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      Earlier by Lance Welton: Do You Know All Coronavirus Victims Appear To Be Chinese? Thought Not!

      I have previously reported the case of Dr Noah Carl, a young Cambridge University political scientist whom the once-august university fired for publishing peer-reviewed research on the subject of “race” and for collaborating with like-minded academics. One paper of Carl’s particularly upset the Woking Classes because it turned one of their many fallacious arguments against the biological concept of “race” on its head: it argued, in effect, that the Truth about race will actually Set Us Free. This is directly relevant to the current panic over the Coronavirus, where we see the negative consequences of Race Denialism playing out all too clearly, and even possibly dangerously.

      In 2018, Carl published an article in the journal Evolutionary Psychological Science entitled “How Stifling Debate Around Race, Genes and IQ Can Do Harm”, April 28, 2018.Whereas Leftists insist that we shouldn’t discuss “race” because the “harm” that this might do—in terms of encouraging “racism,” giving “fuel” to “racist” groups, and challenging “equality”—Carl countered that not discussing it can potentially have worse consequences than acknowledging “race”

      • Firstly, if you believe in the Blank Slate view, then you may make Soviet-like attempts to improve humanity, which only make things worse because “human nature” is strongly genetic.
      • Secondly, if we are all genetically equal in our intellectual capacities then the the only way that a group, such as Ashkenazi Jews, could have been so successful would be through immoral behaviour, providing people with an incentive to persecute them.
      • Thirdly, if you don’t acknowledge race and do not research medical conditions suffered from disproportionally by specific races, and you do not take race differences in medicine-responsiveness or alcohol or disease resistance into account, this can actually lead to needless deaths.
      • Fourthly, if you suppress the discussion of “race,” you might find that, for example, fear of being accused of “racism” caused officials in Rotherham in northern England turn a blind eye to, and even cover up, the fact of gangs of Muslim South Asian youths grooming and raping teenage white girls. [The grooming gang cover-up is Britain’s real racism scandal, By Alison Pearson, Telegraph, January 21, 2020]. Similarly, Carl notes that when parents in Oxfordshire, where there were also Pakistani grooming and rape of white underage girls, asked why no arrests had been made. the police actually said frankly that they were under pressure not to arrest Pakistanis in case it looked “racist.” Thus race denialism actually caused harm—repeatedly.

      Of course, there’s another consequence of suppressing the truth about “race:” it can cause people to be more racist.

      What if there were a deadly virus spreading around the world that had started with a particular race? Inevitably, rational people would do everything they possibly could to avoid that race. You wouldn’t socialize with people of that race. You wouldn’t shake hands with people from that race. Indeed, you’d cross the road to avoid them.

      This is exactly what’s happening, so we are told, with regard to Chinese people and other East Asians, due to the fact that the Coronavirus started in China.

      The Ruling Class’s response: this rational reaction must be stamped out. The Washington Post recently posted an extraordinary Stalinist invitation for readers to inform on their neighbors:

      Have you seen or experienced any discrimination, racism or xenophobia connected to the ongoing Coronavirus epidemic? Share your story., February 4, 2019

      Punishing whites may well be an end in itself for the Ruling Class. But the fact is this particular outbreak of “racism” could be stopped cold if we would only calmly and openly discuss the issue of “race.”

      It is still the case that only Chinese people have died of this virus. This implies that other races may be more resistant to it, as I discussed last week.

      This week, a handful of “Germans” working in a car factory have reportedly contracted Corona from a Chinese colleague. Of course they too could be ethnically Chinese, as has generally been the case when this disease has occurred outside China—the media won’t say. But their symptoms are reported to be extremely “mild” [New coronavirus can spread before symptoms start, German case suggests, By Rachael Rettner, Live Science, February 3, 2020]. Similarly, whites did catch the 1982 SARS disease, but suffered less from it.

      This is in line with the finding, reported in the journal PLOS Pathogens, that viruses that jump the species barrier, such as Corona, become less and less virulent as they spread away from the place where the “jump” was made [The Causes and Consequences of Changes in Virulence following Pathogen Host Shifts, By Ben Longdon et al., 2015].

      Indeed, I can only find two proven cases of whites catching Corona virus as of Saturday, February 8, U.S. Eastern Time. One was a British man on a ship quarantined off Japan. But his situation does not appear to serious either [Coronavirus: British man on his honeymoon among 61 confirmed cases on cruise ship, By David Mercer, Sky News, February 7, 2020]. The other was also British. Connor Reed, below, caught it in Wuhan, the disease’s epicentre where it is presumably most dangerous, refused antibiotics, treated himself with hot whisky and honey, and survived [Coronavirus: British man who caught virus ‘beat flu with glass of hot whisky’, by Bradley Jolly, MirrorOnline, February 3, 2020]

      Why is our Ruling Class suppressing the truth? Their desire to punish whites is certainly one reason. But the deeper motive: a fanatical determination to maintain the myth that “race is a social construct.”

      As British Indian journalist Angela Saini claimed in her widely-touted 2019 book Superior: The Return of Race Science [p.123], “race” is not a biological reality, beyond supposedly “superficial” traits such as skin color and morphology.

      Thus in Saini World it is impossible for there to be race differences in disease prevalence, because that might imply that “race” was a biological reality and that might imply that all races are not “equal.” But we are all equal. And if you don’t agree, then you’re a bad person like President Trump.

      And in “Saini World,” whites can die of the Coronavirus. Which means they will avoid Chinese people. And you end up with Woke headlines of unparalleled virtue-signalling dementedness, like this from a Philadelphia Inquirer editorial: Coronavirus: racism and exclusion can hurt as much as a virus.” January 30, 2020.

      That’s right folks. Racism and discrimination are as painful as having a very serious form of flu that you may well die of.

      My point: there’s no rational reason to “discriminate” against the Chinese, and so inflict on them a pain worse than nearly dying. You’re most unlikely to catch Corona and, if you do, the symptoms will be mild.

      The “racism” that Corona Virus has allegedly unleashed (despite “race” being entirely a social construct, so how we even identify people as being East Asian is unclear) is entirely a consequence of the failure of the Ruling Class to (openly) accept and discuss the biological reality of “race”—including race differences in disease prevalence.

      Their actions have caused “racism.” If any Chinese person is discriminated against or worse attacked because of Corona in the coming months, then that person will know who to blame:

      Angela Saini and Ruling Class science-deniers like her.

      Lance Welton [email him] is the pen name of a freelance journalist living in New York.

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      1. niceland says:

        STILL No Non-Chinese Deaths from Coronavirus,

        ‘Still’ being the operative word. 20 days plus, from early symptoms to death. Just wait a week or two and time will catch up with people outside China.

        • Replies: @reiner Tor
        , @Richard B
      2. Alfred says:

        Assuming that the underlying hypothesis of this article is correct – that Chinese people are more vulnerable to this virus – what does that lead us to suppose?

