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      Time was when flying to Hong Kong was a really big thrill – or maybe scare would be a better term. Its old airport, Kai Tak, was right in the middle of bustling downtown Hong Kong. Flying into Kai Tak used up 11 of one’s 12 lives.

      The wide-bodied jumbo aircraft would drop down into a long fjord that was usually shrouded in fog or mist. The nervous passenger would see nothing but cloud. Suddenly, the aircraft would break out of the thick cloud cover right over the airport.

      To the left and right were apartment buildings festooned with drying laundry at the same height as one’s plane. The big 747 airliner landed with a huge thud and screaming tires right in front of another bunch of apartment buildings.

      Even for veteran air travelers like myself, this was a heart-stopping experience. Amazingly, I recall only one crash at Kai Tak, which we used to call ‘Suicide Airport.’ Still, it was like landing a jumbo-jet on New York’s Park Avenue. Not for the faint of heart.

      In 1998, Kai Tak was closed and replaced by the modern, spacious Chek Lap Kok, better known as Hong Kong International. It quickly became one of Asia’s principal aviation hubs.

      This week, Hong Kong airport was besieged and shut down by thousands of young local demonstrators protesting China’s attempt to impose a new extradition law on Hong Kong that would allow Beijing to arrest Hong Kong residents for ‘anti-state’ activities. The deal that Hong Kong’s former colonial Britain signed with China calls for ‘two-states, one nation,’ with considerable independence for the former island colony.

      But anyone who thinks China’s iron-fisted rulers will allow a scrap of paper to limit their influence over Hong Kong is dead wrong. For them, Hong Kong is as much a part of China as Shanghai. So, too, is Taiwan.

      The massive rioting in Hong Kong earlier this week set off alarm bells in Beijing, which runs an Orwellian police state on the mainland. China’s hardline leaders rightly fear that the fracas in Hong Kong could incite other uprisings across China. Everyone remembers the long, bloody Cultural Revolution of the 1970’s with its rampaging Red Guards.

      Perhaps more important, Chinese leaders study their nation’s history and draw lessons from it, unlike America’s history-free politicians. For the Americans, history is what was on Fox TV the week before.

      What Beijing really fears is another Taiping Rebellion. A nobody named Hong Xiuqan proclaimed himself the brother of Jesus and raised a vast peasant army to overthrow the ruling Manchu dynasty in Beijing. Brutal civil war raged from 1850-1864 in which up to 100 million are believed to have been killed or died of famine.

      If this sounds completely crazy, think of all the Republican sycophants that call President Trump the reincarnation of the ancient Hebrew Queen Esther or a ‘Christian warrior.’ Bizarre behavior and beliefs are universal.

      ORDER IT NOW

      China has warned the rioting Hong Kong students to cease their protests or face intervention by Beijing’s tough paramilitary police, which backs up the regular People’s Army. Chinese armed police and soldiers are massing just across the border in Shenzhen, a mere taxi ride from downtown Hong Kong.

      If the Hong Kong students are not wise, they risk winding up in China’s penal camps, the ‘laogai.’ Large numbers of Muslim Uighurs from Xinjiang have been locked away in China’s western laogai.

      The airport riots now appear over but continue in Hong Kong’s streets. If the People’s Police or Liberation Army do intervene in Hong Kong to impose China’s iron hand, they could spark another Tiananmen Square bloodbath. But once Beijing’s forces impose martial law on Hong Kong its days of autonomy will be over.

      The type of repression China imposed on Tibet and Muslim regions could be repeated in Hong Kong. There is absolutely nothing any of the world’s powers can do about it. China will then turn its attention to ‘renegade province’ Taiwan. Western politicians can huff and puff all they like but they are powerless to change the tide of events in Hong Kong.

      (Republished from EricMargolis.com by permission of author or representative)
       
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      1. Paul says:

        The people of Hong Kong reject its colonization by China. Hong Kong should be reunited with Britain so that the people of Hong Kong can live in freedom again.

      2. Yee says:

        “China’s attempt to impose a new extradition law on Hong Kong that would allow Beijing to arrest Hong Kong residents for ‘anti-state’ activities.”

        This is a lie.

        The extradition law is only for serious crimes that are defined as crime on both side. There’s no “anti-state” crime in HongKong. Treason, spy etc. are not crimes in HongKong, so you are perfectly free to spy for the USA even if the extradition law got passed. This is why the US station over 1000 “staff” in their consulate in HK.

        Meanwhile, the USA has extradition law with HongKong to extradite Edward Snowden. It was only by delaying paperwork that they let Snowden left.

        Isn’t that ironic? No wonder HongKonger are waving American flags… The US has more rights in HK than China does.

        Is there any honest person in the Western media, I wonder? The reporting of this HK protest are full of lies.

      3. Ma Laoshi says:

        For somebody who claims to have been to HK lots of times, it is the depth of ignorance to not know the phrase “One country, two systems” correctly; English has an official status there after all. Or is the error the translator’s? Some words matter: Hong Kong’s measure of autonomy is expressly not “two states”. No doubt China is authoritarian, but if it is an “Orwellian police state” then so are the US, Britain, and France–admittedly a plausible proposition.

