @AnonFromTN
    So, we are supposed to believe something that Nazi Germany says just because it said so? This is naïve as a minimum.
    Here is an unbiased purely criminal investigation of Katyn by a Canadian Grover Furr: https://www.amazon.com/Mystery-Katyn-Massacre-Evidence-Solution/dp/0692134255
    Evidence this guy collected suggests that you are wrong, to put it mildly.
  • A good friend of mine had been ordered when staying overnight in Kiev on the way back to his unit at the front line to a guarding platoon fencing off the Baby Yar killing site. From his position on a hill top he had to wach the nauseating slaughter for three days until being released to continue to his unit at the front. That had been his Slaughterhouse-five moment, and he always had been proud of never being promoted, staying a private until the end of WWII, assuring his conviction that all officers are criminals. He never talked about this experience until short before his death.
    He was a very bright and sincere fellow, after his time at the Russin front (Gerd Fröbe has been his friend in the trenches), he has been relocated to an intelligence unit analysing allied radio communication (illegal Doping early warning friends in a resistance network on incoming bombing raids), and he deciffered the PLUTO keyword (Pipeline under the ocean) in 44, but his superiors dismissed his analysis as being technically impossible. In 45 he crossed the frontline to the advancing US army at Halle to negotiate a capitulation of Halle sparing it from the artillery shelling preparing the attack. Back in the city, he participated in forcing the SS Commander of the City by pointed gun to sign a withdrawal order to his units, and Halle capitulated, the medieaval center undamaged.
    Your armchair juggling with historical records for confirming your prejudices is a cringy exercise.

    • LOL: Alfred, Wally
    • Troll: Cowboy
    • Replies: @cuckoo
    A private in a guarding platoon in 1942, never promoted but relocated to intelligence unit instead--as an analyst of allied radio communication in 1944, then negotiator of Halle capitulation in 1945... Very strange career path indeed. BTW, radio signal analysis is not the same as deciphering activity and it requires a completely different set of abilities
    , @Johnny Walker Read
    Incessant ramblings here Kassandra. Any proof to go along with your grand fable?
    , @Colin Wright
    'A good friend of mine...'

    Your good friend told you how he witnessed Babi Yar -- then performed a series of increasingly improbable feats of resistance culminating negotiating the surrender of an entire city (as a private!) in 1945.

    Your friend was almost certainly a fantasist -- which is probably why he was never promoted.

    As it happens, I'm convinced the Holocaust happened, Babi Yar is real, etc. However, your story does nothing to confirm the truth of that.
    , @Twodees Partain
    What a coincidence. A friend of my sister's cat's grandmother claimed the same things, almost exactly. It's a small world, ain't it, Kassie?
    , @Jim in Jersey
    Friend of mine was Eva Braun’s hairstylist and she sometimes cut the fuhrer’s hair as well and she told me that Adolf was quite the ladies man and could tell a joke like no one else. Loads of fun at parties, those two.

    Anyone can tell a story on the internet. It’s so easy to lie. There’s no verification of anything, certainly no more than the forensics done to verify Babi Yar in the first place.
  • @Sean

    Hence, the mass graves and mass cremations attested to by witnesses at Babi Yar did not take place.
     
    Or it did take place, but it was the Soviets who did it,

    Proof would still be required.

    Or were you just making another of ‘the Russians did it’ jokes?

  • The Jeffrey Epstein saga goes on even though convicted pedophile Epstein himself has been found hanged in his jail cell in Manhattan. One has to wonder how he managed to kill himself, if that is indeed the case, as he was reportedly on suicide watch at the prison and it is to be presumed that...
  • @Vicky Weird
    The death of Epstein is being reported as an apparent suicide.

    Suicide is not an option for an inmate in jail under suicide watch. Those inmates are under 24 hour surveillance with no means to commit suicide.

    Reporters claiming Epstein committed suicide seem to be following orders from Jews in high places.

    There are 2 likely scenarios for what really happened –

    1. Epstein was murdered by order of Jews in high places.

    2. Epstein's death is fake and Epstein will live under a new identity.

    One thing is clear, the Jews Media will never reveal the whole truth about Epstein. Vicky Ward seems to be part of the controlled opposition media spin on the Epstein debacle.

    Amazing Polly has a good video on how Vicky Ward is hooked up with Epstein's pimpess Ghislaine Maxwell at the link below -

    Vicky Ward ties to Jeff Epstein -
    www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=192925
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXwXN8bNMI

    Vicky Ward is a guest on CNN sometimes which is more evidence that Ward shouldn't be trusted.

    Now they’re saying he was not under a ‘suicide watch’.

  • @Sean

    A man in a chair, with a clipboard by his side observing the prisoner/patient 24 hours constantly
     
    No one gets that for a extended period or their entire time in jail, which may be over a year.