        Is it not now reasonable to suppose that this virus was deliberately made to harm Chinese people?

        If so, who could possibly be the prime suspect(s)?

        Any ideas?

      3. Anonymous[197] • Disclaimer says:

        Why is our Ruling Class suppressing the truth? Their desire to punish whites is certainly one reason. But the deeper motive: a fanatical determination to maintain the myth that “race is a social construct.”

        Yes, both of those reasons are certainly part of it.

        But there are also other reasons.

        Acknowledging the racial aspect raises the possibility of other hypotheses, such as biowarfare directed against China, especially given the timing and other circumstances. These sorts of hypotheses and “conspiracy theories” are generally not something they want to promote.

      4. https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/coronavirus-usa-confirmed-cases-news-cruise-ship-death-toll-evacuations-latest-2020-02-07/

        Since the victim is described as an “American Citizen” I of course imagine Superman in Clark Kent pseudo-disguise, the classic suit and fedora. More loosely, I imagine any member of the Leave It To Beaver universe, and hope it’s that blonde, Aryan, but obnoxious Eddie Haskell.

        Unless this American Citizen turns out to be of East Asian descent, this blows quite the hole in your little theory.

      5. Yeah, this Jewish bioweapon only seems to be killing Chinese people. I wonder why. Gee, maybe the Jews actually understand who their real threats are.

        You know, maybe the Jews aren’tactually threatened by populations which willingly send billions of dollars to them every year, send their own children to Drag Queen Grooming Hour, send their own children to die for the Jews, and vote for various Jewish shills in fake elections. Maybe the Jews don’t actually need to release bioweapons into those countries. Maybe.

        But above all, thank Allah that Lance Welton’s precious WN heroes, the Uyghurs, aren’t being affected by this Jewish bioweapon. That’s something we can all be grateful for.

        • Agree: Jett Rucker
      6. nmb says:

        WaPo indirectly requested permission from US officials to publish files had been already published by WikiLeaks
        http://bit.ly/2nC2feP

      7. Whitewolf says:

        Being “woke” today means that you should be prepared to contract a potentially fatal disease as the ultimate virtue signal against “racism and exclusion”.

        I’d rather be called names, other than “woke” of course.

      8. Ber says:

        Since Asian Chinese are more susceptible, so will a lot of those descendants of mixed marriages between Chinese and others. Something for these descendants to worry about.

        • Replies: @Really No Shit
      9. Emily says:
        @Alfred

        Well put Alfred.
        You speak my immediate thoughts and those of most others, I suspect.
        It also explains why the USA and certainly we Brits are/were so casual in stopping the continuing flights in from China.
        They realise that the threat to their populations is comparatively minor.
        On the other hand the position of the Japanese and some! other Asian nations is not so happy.
        Have any Japanese died or passed it on, though?
        And Africa seems to be ‘immune’.
        Many Chinese there.
        Time will tell……

      10. NPleeze says:

        Pretty brainless attribution of “race” views to Liberals, but here’s what gives you away as being a ZioNazi:

        Secondly, if we are all genetically equal in our intellectual capacities then the the only way that a group, such as Ashkenazi Jews, could have been so successful would be through immoral behaviour, providing people with an incentive to persecute them.

        Lance Welton is the pen name of a ZioNazi pretend-White-supremacist living in New York.

        Who could imagine that?

      11. The virus is killing mostly old people with pre-existing conditions. It started in China where…there are a lot of Chinese people.

        Now the Chinese did a pretty good job locking the place down but some people still got out. Is it possible that perhaps the reason it has only killed Chinese so far is because it started in China? If it really was a virus far more effective against East Asians, then we would be hearing about Japanese deaths as well.

        This is of course just a desperate attempt to inject race realism into the debate. I don’t think anyone denies that racial groups differ physically, it is the mental that is the contentious issue. After all, if skin colour and facia features are different, that must mean there are some genes that are different which are internal.

        I don’t get why the VDARE crowd are so obsessed by Saini’s book, it’s as if VDARE have not managed to achieve anything it set out to do regarding immigration so they just pick on obscure writers.

        Race realism is well established as sound science, I suppose VDARE think shilling for it at every possible opportunity will result in White people going 1488 one day.

      12. @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

        I assume they don’t give a name, as that might give it away. Alex, just so you know, at this point there are something like officially 15% of the people in America who are foreigners, and the number is likely higher, as not many illegal aliens do census forms and other paperwork (after all, they are the “undocumented”, right?).

        That is just 15% born somewhere else! If you were to add in all progeny of recent immigrants, you’d get a very big number. If you narrow it down to just Oriental people per this post, or maybe even just Chinese people, it’ll be a smaller number, but not insignificant.

        What I’m getting at, Alex, is that the term “American Citizen” no longer has the connotation of “a white person”. Your imagination of the guy in the fedora or Eddie Haskell is indeed a bit … off by 60 years.

      13. @Whitewolf

        The whole “sticks and stones” theory that previous generations learned in Kindergarten has been forgotten or never learned by the young generations. Perhaps there should be a youtube channel.

      14. One view of the situation

      15. Diversity of disease is our strength.

      16. Maybe the antibiotic treatment that is so liberally used in China is part of the problem. Remember, this is a virus, not a bacterial infection. This is also a problem in the U.S. Clinics love antibiotics.

      17. The claim is already inaccurate.

      18. It’s ok to be racist.
        All ethnicities are unapologetic racists, only brainwashed whites pretend otherwise. The left plays the racist card all the time, because it always works to put whites on the defensive. Here’s how to stop feeling guilty:

        Racism is intrinsically neither moral nor immoral… it depends on how it’s done.

        MORAL: Race awareness. Race realism. Racial separation. Meritocratic standards. Ethnostates. Segregation. The wall. Good fences make good neighbors. Mutual respect.
        IMMORAL: Race denialism. Racial superiority. Slavery. Racial genocide. Racial setasides. Reverse racism. Affirmative action. Destruction of cultural heritage. Demographic replacement.

        • Agree: Mefobills
      19. Typo-Buster says: • Website

        You mean the 2002 SARS disease, not the “1982 SARS disease”

      20. @Alfred

        In 2020 no conspiracy theory can be completely discounted without some thought & search for evidence.
        I don’t know either way….

      21. @Anonymous

        The nCOV virus was most likely engineered by the Chinese themselves in a new level 4 bioweapons lab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

        https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1

        Glycoprotein gp120 has been found to play a major role in HIV infecting host cells. Now guess who’s working on gp120… the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

        Either an infected animal escaped, or a lab worker was unintentionally infected. Either way, the Chinese have been hoisted on their own petard.