        Kids who sing the US anthem and wave British colonial flags on Chinese soil will be viewed with disdain as dupes by most mainland Chinese–whose living standard is rapidly rising, as Hong Kong’s is falling. So not only do these blackshirt (who wants to be known as a blackshirt anyway) riots have little appeal in the mainland, when a crackdown comes these kids will be surprised how much they have alienated sensible HKers and western tourists with the violent behavior.

      4. Ma Laoshi says:
        @Paul

        … and have all the democratic rights they enjoyed under the Brits again, i.e., zero? It’s no accident that the appeal of this blackshirt movement is limited to people who’ve never known British colonial rule firsthand. How did it go again with the Right of Abode (an actual right)? One day the HKers woke up to the sound of “Sucks to be you to have trusted us, you never got it in writing”–much the same words Gorbachev got to hear from the West re: NATO expansion.

        • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
      5. Yee says:

        Paul,

        “Hong Kong should be reunited with Britain so that the people of Hong Kong can live in freedom again.”

        People of HongKong who want to be ruled by the Brits can go live in Britain…

        Not sure how “free” Britain is, though. Can you throw petro-bombs into police stations injuring several policemen and still be called “peaceful protesters” by the media in Britain? Can you bite off a policeman’s finger and be released on £100 bail?

        • Replies: @Realist
      6. DB Cooper says:
        @Paul

        Freedom my ass. In the run up to the handover apparently many of the British civil servants don’t want to go back to Britain so the last governor of Hong Kong Chris the fucking piece of shit Patten secretly and without fanfare passed a law that allow the right of abode in Hong Kong for these British civil servants. The law was written in such a way that it is still affecting Hong Kong today because of its side effects, and I am not talking about those British who choose to stay. You would never read about this in the MSM.

        What Hong Kong need urgently is to repeal this law because it is absolutely non-democratic.

      7. Republic says:

        The people of Hong Kong should have made massive protests before the 97 handover.
        China was much weaker then and a better deal could have been made by the UK.

        • Replies: @Anon
        , @The Alarmist
      8. Adûnâi says:

        Fun fact: Hong Kongers were not able to elect their government officials under the British rule. It was only after the coming of the CCP in 1997 that they got democracy.

        Fun fact: neither the USSR nor Yanukovich clamped down on the protesters. Where are they now?

        Fun fact: whenever the American, French or German police reign in an uprising with tear gas and water guns, it is their duty. Meanwhile, the Chinese are fearful to punish the gangsters waving the US flag!

        Also, it is incredible how Americans are mortally afraid to call out Africans and Mestizos, but racism against the Mongoloids is still perfectly fine. Of course, it is a relic from the Cold War, and of course, they mask it as anti-communism (commiephobia is a disease, too), but it is too virulent to be a mere ideological dispute.

        Commiephobia is a disease, too. No true Westerner can ever defend the USSR, DPRK or PRC. HBO’s Chernobyl’s blatant old lies faced a sea of monotone acceptance in the West.

      9. Anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
        @Paul

        Did you see the mass pro-China, anti-violence rally today? Almost half million people showed up in the rain.

      10. Anon[134] • Disclaimer says:
        @Republic

        No, UK should’ve given British citizenship to those who wanted to leave. Or you can ask your government grant those protesters political asylum. These people will be a great asset to your country.

        • Disagree: Republic
        • Replies: @anonymous
      11. People say being young is being innocent particularly when they disdain history. Hong Kong became a British Colony when UK opium came with gunboats. Let us join in and cheer these innocents who indulge in some random violence waving the union jack.

      12. Odd that this article contains no mention of Beijing’s suspicion that the US State Department and Western-backed NGOs are using the disaffected HK students to cobble together another one of their regime-change color revolutions, a la Ukraine and Venezuela.

        • Agree: animalogic
        • Replies: @Per/Norway
      13. @Buck Ransom

        not really, this is clearly a poorly written propaganda piece.

        • Replies: @FB
      14. @Adûnâi

        Also, it is incredible how Americans are mortally afraid to call out Africans and Mestizos, but racism against the Mongoloids is still perfectly fine.

        Yes, and that’s by design. Jews despise NE Asians just as much as they despise whites, and want both groups replaced. They’ve explicitly stated as much. How the WN wigger types still fail to understand this is beyond belief.

        And I don’t even particularly like China or the Chinese. The morons were useful tools of the Jews during WWII. Without them, the Jews may not have even won that war. So in a sense, they deserve what’s coming to them, similar to the Americans and British.

        But beggars can’t be choosers. In our modern world, China stands as the lone hope against a hellscape of total Jewish world domination over a soulless sludge of black and brown slaves.

        (Putin is too wishy-washy, and Japan and South Korea have already appeased their Jewish masters and will begin implementing mass immigration very soon.)

        • Replies: @anon
      15. Alistair says:

        Forgive my cynicism but I am a bit skeptical as to the timing of the up rising in Hong Kong. Though the public demands seem legitimate, but the timing and such level of dissent is certainly unprecedented – amid the trade war with the US, I wonder if John Bolton and Mike Pompeo with the help of CIA-MI6 hadn’t been working behind scene – fueling the uprising against the communist government of China. Forgive my cynicism but one could never know !!!