    You need to understand the difference between being in jail awaiting trial and being a convict in prison. One has far more rights than the other. What you are describing is a short term thing because it requires the COs to give you your own cell, this being a very sought after commodity, one that a lot of prisoners will say anything to get. People on suicide watch kill themselves all the time.

    ‘…People on suicide watch kill themselves all the time.’

    There’s no connection between this attitude and your status as a defender of Israel. Why would there be?

    • Agree: BengaliCanadianDude
    • LOL: Ron Unz, Wally, Parfois1
    • Replies: @utu
    ‘…People on suicide watch kill themselves all the time.’ - Sean knows what he is talking about.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ben_Zygier
    Ben Zygier was an Australian-Israeli citizen who was a veteran of the Israel Defense Forces and allegedly an agent of Mossad. He was imprisoned in Ayalon Prison, Ramla, Israel and died in custody in 2010, reportedly by hanging himself in a maximum-security cell designed to be suicide-proof. Prisoner X, Mr. X and Mister X were placeholder names for him while he was being held in strict secrecy for unspecified crimes.
     

    Prisoner X was held at Unit 15 in Ayalon Prison, a special wing of the prison reserved for the most dangerous criminals. The cell in which he was held was a special isolation cell originally constructed to house Yigal Amir, the assassin of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. The cell is isolated from the rest of the wing through a door only prison staff can enter.

    According to a Haaretz report, the cell is 16 square meters in size, and includes a table, chair, bed, television, and several personal items. The cell bathroom stall and shower area is separated from the rest of the cell by a transparent door that hides the inmate's genitals, and the camera in the bathroom is not normally activated, but the bathroom has special monitoring system that works by identifying breathing and body movements. If no movement is detected after a certain period, the camera in the bathroom is activated and an alarm is raised. The showerhead is also flexible to prevent any suicide-by-hanging attempt by an inmate. During Zygier's stay there, the cell was under constant camera surveillance.[18]

    Prisoner X was isolated from the rest of the prison population, but he was allowed visits from his lawyers.[19] According to an article in The Australian, the Zygier family was told very little about the nature of Ben's activities, but they were satisfied that his legal rights were being upheld by Israeli authorities.[20]
     
    , @TKK
    Cliff Clavin, is that you?

    Dismissing someone’s comment by false equivalency simply because they have expressed an opinion about Israel that was not unhinged histrionics?

    Did you also give kids who rode the short bus wedgies?
  • One of the worst atrocities attributed to the Einsatzgruppen was the Babi Yar massacre, which allegedly occurred in a large ravine outside Kiev in the Ukraine. The allegation is that Einsatzgruppe C rounded up 33,771 Jews in Kiev and shot all of them over the period September 29-30, 1941.[1] German Reserve Police Battalion 45 and...
  • As if German soldiers were allowed to just take snapshots of the allegedly ‘top secret extermination of Jews’ , here we have, according to the Times of Israel, a obviously fake “photo” that is supposed to be “proof” of the alleged massacre of 34,000 Jews at Babi Yar.

    caption: Photo taken from the body of a dead German officer killed in Russia, showing a Nazi firing squad shooting Jews in the back as they sit beside their own mass grave, in Babi Yar, Kiev, 1942.

    No alleged human remains of millions upon millions to be seen in allegedly known locations, no ‘holocaust’.

    • Replies: @Carolyn Yeager
    The photo, captioned as taken at Babi Yar, 1942, shows the 'victims' dressed in heavy coats and hats, yet the storyline is that they were forced to undress and walk naked into the ravine/killing area. So this photo, rather than proving anything, disproves the event in question.
    , @VICB3
    Another Stalin Order #0428 photo? Horizon blanked out. Fuzzy details. And heavy coats in September? In Ukraine? When it's ~70 F., i.e. pleasantly warm?

    Another hole in the narrative.

    Just a thought.

    VicB3
  • The mentioned aerial photo enlargement:

    As stated, nothing happening that would necessarily be happening IF the story was factual.

    Here we have an an excavation which found nothing:
    Excavation Result: No Enormous Human Remains as Alleged at Babi Yar: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=11314
    much more:
    Alleged Bodies at Babi Yar, John Gibbons Reporting: https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7302
    also see:
    ‘What Happened at Babi Yar? Fact vs. Myth’
    Using air photos and wartime newspapers, Ukrainian writer MICHAEL NIKIFORUK attacks a few myths about a wartime atrocity.
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/BabiYar/Nikiforuk.html
    and:
    ‘Babi Yar: Critical Questions and Comments’: http://codoh.com/library/document/920/?lang=en

    Why do some people want 6M Jews to be dead? Revisionists bring them life affirming good news, 6M Jews were not murdered. Jews should be elated.