      22. @Whitewolf

        “Racism and discrimination are as painful as having a very serious form of flu that you may well die of.”
        The person who wrote this maybe functional, but is also totally insane. Imagine comparing the pain of a dangerous disease & possibly death to some unspecified degree of discrimination etc?

      23. The ‘American’ who died was ethnic Han.
        The media is going to great lengths to misinform and further delude the masses. Now it’s pangolin soup.
        Fact: Bio-Weapon–.factor gain of 2-3x perimeter over Sars
        Soon to be Fact–.Ace2 specific, ie. designed to kill Han Chinese

        Never proven: American agents release it into China.

        Fact: Swine Flu and Avian Flu hit Chinese farmer; drones were used and have been collected by MinSS and Army. The drones come from a standard injection mold (plastics) which indicates 30 wk for a setup which indicates intense prior planning.

        Add in Corona and you have 3 plagues hitting China at once. BTW, Chinese standards of hygiene are far better than S. Asia or Africa.

        Anyone with a brain has to conclude that this is assymetrical warfare if they have bothered to read what is out there, including the patents (Eur, and US) held by Pirbright Institute for corona.

        But, our focus must be on ‘racism’? Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

        • Agree: Antiwar7
        • Replies: @SaneClownPosse
        , @denk
        , @denk
      24. onebornfree says: • Website

        “STILL No Non-Chinese Deaths from Coronavirus, ”

        Cripes! A racist virus! There oughta be a law……!

        Meanwhile, back at the ranch….:

        “In this interview, Spiro’s guest is Francis Boyle, who is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois, College of Law. Professor Boyle is the man who drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989,………..Professor Boyle does not hold back, as he makes his position clear on the origins of the coronavirus and what he believes to be an ongoing coverup of a deadly bioweapon, which has escaped the BSL-4 lab in Wuhan China. The interview also covers the suspicious timing of the coronavirus outbreak following the high-level pandemic exercise simulating a global coronavirus outbreak only about 6 weeks before the actual coronavirus outbreak occurred.”

        https://www.activistpost.com/2020/02/interview-author-of-us-bioweapons-act-believes-the-who-china-are-lying-about-the-coronavirus.html

        regards, onebornfree

        • Thanks: Republic
      25. onebornfree says: • Website
        @Alfred

        “who could possibly be the prime suspect(s)?”

        Da jooz! Sgotta be all da fukkin jooz, lojickly speeking, cuz they do everthing.

        “Regards” onebornfree

        • Replies: @neprof
      26. @Anonymous

        Hell, if only Chinese or east Asian deaths, I would go 99.999%% from a non believer of bio weapon to a 99.999% believer of a bio weapon engineered for the Chinese.

        Nature doesn’t discriminate in it’s death selection.

        Humans do.

        I can’t wait to see the Chinese response if so or the lack thereof. Would show me if China will be a top tier nation or another whipped dog.

        • Replies: @anon
      27. polistra says: • Website

        Even the Chinese numbers, if we can believe them, are nothing special. Not outside the range of “ordinary” non-newsworthy flu. Influenza is always a serious disease everywhere.

        This fake epidemic has more to do with China’s need to stop a rebellion.

        • Replies: @onebornfree
      28. TT says:

        SARS
        Infected 96% Chinese, Death 96% Chinese

        2019-nCov
        Infected >99% Chinese, Death 100% Chinese.

        Those supposingly non-Chinese infected, all only develop mild cases.

        This is the way India has their quarantine for students returning from Wuhan. No isolation, Mass dancing to celebrate.
        https://www.rt.com/news/479901-indian-students-dance-quarantine-wuhan-video/

      29. melpol says:

        Bigots deny that Ashkenazi Jews have a genetic component which helps them become high achievers.
        Bigots claim those high achievers are immoral not gifted. This opinion causes hatred against successful Jews and leads to false accusations of criminal activity.

      30. mike99588 says:
        @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

        News is reporting a 60 yo Chinese-American (citizenship) woman staying in Wuhan, died. So race is still a possible barrier.

        I figure deaths represent the population infected as of 3-4 weeks ago in my mental calculus so the real “race test” is ahead of us.

      31. Earlier by Lance Welton: Do You Know All Coronavirus Victims Appear To Be Chinese? Thought Not!

        I did pretty much think this might be the case. My suspicion was encouraged by the lack of MSM specifically touting that many of other “ethnicities” were affected.

        The reports of hundreds of “Americans” flying back from China brought images of, shall we say, a people who’s ancestors were not intimately involved the the creation of America. Beyond working on early railroad building in the West.

      32. tapnewswire.com

        “Coronavirus is stage one of ‘Lock Step’ “, by Tapestry :
        “Lock Step “,devised by the Rockefeller Foundation , describes “…a World of tighter top-down government control[ New World Order ?] and more authoritarian leadership…The novel Coronavirus is thus not merely a depopulation exercise , as some have claimed . It could be the trigger for the imposition of a worldwide police state.”
        • Replies: @Sunshine
      33. Ashkenazi Jews did rise to the top of the ponzi scheme pyramid by immoral behavior and it’s the Islam that’s the driving force behind the so called “South Asians” who were grooming and raping young girls (the Hindoos and Christians of Poonjab and Sind were not involved in those shameful acts).

        So, if you want race to be race then let the ethnicity be of ethnicity and religion be of religion, i.e identify for what they truly are remembering the old saw: what’s good for the goose is good for the gander!

      34. lysias says:

        So, is Wuhan coronavirus a biological weapon developed to target China?

      35. melpol says:

        Thousands of Ashkenazi Jews have been carefully screened for signs of criminal activity. Many have been jailed without evidence because of certainty of their wrong doing. This mini-Holocaust is caused by the mistaken belief that high achieving Jews are immoral rather than gifted. The smart gene in Jews is deep and complex. In the next decade the Jewish smart gene will be brought into daylight. Smart genes will be quickly transferred to the sub-Saharan population. Jewish high achievers will no longer be fine tooth combed for infractions of the law.

      36. The Uyghurs? The Tibetans? The Hongkongers? A nation of billion is likely to have a million enemies at least …

      37. @Alfred

        China has been the epicenter of two devastating pork flus, and recent emergence of a bird flu. There is something seriously wrong with China right now. Maybe it is work of a crazy lab. Or maybe its environmental. Then again given their religious education camps, perhaps they are just getting a godly smackdown.

        • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
      38. @Ber

        The Upper Westsiders are shaking in their boots as we write … so much for marrying a me-love-you-long-time.

        P. S. Maybe someone ought to go and check on the Derbyshire brood!

      39. neprof says:
        @onebornfree

        Maybe it was a vaccine gone wrong? This presentation has some anecdotal facts but interesting facts nonetheless.