      16. U.S. Just stay out of fights we can’t possibly win.

        • Replies: @Realist
      17. People marching with American flags in Hong Kong = GOOD!
        People marching with American flags in Portland = DOUBLE-PLUS BAD!

      18. Let Beijing totally crush the globo-homo scum in Hong Kong.

        I respect real dissidents, but most HK troublemakers are tools of globo-homo West. They are traitors and deserve to face the firing squad.

        • Agree: MAOWASAYALI
        • Replies: @nsa
        , @Corvinus
      19. anon[339] • Disclaimer says:
        @Ghan-buri-Ghan

        > South Korea have already appeased their Jewish masters

        Funny things happen when you give up your indigenous faith and start worshiping a globalist Jewish Rabbi.

      20. Yee says:

        Priss Factor,

        “Let Beijing totally crush the globo-homo scum in HongKong.”

        That’s CIA’s plan….
        But no, I’m quite sure Beijing is not going to do that.

        Sun-Tzu said the worst art of war is to attack the city. Every Chinese knows it. ( 上兵伐谋,其次伐交,其次伐兵,其下攻城)

        • Replies: @animalogic
      21. @Paul

        I remember reading years ago that the Opium Wars by UK and US was still taught in their history classes.

      22. The deal that Hong Kong’s former colonial Britain signed with China calls for ‘two-states, one nation,’ with considerable independence for the former island colony.

        FYI: The correct wording is “One country, two systems”. But it is nothing more than a stated principle. It is similar to governmental policy, but I would argue that it is really just another empty Jewish slogan, like “Diversity is our strength” which, on the face of it, is ludicrous.

        From Wikipedia:

        “One country, two systems” is a constitutional principle formulated by Deng Xiaoping, the Paramount Leader of the People’s Republic of China (PRC), for the reunification of China during the early 1980s. He suggested that there would be only one China, but distinct Chinese regions such as Hong Kong and Macau could retain their own economic and administrative systems, while the rest of the PRC (or simply “China”) uses the socialism with Chinese characteristics system. Under the principle, each of the two regions could continue to have its own governmental system, legal, economic and financial affairs, including trade relations with foreign countries.

        There is no mention of “One country, two systems” in Hong Kong’s Basic Law aka Hong Kong’s mini-constitution, written by Jews and Chinese freemasons, by the way.

        In other words, the “One country, two systems” principle has no legal status or merit.

        Much of the problem is due to the CCP’s own idiocy in adopting the “One country, two systems” principle in the first place. It is utterly meaningless, but even if it was written down as law and had constitutionality, so what? as Geroge ‘Dubya’ Bush would say.

        Actually, here’s what President Bush thinks about the US Constitution: “Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It is just a Goddamn piece of paper”.

        Imagine if President Xi said the same thing about the “One country, two systems” principle… the Jewish MSM would just go apeshit.

        This article is borderline Jewish apeshit.

      23. @Yee

        My suspicion is — whether consciously or unconsciously — the HK protesters’ goal is to force Beijing to intervene as violently possible. Yes, they want another 1989 Tiananmen squ’. And the Martyrdom so implied.
        The West are consciously working for this goal (you can just smell the filthy presence of the NED)
        The more violently the mainlanders repress, the greater the propaganda victory for the US (& West, generally)

      24. Anon[134] • Disclaimer says:

        May we all stand in solidarity with the people of Hong Kong as they speak out for democracy, freedom from repression, and a world they long to see. – Hillary Clinton’s Tweet 7:06 AM – 13 Aug 2019

        When Hillary Clinton wants to bring democracy and freedom to you, watch out.

      25. Yee says:

        animalogic,

        “Yes, they want another 1989 Tiananmen squ’.
        … …
        The more violently the mainlanders repress, the greater the propaganda victory for the US (& West, generally)”

        Not just for a propaganda victory. The US would make it into a new cold war.

        That’s why I believe Beijing will not step in, because once it do, CIA would make sure it’s violent. Just takes a few sniper shots at the protesters… The Western media have all mobilized in ready to write tons of articles similar to this one.

        • Replies: @Curmudgeon
      26. Eric Margolis gives an excellent insight into events. The phenomenon of protests in Hong Kong is part of the hegemonic struggle between the US and China. Historically such struggles have always resulted in war: conflict between the two biggest global economies will be world war. And world war between nuclear powers will be nuclear war. No one sees the dangerous journey we are on, that it leads us to the dragon’s lair.
        https://www.ghostsofhistory.wordpress.com/

      27. @Paul

        Hong Kong should become a British colony again? Nut case. They did not choose to be the first time and the UK no longer has the means to take it.

      28. Realist says:
        @Yee

        Can you throw petro-bombs into police stations injuring several policemen and still be called “peaceful protesters” by the media in Britain?

        Sure if you are black or Muslim.

      29. Realist says:
        @Longfisher

        U.S. Just stay out of fights we can’t possibly win.

        That should have been the policy for the last 100 years.

        • Replies: @d dan
      30. @Republic

        The people of Hong Kong should have made massive protests before the 97 handover.
        China was much weaker then and a better deal could have been made by the UK.

        The UK was in no position to make any serious demands: They essentially lost their lease and had no real choice but to leave. The handover the Brits got allowed them to save face, and allowed the Chinese to save face by stretching out the inevitable killing of Hong Kong as an Asian Tiger. That this day came so late is testament to Chinese forebearance and pragmatism of the Chinese leadership, and the foolhardiness of the protesters to push an issue they were better off leaving alone.

        • Agree: Rabbitnexus
      31. d dan says:

        Thanks to the Hong Kong riots, I found out recently that Hong Kong is not only CIA headquarters in Asia, but also MI6 (UK intelligence agency) and many other western intelligence agencies headquarters too. It is the intelligence “market” center of the world – where spies sell, buy, exchange intelligence information, conduct counter-intelligence activities, spread rumors, …

        Of course, no official confirmation from any governments, not even China, is going to admit it. So, how do we know this is true? Consider the following evidences:

        1. When Snowden decided to defect, the first place he went was to bring his laptop full of classified info to Hong Kong. This enabled him to sell his info.

        2. US Consulate office has over 1000 registered personnel, more than the number of personnel in US Embassy in Beijing. Similar UK has over 700 people in Hong Kong. Considering Hong Kong only has 7 million people, (not even the top 10 cities in China), it is clear what these people are doing.

        3. Hong Kong does not have any extradition laws with China. That means CIA and other western agents do not fear being caught by Chinese government.

        Given the above facts, people should understand why the proposed extradition law with China is such a BIG deal to US and UK.

      32. d dan says:
        @Realist

        This should ALWAYS the policy for ANYONE.

        • Replies: @Realist
      33. nsa says:
        @Priss Factor

        “but most troublemakers are tools of the globo-homo West.”
        You think? “Dissidents” with absurdist talmud thumping names like JOSHUA Wong?

        Joshua fit the battle of Honglico
        Honglico, Honglico
        Joshua fit the battle of Honglico,
        The commies came tumbling down

        You may talk about men of Peking
        You may talk about men of Nepal
        But none like good old Joshua
        And the commies came tumbling down

        Up to the walls of Honglico
        With yankee flag dlawn in hand
        Go blow those holns clied Joshua
        The battle is in my hands

        What next? Elijah Wang? Miliam Chen? Jelemiah Liu? Caleb Huang?

        • LOL: MAOWASAYALI
        • Replies: @MAOWASAYALI
      34. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:

        Funny how the west views the Paris riots vs the HK riots. No one cares about how the Paris police brutally took down the protesters.

      35. anon19 says:

        So what is YOUR solution Mr. Margolis?

        (Will he EVER answer my questions?)

      36. @nsa

        It ain’t the first time (((they))) tried it.

        Eric Margolis:

        What Beijing really fears is another Taiping Rebellion. A nobody named Hong Xiuqan proclaimed himself the brother of Jesus and raised a vast peasant army to overthrow the ruling Manchu dynasty in Beijing. Brutal civil war raged from 1850-1864 in which up to 100 million are believed to have been killed or died of famine.

        From Wikipedia:

        In 1836, at the age of 22, Hong returned to Guangzhou to retake the imperial examinations.[15] While in Guangzhou, Hong heard Edwin Stevens, a foreign missionary, and his interpreter preaching about Christianity.[16] From them, Hong received a set of pamphlets entitled “Good Words for Exhorting the Age”, which were written by Liang Fa, Stevens’s assistant, and contained excerpts from the Bible along with homilies and other material prepared by Liang.[17] Supposedly, Hong only briefly looked over these pamphlets and did not pay much attention to them at the time.[2] Unsurprisingly, he again failed the imperial examinations, which had a pass rate of less than one percent.[18]

        Joshua Wong was born in Hong Kong on 13 October 1996, and was diagnosed with dyslexia in early childhood.[6][7] The son of middle-class couple Grace and Roger Wong,[8] Wong was raised as a Protestant Christian in the Lutheran tradition.[9][10] His social awareness stems from his father, a retired IT professional,[11] who often took him as a child to visit the underprivileged.[12][13]

        Wong studied at the United Christian College (Kowloon East),[14] a private Christian middle school in Kowloon, and developed organisational and speaking skills through involvement in church groups.[15]

      37. Jason Liu says:

        Comparisons with Tiananmen Square are a bit of a stretch, but comparisons with the Taiping Rebellion is completely retarded

        • Replies: @MAOWASAYALI
      38. KK8888 says:

        China won’t send in the PLA. The CPC is too smart to take the bait.

        They’ve already responded with the announcement of upgrading Shenzhen to become a world class city (Shenzhen is already the premiere technology hub in China). They will let Shenzhen compete directly with Hong Kong (which up to now Shenzhen was not allowed to) and take over key functions of Hong Kong, including finance and shipping. They’ll encourage the educated in Hong Kong to find opportunities in Shenzhen and provide those who choose to migrate to the mainland citizenship and tax incentives. As opportunities in Shenzhen become huge while lucrative jobs leave Hong Kong, Hong Kong will experience significant brain drain. In Shenzhen, those from Hong Kong who marry locals will end up having mainland children and fully assimilated. Those who remain in Hong Kong will have to live with the city being downgraded to a second/third tier city. Hong Kong will ultimately depend on tourism to survive, a Disneyland with trams and rickshaws as well as Indian tailors that allow tourists to fully experience what Western colonialism was once like. When the 50 year one country two systems end, Hong Kong will be incorporated into Shenzhen to become the tourist district of Shenzhen.