        • Agree: Agent76
        • Replies: @Agent76
        , @onebornfree
      40. So it is racist to notice this is primarily hitting ethnic Chinese. What about noticing interruptions in multinational corporation’s supply chain? Gonna be equality for all when the pharmaceutical drugs run out, especially in China itself. Does that not ultimately make globalism racist for not having a diverse supply of producers? This is all so very tiring for something called woke.

      41. Anonymous[399] • Disclaimer says:
        @Alfred

        I do believe it was a bio weapon. That is why China isn’t accepting US health. China has tons of stem scientists. You don’t think they are working on a retaliatory virus to attack white people?

        This will not end well.

        https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/

        • Replies: @Robjil
        , @Hapalong Cassidy
      42. @Old and grumpy

        The Chinese are probably part of “Lock Step” , see my comment above #32.

      43. Coronavirus is a deep state created virus unleashed on China to rein in China’s economic competition throughout the world, this a biological war unleashed on China by the zionists!

        • Replies: @Jett Rucker
      44. Agent76 says:

        Feb 9, 2020 Coronavirus – THT in 10 minutes

        Feb 8, 2020 Interview: Author of US BioWeapons Act Believes The WHO & China Are Lying About The Coronavirus

        In this interview, Spiro’s guest is Francis Boyle, who is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois, College of Law. Professor Boyle is the man who drafted the U.S. domestic implementing legislation for the Biological Weapons Convention, known as the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, which was unanimously approved by Congress and signed into law by President George Bush.

        • Agree: Desert Fox
      45. Jett Rucker says: • Website
        @Desert Fox

        Rein in China’s competition?

        Competitiveness? I wonder if your posts have value sufficient to justify the effort in decoding them.

        Nah…

        • Replies: @Desert Fox
      46. Agent76 says:
        @neprof

        Jan 11, 2020 Warning!! Disturbing footage of adverse reactions with Vaccines

        • Agree: Desert Fox
      47. onebornfree says: • Website
        @polistra

        Polistra says: “This fake epidemic has more to do with China’s need to stop a rebellion.”

        Yes, that’s what I lean towards myself. Dr Francis Boyle believes the virus to be a deliberately created bio-weapon that accidentally escaped a level 4 bio-weapons lab in Wuhan:

        https://www.activistpost.com/2020/02/interview-author-of-us-bioweapons-act-believes-the-who-china-are-lying-about-the-coronavirus.html

        I say that it could just as easily have been released deliberately, as, as you suggest, an excuse to contain and distract millions who are starting to finally rebel against their commie/fascist overlords.

        The virus [so far] appears to be mostly race specific [although there are reports of a black male dying, according to Boyle], and also to be gender specific [males], which, if true, makes perfect sense as, for a real revolution to occur in China, it is going to be mostly carried out by young [military age] males.

        The chinese government [as it openly admits] has already carried out mass slaughter of its own citizens via its “one child”policy , where figures as high as 400 million deaths by forced abortion are apparently officially claimed [although I haven’t checked “Official” figures recently] .

        Even if that figure is dismissed as being “preposterous” by some, the plain fact is that China’s enforced “one child” policy was a reality, and clearly demonstrates that the lives of Chinese citizens are of little value to their overlords with their idiotic, technocratic,anti-human, one-world, one government agenda, which is also shared by the likes of Bill Gates, Soros, and many other idiots and psychopaths within the so-called “Elite”.

        However, one thing is absolutely certain: mass, government enforced quarantines of populations to quell disease do not/will not work, and will not prevent the virus from spreading , government actions always make things worse, never better.

        The only way such mass quarantining will “work” is it will temporarily suppress/prevent the population from violently revolting- for a while- at least, maybe 😎

        Regards, onebornfree

        • Replies: @RadicalCenter
      48. @melpol

        Jews will never give up their smart gene to the goyim,they want to remain special and talked about.

        • Replies: @melpol
      49. @Jett Rucker

        China is building infastructure for countries all over the world ie in Africa, South and Central America, and Iran, etc., and China imports oil from Iran and with the attack with coronavirus China will be importing less oil, so this is an indirect attack on Iran, do some research this is a biological attack on China, by the way, contrary to China the ZUS is busy destroying the infastructure of the Middle east for its zionist masters.

        Do some research.

      50. onebornfree says: • Website
        @neprof

        “Maybe it was a vaccine gone wrong? ”

        Nah! Itz da fukkin jooz- bleeve me, I know evryfing!

        Rigardsz wunbornfreee

      51. sally says:

        So modern propaganda suggest mobster backed bio-science has invented a new way to inflict genocide <=(the new leg-breaker)? It looks to me like the Chinese government has jumped on emotional redirect and has decided to turn the mobsters own economic destroying false flag propaganda warfare against its promoters, by redirecting the energy contained within anti-Chinese propaganda to redirect the Chinese economy from dependence on the western markets to lets return to isolation. Western culture has not been good for China ideology.

        Government of China response, after some few days of delay, suggest to me that the Chinese government has made a decision to fight Trump threat to break legs of the Chinese who refuse to accept Trump's leg breaking threat policies with total abandonment and complete realignment. Knowing full well that the Chinese people can far better survive the economic disaster than can the western humanity, the Chinese have decided to cut their losses and run. For example the unstoppable Xiaomi a product of Huawei will fare far better if it is not marketed to the western controlled cultures at all. Yes, the market is some smaller, but western rules would impose so many roadblocks, that remaining isolated within the eastern markets will be much easier and safer for China and its technology.

        • Thanks: Alfred
      52. melpol says:

        Race specific bio-weapons are now too general. Scientists are busy working on a more selective Bio-weapon which will attack those genetically prone to a specific disease as breast cancer. Also there might be a retardation gene when attacked with a virus will eliminate the earth’s slow minded population.

        • Replies: @RadicalCenter
      53. Rahan says:

        A virus tailored to hit hardest Chinese people, but not Japs, Koreans, Mongols, and so on, would be like a virus that kills Frenchmen, but not Belgians, Germans but not Austrians, Russians but not Ukrainians, Poles but not Slovaks, Serbs but not Macedonians, and so on.
        I don’t think science can narrow it down that much in current year.

        The only reason that sounds logical to me for mainland Chinese people getting hit harder than anyone else in the world, is them being compromised by SARS vaccination in the past.
        Check out “hypothesis 4” here: https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/
        Also back in the day people warned China to not rush the SARS vaccine through, due to this exact risk. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4417-china-to-give-first-sars-vaccine-to-people/

        But yes, if this thing proves to be relatively harmless for the average white person, for whatever reason, then pretending that it hits everyone equally because “races are a social construct” is super dumb, and actually encourages racism born of fear of infection and death, which is irrational, if we admit races exist. Maybe we need to invent a new harmless name for “geographically originated population genetic clusters”. Something like “genetic population groups” or something.

        THIS is one of my main beefs with GloboHomo. By going overboard with their bullcrap, they are setting the table for a racist and xenophobic and homophobic backlash across the board.