      39. anon[122] • Disclaimer says:

        UK has been turned into a Guantanamo isle by USA. What a fall !
        It does things that earn it no economic or diplomatic or social benefit of any kind . It is land that is used by the USA with no concern on the effects on the British citizen .
        It seems a big charade , a big Ponzi scheme a simple big show that its political activities have been reduced to by media , military , and corporate . UK does what USA asks him to do
        Those who do become the political leaders those who don’t become Corbyn . Angry confused British turns to bad lessons out of history to feel good and reaches to Trump dog whistle on racial views for solution . Both are destroying Britain from opposite sides .

      40. @Paul

        This is the legacy of a woman known as iron lady.

        • Replies: @Paul
      41. Moi says:
        @Paul

        Nah, these traitors need to be locked up for a very long time–which they would be if they pulled this shit in the USoA.

      42. anonymous[191] • Disclaimer says:
        @Anon

        Millions of Chinese in an already overpopulated Britain would be better than say blacks and indians but they still are an alien culture and would simply turn England into a Chinese suburb. Chinese have their own area in the world and whites have theirs, keep them apart for the benefit of both races.

        • Agree: anon19
      43. Corvinus says:
        @Priss Factor

        “I respect real dissidents, but most HK troublemakers are tools of globo-homo West. They are traitors and deserve to face the firing squad.”

        Fascist.

        • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
        • Replies: @MAOWASAYALI
      44. anon[122] • Disclaimer says:

        Britain hopes that it will survive the stupidities of last 40 years by blaming the immigrants . The notorious white Anglo alt right thinks it can climb out if this hole by blaming the opening above that keeps reminds itself of being corralled and pounded inside .
        Now D Cumming of Johnson governments thinks he can dismantle EU and UN , join openly USA in enforcing USA’s will on the rest and then present it as British /American finest moment .

        With this kind of leader , I will support the Nigerian anytime over any Brexiter.

      45. KA says:

        If China were like India or Pakistan or Nigeria beholden to the glamor and charisma of British-US , then

        “Kai Tak” would have been touted as something China could never produce and could have never built anything like this .

        Indian subcontinent is awash with this type of sentiment .—/
        Britain taught “ English , modern science , democracy , built roads introduced trains and institutions of higher learnings”

        Nepotism poor educational standard , laziness of thinking casteism and language based chauvinism have a lot to explain for this mindset both in India and Pakistan .

        This mindset also produces foundation on which foreign entity can prey on abuse misuse and use as it
        as vehicle for propaganda and use it to maintain intellectual chokehold on thinking fresh or alternative .

      46. Bellah says:

        What can China do? give Hong Cong and Taiwan to the west, the very ones that Are openly trying to contain or stifle China’s phenomenal growth. Just surrender to the west and the US will come in with military basis including Nukes, and that’s the end of China as we know it, we will have them completely shut off from the Pacific and surrounded. Then we can legalize Pot and maybe get them hooked on opium again then take what we want when we want. It’s not going to happen.

      47. Chinaman says:

        Enough speculation and western pontification. I am a born and bred Hker and these riots are happening 15 minutes away from me. I will tell you exactly what will happen. The violence will escalate but There will be no PLA or Tianamen square as so many white people hope. I know it gives white people a sick sense of sanctimonious pleasure when they see other races get killed or run over by tanks but I am sorry to disappoint you. The Chinese government is not stupid.

        These riots have happened b4- in 1967- I spoke to my mum who experienced it and this is what the HK government will do next. They will impose a curfew after 6pm and start arresting transgressors. Masks in public will be outlawed It will severely affect the economy but it will work.

        No violence needed, just lock them up and don’t allow bail. White people will squeal about freedom but not much they can do. It is the most “humane” solution…

        In fact, That’s what the British did in 1967 so we have a precedent. thousands were lockuped and some will never left the police station, thanks to the colonial masters. These UK and American hypocrites can’t say much this time.

        after a few month, it will all stopped.

        • Replies: @KK8888
        , @anon19
      48. @Jason Liu

        Completely retarded plans require retarded leaders and followers to complete.

        Why “X”? 

        “X” is the occult and shorthand representation of the Star of Remphan: “As above, so below” 

        “X” is also the 24th letter of the alphabet and the numerology of 24 is 6 (2 + 4 = 6).

        The Jewish Oligarchs who own all the central banks of this world love the number SIX; it is one of their most magical numbers.

        To wit:

        Their (((god))) created the world in SIX days.

        SIX million Jews had to be gassed at Auschwitz in order to create Israel.

        The “Star of Remphan” aka “Star of David” on the Israeli flag is the geometric representation of “666”, also referred to as the “Mark of the Beast”.

      49. KK8888 says:
        @Chinaman

        Yes. Being old enough, I experienced the riots of the 60’s. As a kid, I saw a man who broke the curfew from the 4th floor of our flat and he was shot dead by British soldiers. It was indeed quite terrifying.

        • Replies: @Dan Hayes
      50. Dan Hayes says:
        @KK8888

        KK8888:

        Another example of British ruling with an iron hand cloaked with a velvet glove!

      51. @Paul

        Freedom? where in the UK where Tommy Robinson is incarcerated for exposing Pakistani rape gangs,
        in the US where MSM lies have ruined the country?

      52. anon19 says:
        @Chinaman

        You think too much of yourself sport. We white people take neither pleasure or pain on what Chinese people in China/Hong Kong do. We just wish you would stay out of our countries.

        But you won’t.

        • Replies: @Chinaman
      53. anon19 says:

        Once more I ask you Mr. Margolis. What is your solution? You are so quick to point out problems all around the world. Problems in Israel/Palestine. Problems in Kashmir…etc…

        But you never offer any solutions, answers or alternatives. Your Captain Obvious act is getting old…..

      54. Chinaman says:
        @anon19

        You have it the other way round.

        Why are you writing this in America but not UK or EUROPE ?

        Why are there white people in Australia?

        Why did British rule HK for 150 years?

        It is You guys just can’t mind your business and keep invading other people’s countries.

        There are 100,000 American tax evader in HK stirring up trouble. Fifth columns.

        Stay the fuck out of Hong Kong.

        But you won’t…

        • Replies: @anon19
      55. augusto says:
        @Yee

        Yee, yes.
        We mistrust all that jazz of pro democracy protesters, when the extradiction law whad been withdrawn.
        Obviously what bad old Us of A is lookin for is another thing.
        They cannot destroy the dragon as superbly proven by the economy, by the south China artificial islands turned unsinkable ships, by environmental policy, by ever growing win-win negotiations, by Chinas success story outbreaking all over AFRICA and asia… A success that will be an irresistible pole of attraction in the next two decades for nearly all of third world countries…
        And this time the indispensables of warshington will no longer have the muscle to block them as done in the past…
        Yes, the HK was important for China but it is being turned less and less important everyday on both trade and GDP terms. So just let the time to elapse and HK will die of a natural death, no wonder .Besides singapore is just around the corner and speaks both languages as well.
        And remember that during 2015 up to 2016 in South american Brazil, ALSO the local US consulate in Rio de Janeiro had a fantastic number of over 500 clerks, attaches and officials… In Aug 2016 a mixed media and congress coup sucessfully ousted president D Roussef. Ah, and the fucking Us ambassador was the same that occupied the post in Asuncion a few year earlier as local President Lugo was deposed by a strange coup d ‘etat.
        Just as the ancient roman Senator used to say about Carthago “the American empire must be destroyed”

      56. anon19 says:
        @Chinaman

        Why are there white people in Australia?

        Because about 250 years ago they settled in an empty continent. And made it a great country.

        Why did British rule HK for 150 years?

        The British are long gone sport. You can enjoy your totalitarian Chinese government in Beijing.

        Why are you writing this in America…

        I am not.

        Btw, Europe was attacked by the east for centuries before its overseas expansion began.

        Invading other peoples countries…

        Like China has invaded Tibet or Xinjiang?
        Australia and America were not countries until whites created them

        Stay the fuck out of Hong Kong.

        Couldn’t care less about the shithole place. But there are over 400,000 Chinese there holding Canadian passports in their safety deposit boxes. I sure bet they won’t stay in Hong Kong if things go south there.

        • Replies: @Chinaman
        , @DB Cooper
      57. Chinaman says:
        @anon19

        It is ludicrous how you “white”wash everything, It is white people like you who are responsible for genocide. How convenient and shameless of you to say that Australia is a empty continent after the genocide of aboriginals. Same as native Indians.

        Tibet and xinjiang were not even countries before the British invaded that land and claim it for the crown. It is funny every time China kick out imperialist out and gave them autonomy, they start asking for independence.

        We have to learn genocide from white people so we can erase the native’s history and existence and claim it was empty land.

        I guess Canada was empty too…

        • Replies: @anon19
      58. DB Cooper says:
        @anon19

        Tibet was invaded all right, by India.

        Free South Tibet from India.

        • Replies: @Anon
        , @Ber
        , @Hanoodtroll
      59. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:
        @DB Cooper

        British Raj

        British have invaded nine out of ten countries – so look out Luxembourg
        Britain has invaded all but 22 countries in the world in its long and colourful history, new research has found.

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9653497/British-have-invaded-nine-out-of-ten-countries-so-look-out-Luxembourg.html

        The U.S. Has Been At War 222 Out of 239 Years. This morning, I discovered an interesting statistic, “America Has Been At War 93% of the Time – 222 Out of 239 Years – Since 1776“, i.e. the U.S. has only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth.Mar 19, 2017

        https://freakonometrics.hypotheses.org/50473

      60. anon19 says:
        @Chinaman

        Pretty much sport. Canada is larger then China. There were an estimated 300,000 Indians in Canada when white settlement began.

        Now let us suppose China had only 300,000 inhabitants, (one-tenth the population of very tiny Wales), instead of 1,400,000,000 people. Would you say China was a filled country or an empty one?

        Your talk of white people and genocide does not bear serious historical scrutiny. Only in the phony world of political correctness and race hustling.