        It’s one thing to be an Asian or a homo in a secure, affluent, and 90% or even 80% white Western Europe, where being gay is legal, but it ends with parades. It’s another thing to be an Asian or a homo in an insecure, crumbling infrastructure, censored and entangled in media lies, castrated tranny kids, and a seething Western Europe that feels on the verge of extinction.

        • Replies: @JRB
        , @anonymous
      54. 2 young men I knew from where I orignated both of different races..one east Indian the other a mulatto – African and White..died from multiple sclerosis in south western ontario canada some years ago. that was a stunning, alterring experience. I was shocked..young healthy men with good jobs and families, wasted away in front of our eyes and died.

        driven to find some reason that balanced this out and made sense I did research and discovered that there is indeed a problem with multiple scleros in Ontario..that if you live there with any weakness for that human biological malady..multiple sclerosis…you will come down with it and die.

        that in all probablity is the answer realtive to those 2 men of different ethnic or racial compostion. the problem in Ontario is human period. once ANY human at all has that biological weakness in that region…there you go
        .

        so there it is. it does not matter what ‘race’ you are from period. it is specific to humans period… regardless of ‘race’ and the medical profession warns no one about that reality about southwestern ontario…and lives are presumably lost all the time as a result.

        I imagine that about any human group at all, there can be found biological specialization due to environmental conditions and human responses, having lived in a region for thusands of years and biologicall alterred and adjusted to survive there. and if the powerful and crazy want to kill millions of any people, they can use such specializations to develop means to kill the only the millions they want to… by speciic attack on their biology in a huge crowd of others

        how does that make any human group a separate species or race from the rest of humanity then?

        • Replies: @Adam Smith
      55. off-guardian.org

        :” Coronavirus : Media reveals a very familiar agenda” .When the hysteria dies down :
        “…censorshsip and social control…”will be the big winners .
        • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
      56. melpol says:
        @Just passing through

        Jews can forcibly be made to have their smart gene removed which will make them less clever. This medical procedure will be beneficial to bigots who will find Jews defenseless against abuse. The problem is that most Jews will flee to Israel before their smart gene can be removed. Israel has no extradition laws and it will protect smart gene Jews.

        • LOL: Stonehands
      57. FvS says:
        @Alfred

        I doubt Trump had anything to do with it. Why risk disrupting the world economy with an election just around the corner? Plus, I don’t think he’s even capable of ordering something like that. If it was the U.S., it would have to have been some deep state black op done without the president’s knowledge.

      58. @9/11 Inside job

        twistedtruth.net

        : “FEMA proposes martial law to contain Coronavirus ” By Michael Baxter
      59. Herald says:
        @Alfred

        Could it just possibly be, those who are gloating loudest, while at the same time telling us how we stand to benefit from the outbreak of coronavirus in China?

      60. @ben sampson

        Radon gas is not rayciss!

        • Replies: @ben sampson
      61. melpol says:

        Viruses can one day be utilized to kill unwanted genes by killing its holder. Culling the unwanted gene would improve the species. Genetically based animal diseases are now identified, finding the virus that would kill the animal preventing transfer to its offspring. Negative genes are sure soon to be culled by our friend the virus.

      62. anon[285] • Disclaimer says:
        @Astuteobservor II

        Nature does discriminate in the case of hunter-gathers that have no previous exposure to the diseases of settled people (see the plains Indians). However, Chinese are Eurasians. Jared Diamond made up a lot of stuff, but there is truth to the argument regarding the spread of disease over the Eurasian continent. That’s why when Europeans went to India, SE Asia et al there were no mass disease epidemics as there were in the new world.

        Off topic, but this reminds me of how Gorillas can catch colds from humans and vice versa.

        • Replies: @Astuteobservor II
      63. clickkid says:

        This purported pandemic grows more absurd by the day.

        A grand total of two people have now died outside China – allegedly from n-Cov. In the normal course of events they would not have been noticed.

        It is interesting to compare the totals of infected in China at provincial level with HK and Macao.

        In HK and Macao – both receiving millions of Chinese visitors in the last 3 months, we have total of 39 infected, while neighbouring Guangdong province has roughly 1100.

        If this outbreak is all it’s cracked up to be, then HK and Macao should have more cases.

        Or, are the Chinese exaggerating the number of infected cases they have?

        Why should they do that?

        What if they want to go on what effectively is a ‘manufacturing strike’ – staying at home with the flue. They need a cover story in order to declare force majeure on dollar debt.

        Why would they want to do that?

        In order to force some kind of reset of the dollar-dominated international financial and monetary system.

        In any case – China is the motor of the world economy, and that motor has basically stopped.

        The most boring ‘pandemic’ in history grinds on.

      64. Greg Bacon says: • Website

        300-600K ppl die each year from common flu, so why all the hysteria over Coronachan? Stop falling for the fear mongers tactics.

        For comparison’s sake – the death rate of the Ebola virus is 90%, Bubonic plague 40-60%, Smallpox was ~30%, and the 1918 Spanish flu between 10 and 20%.

        IT IS INDISPENSABLE TO… UTTERLY EXHAUST HUMANITY WITH DISSENSION, HATRED, STRUGGLE, ENVY AND EVEN BY THE INOCULATION OF DISEASES, BY WANT, SO THAT THE “GOYIM” SEE NO OTHER ISSUE THAN OUR COMPLETE SOVEREIGNTY IN MONEY AND IN ALL ELSE.” Protocols of Zion

        • Replies: @Desert Fox
      65. You know, if you are going to link to a Telegraph article about grooming gangs at least have the decency to claim that it is a “subscriber only” article so I don’t waste my time going to it and cannot download it! No way am I spending 3 bucks a week on a MSM website I never go to! Sheesh!

      66. @Adam Smith

        https://radonkit.ca/radon-gas-map-for-canada-potential-radon-levels-across-canada/

        True! I forgot to list Radon as a major factor..more concerned with the race question

        and no one talks about that linkage in effort to protect those with propensity to Multiple sclerosis.

        • Replies: @ben sampson
        , @Adam Smith
      67. @ben sampson

        then of course there is the argument that absolves Radon as a factor of causation in MS.

        there is nothing in nature that is racist save humans who can attack a specialized group of humans on their speciality.

        there is ONE human species

        • Replies: @Adam Smith
        , @d.deacon
      68. @niceland

        I agree, but the white cases so far seem to be all mild. The article is likely wrong about the Germans in Bavaria being ethnically Chinese (they are probably all ethnically German), but the first German guy went back to work after being ill for a few days, because it appeared to be over. Although there are no detailed reports of the other cases, so far none of them seem to be in a critical or unusually serious condition, which is strange, because now there are a dozen of them (and if 10-20% of patients become seriously ill, you’d expect at least one of them to develop a serious pneumonia), and they caught it 10-15 days ago or earlier, so there’d already be time for the severe pneumonia to set in. But yes, maybe it’s just a question of time.

        • Replies: @niceland
      69. Mefobills says:

        there is nothing in nature that is racist save humans who can attack a specialized group of humans on their speciality.

        Explain to us all how Catholic Irish did not care for Protestant Irish?

        People are tribal… this is a consequence of evolution. This tribalism is always going to be an ingroup-outgroup. That said, RACE is the biggest marker for in-group behavior. Our Jewish friends have techniques they use to signal to each other if they are members of the tribe.

        Will you side with your race when you are in prison, or will you deny your nature, and hang out with a different racial group instead. How about school cafeterias, don’t the races usually segregate naturally?

        It seems to be only whites that split hairs about race.. the brown, black and yellows of the world don’t suffer from pathological altruism, and DO have racial consciousness for their own type.

        It does not occur to whites that other groups may be sufficiently different that their thought patterns are not the same. Whites project onto the “other” assuming the other is exactly the same. This is why whites are the least racist group of peoples.

        there is ONE human species

        There are bird groups that can interbreed, and create viable offspring. These bird groups CHOOSE not to interbreed. Yet, these bird groups are classified as different species.

        This whole idea of speciation is specious. If a group is left long enough in isolation, it becomes unique to itself. If you breed with it, you do not necessarily get hybrid vigor, but instead get dysgenics. The offspring is less healthy, less smart, less fast, and so on.

        Australian Aborigines vs African Negroes have the greatest genetic distance of any two races, despite looking similar. It would not be a good idea to breed these two racial types together, as they “were” already on a path of speciation (where eventually they could not breed to produce viable offspring).

        Drugs that can target individual races are do-able (now or near future). See below link:

        About 41 minutes in, the science of race differences and virus targeting is discussed:

      70. Robjil says:
        @Anonymous

        Perhaps this is the reason that the ZUS and its vassals is pushing multi-culturism so much. ZUS thinks multi-culturism protects it from any specific race or ethnic based bio attack.

        ZUS has bio labs all over the world. Thus, it can also attack also livestock and agriculture with bio-weapons. The pigs and chickens in China has been already attacked by a bio-weapon or a “miraculous” bio virus that only attacks China’s livestock.

        ZUS if it is doing this, we live then in a Zion Stone Age, an irrational barbaric age. Similar to what happened in the Tanakh/Old testament times.

        • Replies: @Desert Fox
      71. Taiwan No.1!
        Both Korea No.2!
        Japan No.3!
        China No.4!

      72. @Mefobills

        none of that proves or can prove anything but one race. all you list, discuss are derived from human/enviropment relations…human survival in planetary environmental nieches they walked into and lived for very long periods of time

        all you list can come fron and do come from regular routine human evolutionayr life, changng all the time, adjusting all the time, evolving all the time. no one is the same from day to day. there is no law and can be no law in evolutioary life save the law of change. as WallaceThornhill argues there are long term habits in and of nature but there is no law in nature at all. if you cant change and adjust all the time, miniute to hour to day and week and month and years… you will go extinct

        all you refer to as racial markers signify nothng but human evolutionary change and adjustment and development of response that aid suvival..ALL OF IT!

        If I lived long enough I would bet you a lot of money that if you took some Irish and stuck them nto an african populatuion they wouldmerge in 100 years and became just like what they merged into..and not what they were when they joined but who they are then, over a century having changed thenmselves adding and substracting…from the start of the 100 years to year 100.

        all they smell, all their response would then be consistent with the group they bacame a part of. and the fact that can happen means they are all human..one race/species.

        NO MATTER THE POINTS OF BIOLOGICAL SPECIALIZATION THEY COME..NO MATTER HOW OPPOSITE. PEOPLE CAN MERGE AND BECOME ONE…LIKE THE ONE THEY WERE ORIGINALLY BACK IN THE OLD DARKLAND BEFORE THEY MOVED AND SPREAD OUT OVER THE PLANET

        life forms cannot merge as humans do, easily, no problem at all..no enhancements and adjustments of any kind and nature necessary. am sure that medical technology can now cross species with all along the line..but a horse and a pig cant do it naturally…they are different species.

        but humans can..and do all the time. that is becuse we are one speices. end of argument

        • Replies: @d.deacon
        , @Mefobills
      73. @Anonymous

        This is why if the US is behind it, it is the height of foolishness. How do you specifically target Chinese people without targeting South Koreans and Japanese as well? It would certainly help drive them into an alliance with China, which is the last thing any of the Western Powers want.

      74. macilrae says:

        When I get a lab report for blood-work, there is a measurement of creatinine which gauges kidney function – furthermore, this measurement enables an estimate to be made of the glomerular filtration rate (eGFR): where a nice high number spells healthy kidneys. After the measurement there’s a compressed version of the following statement:

        “Assume an American white and an African American have the same serum creatinine level, are at the same age and weight, if the American white gets a GFR value 65 mL/min/1.73㎡, the African American gets a GFR value 78.65 mL/min/1.73㎡.
        In a word, there’s a modification for African American in the calculation of GFR.”

        However there have evidently been complaints and some labs are dropping mention of this and there has even been an effort to come up with a race-blind measure of creatinine clearance.

        https://clincalc.com/kinetics/crcl.aspx
        https://healthtopquestions.com/egfr-for-african-american/

        • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
      75. d.deacon says:
        @ben sampson

        100 years?
        so explain to me why Hispanic whites haven’t yet mixed completely with Amerindians.

        • Replies: @JohnPlywood
      76. Anon[362] • Disclaimer says:

        That would seem to be the case. From a macro point of view, we have to note that China is no longer concerned with the Hong Kong rebellion, nor the Uiyghur PR fiasco. The government has hunkered down with a de facto marial law situation, but without the blowback of the standard counterrevolutionary stance. While a communist state is ill-equipped to play the victim card, nonetheless the current political problems are no longer an issue for the central government. The numbers would seem to indicate a somewhat virulent flu outbreak, with the old and vulnerable being primary victims. When we consider the state of Chinese medical care, as well as the high levels of pollution due to the typical communist attitude toward the environment, one can only consider this a political response to a common medical problem in a grossly polluted environment. The only notation here is that the numbers must be far less than the government is willing to pay as a price for industrialization. Obviously there are plenty more Chinamen to replace the losses, which are trivial in the scheme of things for a communist state. Mao eliminated an estimated 78 million excess citizens. The present government is not up to 1000 yet. As all citizens are owned by the state in China, the cost per body with 1.5 billion members is trivial. This is mostly a PR move, as the legacy of Mao is to eliminate half the population if necessary. Westerners are just obsessed with apocalyptic media. The East has no such fear.

      77. @ben sampson

        There are 36 species of cats and 36 species of dogs.