        Still despite your rudeness and hostility I actually bear you no ill-will. i have no malice for the people in Hong Kong.

        • Replies: @DB Cooper
        , @Chinaman
      61. Paul says:
        @byrresheim

        The Hong Kong people have been sold out. They are brave though. They are resisting in the streets.

      62. The wide-bodied jumbo aircraft would drop down into a long fjord that was usually shrouded in fog or mist. The nervous passenger would see nothing but cloud.

        It was worse than that. The pilots couldn’t see the runway until the last minute– literally. Already well into descent, they aimed the aircraft at a blank white billboard on a mountainside until just the right moment, then made a right-angle turn and landed. Brrr.

        San Diego had (has?) a similar fright, a too-high parking ramp right in the landing path.

        I think both airports had a higher-than-average safety record. Something called “risk compensation”.

      63. @Adûnâi

        reign in an uprising

        Typo, or pun?

      64. @Ma Laoshi

        … and have all the democratic rights they enjoyed under the Brits again, i.e., zero? It’s no accident that the appeal of this blackshirt movement is limited to people who’ve never known British colonial rule firsthand.

        Under British rule, the Hong Kongers were freer than were voters in the UK. Democracy and liberty are very different things.

        • Replies: @Chinaman
      65. DB Cooper says:
        @anon19

        Depending which China you are referring to. If you are talking about Republic of China (aka Taiwan), then China is bigger than Canada.

      66. Ber says:
        @DB Cooper

        We do not get much information on India’s invasions around the area. Sources of information are appreciated. In fact John Pilger, the well known Australian journalist and filmmaker made references to the atrocities committed by India against the Kashmiri people in the area.

      67. DB Cooper says:
        @Ber

        Here goes. Please feel free to disseminate and expand on it as you see fit. For reasons I don’t have time to get into the MSM was never interested in reporting on this. Glad you are here in unz.com.

        [MORE]

        1947 Annexation of Kashmir (United Nation recognized disputed territory 1):
        http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/06/indias-shame/
        http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/kashmirs-young-rebels/
        1949 Annexation of Manipur:
        http://www.tehelka.com/manipurs-merger-with-india-was-a-forced-annexation/
        http://www.passblue.com/2017/09/05/in-lush-manipur-women-work-for-peace-as-militarization-marches-on/
        1949 Annexation of Tripura:
        http://www.crescent-online.net/2009/09/the-myths-of-one-nation-and-one-hinduism-in-india-zawahir-siddique-2316-articles.html
        1951 Annexation of South Tibet (United Nation recognized disputed territory 2):
        http://kanglaonline.com/2011/06/khathing-the-taking-of-tawang/
        http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article2582.html
        http://chasfreeman.net/india-pakistan-and-china/
        1954 Annexation of Nagaland:
        http://morungexpress.com/desire-nagas-live-separate-nation-deserved/
        http://nagalandmusings.blogspot.com/2013/01/indias-untold-genocide-of-nagas.html
        1954 Attempt annexation of Sikkim and Bhutan (Failed):
        http://redbarricade.blogspot.hk/2013/01/twisted-truth.html
        1961 Annexation of Goa:
        http://www.ruleoflaw.org.au/the-annexation-of-goa/
        http://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/goa-falls-indian-troops
        http://goa-invasion-1961.blogspot.in/2013/09/india-pirated-goa-china-is-regaining_16.html
        1962 Annexation of Kalapani, Nepal:
        http://www.eurasiareview.com/07032012-indian-hegemony-in-nepal-oped/
        http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1239348
        http://www.sharnoffsglobalviews.com/land-disputes-116/
        1962 Aggression against China:
        http://gregoryclark.net/redif.html
        http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/news-events/podcasts/renewed-tension-indiachina-border-whos-blame
        continue …
      68. DB Cooper says:
        @Ber

        continue …

        [MORE]

        1971 Annexation of Turtuk, Pakistan:
        http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/suddenly-indian
        1972 Annexation of Tin Bigha, Bangladesh:
        http://www.dhakatribune.com/op-ed/2014/feb/20/killing-fields
        1975 Annexation of Sikkim (the whole country):
        http://nepalitimes.com/issue/35/Nation/9621#.UohjPHQo6LA
        http://www.passblue.com/2015/07/22/a-small-himalayan-kingdom-remembers-its-lost-independence/

        http://asia.nikkei.com/Politics-Economy/International-Relations/Indian-hegemonism-drags-Himalayan-kingdom-into-oblivion
        http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/annexation-of-sikkim-by-india-was-not-legal-wangchuk-namgyal/1/391498.html
        1983 (Aborted) Attempted invasion of Mauritius:
        http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/when-india-almost-invaded-mauritius/
        1987 Invasion of Sri Lanka
        http://www.asiantribune.com/node/63316
        1990 (Failed) First Attempted annexation of Bhutan:
        http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/07/world/india-based-groups-seek-to-disrupt-bhutan.html
        2006 Annexation of Duars, Bhutan:
        http://wangchasangey.blogspot.in/2015/11/different-kind-of-anxieties-on.html#comment-form
        2013 Annexation of Moreh, Myanmar:
        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nehginpao-kipgen/easing-indiamyanmar-borde_b_4633040.html
        2017 Aggression against China:
        http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/07/06/sikkim-stand-off-china-india-collide-himalayas/
        http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2102555/indias-china-war-round-two
        https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/07/11/china-india-standoff-modi-has-bitten-off-more-than-he-can-chew/
        2017 (Failed) Second Attempted annexation of Bhutan:
        http://wangchasangey.blogspot.com/2017/08/the-strategy-behind-india-doklam.html
        http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2106709/india-must-find-face-saving-pretext-and-withdraw-doklam
        2018 (Thwarted) Attempt invasion of the Maldives
        https://www.ft.com/content/332a5b1a-1155-11e8-8cb6-b9ccc4c4dbbb
        https://thewire.in/223916/keep-off-maldives-yameen-government-tells-indian-military/?utm_source=alsoread
      69. DB Cooper says:
        @Hanoodtroll

        Not at all. Since 2009 occupied South Tibet (so called AP) is recognized by the United Nation as a disputed territory, along with India’s other, Kashmir.

        Free South Tibet from the filthy smelly rapey ugly cow piss drinking open defecating shithole India.

        • Replies: @Hanoodtroll
      70. @DB Cooper

        In the 1962 war China actually did recapture all of Arunachal Pradesh. But due to overstretched supply lines they decided to vacate it again.

        • Replies: @DB Cooper
      71. DB Cooper says:
        @Hanoodtroll

        Whatever the reason China need to take back South Tibet from the shithole. South Tibet is under a law called AFSPA (Armed Force Special Power Act). AFSPA gives the shithole the power to detain or kill anyone with impunity. It is a law meant to suppress dissent and intimidate the locals. Rape is one of the instruments the Hindoo rapists used on the Tibetans girls and women (surprise!). Where are all those Western human rights activist when it comes to occupied South Tibet?

        Free South Tibet from the filthy smelly rapey ugly cow piss drinking open defecating shithole India.

      72. Ber says:
        @DB Cooper

        Thank you for providing such a long list on India’s ‘muscular policy’.

        • Replies: @DB Cooper
      73. DB Cooper says:
        @Ber

        Please disseminate this list as you see fit.

        When the British gifted the new country they created to the Hindoos the Hindoos modelled their new country after the expansionist British Raj, especially with regards to foreign policy. After all historically there is no such thing as India. This is one of the reason why India continue the bullying and land grabbing BS after the British Raj has left.

        To the Hindoos colonialism is only bad when they are at the receiving end of it.

      74. Paul says:
        @Paul

        Try to pay attention. Unlike China, Britain does not drive over demonstrators with tanks Tiananmen Square style. And, by the way, free Tibet!

        • Replies: @DB Cooper
        , @Paul
      75. DB Cooper says:
        @Paul

        Yes free South Tibet from India!

      76. Paul says:
        @Paul

        India? lol. As I said, try to pay attention. And free the Uyghurs as well!

      77. @Corvinus

        Speaking of ‘globo-homo West’… oh, say can you see who is cheering (instigating?) the Hong Kong pro-Jewmocracy Revolution… Prison Planet in-house analist ‘reporter’ Paul Joseph Watson.

        • Replies: @Curmudgeon
      78. Chinaman says:
        @Reg Cæsar

        Under British rule, the Hong Kongers were freer than were voters in the UK

        That’s rubbish and blatant distortion of the truth. My parents experience British imperial rule and told me all the subjugation and discrimination . Chinese were not even allowed to own property on the peak and whatever freedom they allowed was that they would give to slaves.

      79. Chinaman says:
        @anon19

        It is impossible to have a rational discussion with white people on the crimes of their ancestors.

        Slavery is bringing civilisation to the barbarians.

        Stealing land is justified by saying it was empty.

        Genocide of the native people is downplayed and suppressed as if it never happened.

        If you are wondering why I am rude and hostile, may be you should stop trying to whitewash history and face up to the crimes against humanity perpetuated by your people.

      80. @MAOWASAYALI

        As best as I can tell, he’s been saying it’s another CIA psy-op.

        If the “Hong Kong protesters” wanted their “freedom back”, why American flags and not British or Hong Kong flags?

        How about. Oh, say can YOU see…

      81. FB says: • Website
        @Per/Norway

        Agree Per…

        Eric Margolis is an establishment media scumbag who tried to build up some ‘alt media’ creds at the time that the public opinion started getting negative on the Iraq war…

        Look up some of his ‘work’ from the ’90s…he was a cheerleader for the US bombing of Yugoslavia and a fervent supporter of the ‘poor Kosovar’ gangsters who today are known as the most fertile recruiting ground for ISIS…organ harvesting, and running the biggest mafia in Europe…much to the chagrin of law enforcement tasked to deal with this human garbage…

        They can all send their thank you notes to war party propagandists like Margolis…

        He calls China a police state…has he ever been there…?

        Police are hardly to be seen in Chinese cities, never mind gunning down citizens at the rate of 1,000 a year like we see in the US…

        This is transparent propaganda bullshit…throwing around loaded language like ‘police state’…as if our own western nations aren’t…

        What a fucking clown…I never read his bilge and I have no idea why this snake appears here…

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