        Why wouldn’t there be more than one species of human?

        there is ONE human species

        I disagree.

      78. d.deacon says:
        @ben sampson

        and there is ONE dog breed, right?

        explain why the diverse groups in the New World and South Africa haven’t mixed yet after hundreds of years of coexistence, btw. or why the caste system survives in India, or why the Han Chinese subjugate other nominally-Chinese.

        your divinized “law of change” actually selfcontradicts: some things stay the same (example, time and space moving forward, certain natural laws and trends, and God who starts/runs all of course) so changes can actually be noticed. otherwise, if change is absolutely constant, then due its total constancy it cannot be measured, save in how accelerated this change can be. like a flowing river, it accelerates to and fro with the tides, and no two drops of water are the same; but it is still the same river relative to our human eyes. ergo, in effect, while some genetics can be baked-in from evolutionary change up until recent times, some of these genes are so baked through matter and the eons in that they are like a constant relative to us. kind of like gravity, or the dna molecules.

        true, this reasoning means some evolutionary change is inevitable, as nature/time/space/Providence are not static; but, it also means that we could come to terms with these environmental/nurture aspects and ride and/or affect them, so they doesn’t collide with our more baked-in traits so much. Meaning, some people will inevitably breed interracial kids or go sterile, and God revealed us (eventually) that all nations can come to adore him; but likewise, the same God and/or natural/evolutionary trends make most people desire to breed with others more similar to themselves, in order to both propagate the species as whole, and maintain all of God’s particular nations alive in the process. For, if we aren’t to hate other races, why would we not want to propagate ours too? He did not want a Tower of Babel.

        (And even viewing it from a secular lens, you might argue that some people need malaria protection, others need sickle cell protection, others want to be adapted to dairy, others want to avoid peanut allergies or Tay-Sachs, others want to be more musical, and so on…)

        • Replies: @ben sampson
      79. @ben sampson

        Blacks have a 47 percent greater risk of MS than whites, while Hispanics and Asians have a 58 percent and 80 percent lower risk than whites. The higher risk in blacks is seen only in women, while the lower risk for Hispanics and Asians is seen in both sexes. Black women have triple the risk of MS that black men do. Seventy percent of MS cases occur among females. However, this preponderance of females diagnosed is more pronounced among black women than white women.

        But race does not exist, so this makes absolutely no sense.

        • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
        • Replies: @ben sampson
        , @ben sampson
      80. Wuhan supposedly has deployed 5G everywhere in the city. can 5G cause viruses to mutate ? Does 5G weaken immune systems , and could China’s widespread deployment of 5G be weakening their immune systems ?

      81. @Alfred

        This was a class 4 level biolab. Contrary to what the media or the CDC, or the government may say about these types of labs they are there for only one reason and that’s to experiment with “weapon grade microbes.”

        There is a very good chance that this was an accident. They were working on a strain of this virus from their own populations and when trying to modify it, it somehow escaped from the facility. There are number of ways that this could have happened and I won’t go into them here but Chinese Cell Scientists are known in the industry as RECKLESS! Remember the Crispr gene editing fiasco that didn’t work out like the Chinese geneticists said it did!

        There is a cover up on all sides from the Chinese government to WHO and including our own CDC. If you look at many of these so called outbreaks including Ebola you should realize there always seems to be a biolab near by. Just coincidence?

      82. Anon[392] • Disclaimer says:

        I’ve been researching this. People with more ACE 2 receptors are more vulnerable to Coronavirus, because the virus uses this receptor as a pathway into the body.

        You will develop more ACE 2 receptors if you 1) Smoke, 2) Live in an environment with heavily polluted air, and 3) Have Diabetes type 2 that is not under control.

        Half of all Chinese men smoke. Southeast Asian men have among the highest smoking rates on the planet. Eastern China has very polluted air. The new middle class that has arisen in China in the last generation or two has enough money to eat the crappy diet characteristic of the Western World, and their rates of Diabetes type 2 has risen in sync with this. People of Asian ancestry get Diabetes type 2 at a higher rate than Whites do if they are exposed to a Western diet. Amerindians, who are of Asian descent, have the same trait.

        Uncontrolled or poorly controlled Diabetes type 2 has a direct effect on the immune system, and it suppresses the body’s ability to fight off viruses. There’s a direct correlation here. People with diabetes get colds more often and have trouble getting over them. They stay sick longer than normal people.

        That, in a nutshell, is your ethnic difference.

        • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
        , @Anon
      83. anonymous[227] • Disclaimer says:

        That may be the stupidest remark in this thread.
        Which is quite the accomplishment.

      84. @macilrae

        Ha! I get a “full board” lab per my doctor once in a year or two, and I’ve read the very same thing. Thanks for the reminder, Macilrae (both to get another one and of a very good point).

        BTW, if they want to do a “race-blind” report than I guess they’ll need to have the nurse, phlebotomist, or what-have-you put down your race, so the computer can do the calculation. Otherwise, someone’s gonna get burned by BS lab results.

      85. @Anon

        There are lots of good points here in the comments. I don’t study medicine (it’a really something I don’t like to think about), so I don’t know your bit about the ACE receptors. I have known quite a while about the prevalence of Type II Diabetes in China.

        You are right about the diet. In the south half of China, at least, people do not consider anything a meal if it isn’t sitting on top of a cup of white rice. The white rice has a very high GI (Glycemic Index), even higher than potatoes, which gives the body a lot of sugar in a hurry. That’s bad and not at all helpful in avoiding Diabetes if one is genetically prone to it (notice the genetics again).

        I don’t know if it’s half the men in China who smoke, but it is a much larger proportion than in the US at this point.

        The way to see if your point is valid would to study how the Chinese/SE Asian people living in the US do in fighting off this virus and others, as the 2nd generation eat more of an American diet, don’t suck in the heavy particulate pollution, and probably have the low prevalence of smoking as Americans (maybe lower).

      86. @Adam Smith

        I dont see this as the last word on causation of MS..far from it!

        • Replies: @Adam Smith
      87. Anon[280] • Disclaimer says:
        @Anon

        These are all variants known to positively influence the amount of ACE2-expressing cells. The East Asians are the most vulnerable to SARS and nCoV. The Europeans and Africans are the safest.


        [MORE]

        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/snp/rs233575
        East Asian A=1.00
        African A=0.988
        South Asian A=0.82
        American A=0.79
        Europe A=0.66

        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/snp/rs714205
        East Asian G=0.54
        South Asian G=0.47
        American G=0.30
        Europe G=0.20
        African G=0.101

        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/snp/rs1978124
        East Asian C=0.99
        African C=0.900
        South Asian C=0.78
        American C=0.71
        Europe C=0.53

        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/snp/rs879922
        East Asian G=0.96
        South Asian G=0.71
        American G=0.72
        Europe G=0.65
        African G=0.454

        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/snp/rs2048683
        East Asian G=0.99
        African G=0.807
        South Asian G=0.80
        American G=0.75
        Europe G=0.65

        ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/snp/rs1877752
        East Asian C=0.98
        South Asian C=0.71
        American C=0.71
        Europe C=0.64
        African C=0.453

        • Replies: @OscarWildeLoveChild
      88. @d.deacon

        you guys so do not want to be ‘not derived from original African’ your palpable desperation makes little you say to the contrary, all your individual opinions suspect and not worthy of any real consideration

        and I do not. I am not even concerned by scientific taxonomy as it currently stands. we go by them because fo far its the best way we have. we are working but nowhere near the last on anythng at all.

        we do not even know where we are and cannot say what accurate quantity of the knowledge of the universe and of what exists on the earth we now possess

        I go by what I experience and reason out based on experience, the content of life around me. I see all the time physical forms ansd shapes in men and women similar from all around the world. thats what I look for:

        I assume that if Africans are the original then there must be physical atributes in all other ethnic groups that hark back to current african forms that exist now ramifying from the past forward… and it does not appear that Africans are so far evolved physically from ancient times.

        I look around and see them all there..in all the the ethnic groups physical types that are very African

        but look people! I am not looking to be your father you know..the soruce of your origination. I am happy with my own self and kind. my father was an almost white man and he looked the white part. I look like my Black mother. I am good as I am..satisfied. and you all are free to be who you are.. and want to be..even if its not the truth. hahahahaha

        for me truth is important..and the the ‘out of Africa story’ seems quite plausable, and is standing the time test, despite the opposite, racaus, ruction going on here

      89. @Adam Smith

        by the way Adam Smith: I really appreciayte this contribution. I did not go that deeply into MS but I will do a bit more digging now. this is very useful to me

      90. Mefobills says:
        @ben sampson

        You missed the point. African and aboriginal peoples when coupled to produce children tend to only produce girls…if I remember correctly. Another 10000 years perhaps no viable offspring would be possible or would only produce sterile offspring. The animal kingdom operates in this way and humans are animals too.

        If you are mixed race then your biology is a strong predictor of behavior. Race differences do matter when large populations are the dataset.

        A mulatto population in South Africa would have a different output than if it were 100 percent Bantu.

      91. Sunshine says:
        @9/11 Inside job

        I can see that, but my immediate thought was that it’s going to be the way they force us into compulsory vaccination. Which of course, will be just a population control measure and mass poisoning. So I think it’s a two part depopulation plan.

        If it’s racist to avoid Chinese people, oh well. I wanted to buy a sweater from Amazon, but didn’t, because it’s made and shipped from China. Won’t have Chinese food either, or go to the Asian market. Why take the chance? I don’t care about anyone’s feelings, that’s their problem. It’s not like the non whites are falling all over themselves to not offend us. And I don’t dislike Asians, I’m pretty indifferent to positive about them. It is nice to see what I expected, be reality. Like SARS. It affects Asians. My husband (Anglo like me) was in Japan during SARS, and went all over Asia. He knew of no whites that got it. He thinks this is a similar situation, for what it’s worth.

      92. niceland says:
        @reiner Tor

        We have 3 published studies already indicating very high death rate from 5-20% depending how you look at the figures.

        Here is my short summary of two of them going on in Wuhan in January over 2-3 weeks as the sick piled up, both were stopped before the the final verdict was in for all the patients.

        Total in both studies: 237 patients
        Recovered 33%
        Dead – 7%
        Still hospitalized 60%
        Patients taken into intensive care: 25%

        Notice the recovered/dead ratio of 4,7 or over 20% death rate. Something that could also be the case for the remaining hospitalized. Also of note is it doesn’t seem like these are only selected bad, or worst cases. Included in the numbers is for example 40 of the medical staff in one hospital who got infected and many recovered without sever symptoms. It doesn’t really matter how you look at these numbers they are very bad.
        Links to these two studies:
        https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2761044
        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30211-7/fulltext#tbl1
        And one more from december
        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext

        Then we have this about the actual death rate:
        WHO says 82% of infected only get ‘mild’ symptoms. So the rest get either serious or critical. So what happens to them? Well according to one source – almost all of them die;
        https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-08-do-the-math-china-press-conference-admits-coronavirus-mortality-17-percent.html

        So it seems this virus is quite deadly, on par with SARS or even worse. What about the spread?

        This is the Vice Dean from Imperial College in London in interview from few days ago. He is basically saying the official number from China underestimate numbers of infected by order of magnitude, or more.

        And now the director of the WHO saying -in reference to the official numbers (who don’t make any sense if you dig into them) ‘We might only be seeing the tip of the Iceberg’.

        So it appears we have both very deadly and highly contagious virus on our hands – consistent with the enormous effort seen in China trying to curb it’s spread.

        In summary, I don’t care if Asians are more prone to infection than others – if the death rate is anywhere near what it appears to be – the difference between races won’t matter much. What we are seeing around the world could be the calm before the storm. It’s rather likely actually.

        • Replies: @macilrae
      93. The only reason the virus is killing exclusively Chinese people is because the outbreak is (thankfully) almost entirely confined to China at the moment. And as I said in the last thread,

        “China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese.”

        —Charles de Gaulle

        There is your racist virus right there.

        Articles like this one are nothing but a high pitch of irresponsible nonsense, and this “Lance Welton” fellow is an execrable worm. Surfing the wave of panic propagating from the corona virus—which is a serious matter, but is also 95% hype and not particularly dangerous—and using it as a cudgel wherewith to flog a dubious race-realist hobbyhorse, is both preposterous and disgusting.

        No, it is not an engineered bioweapon. No, it was not released into the environment by human agency, either accidentally or deliberately. It is an exotic common cold that is bumping off 2% of the elderly and infirm people who catch it, like influenza does year after year. Sad, but hardly unusual.

        The fact that no non-Chinese people have died is due to the rather heroic steps China is taking to contain the infection. China deserves our prayers and our gratitude, not our racial navel-gazing.

        • Replies: @utu
        , @Dave Bowman
      94. joe2.5 says:

        Even without having all the data and without any calculations, I’ll wager based on the few numbers seen on the net that the numbers of non-Chinese subjects exposed and diseased so far is insufficient to draw any conclusion that might support your statements.

        These baseless (as yet) theories are not any better than the political scaremongering by the public health authorities, who are supposed to have some notions of epidemiology, or from the absurdity of denying known genetic biological differences, either.

        • Agree: 22pp22
      95. @d.deacon

        They have. Hispanic “whites” almost always have an Amerindian haplogroup and a combined total of around 10% DNA that isn’t found in Euros, unless we’re talking about groups that only got to Latin America within the last 130-200 years or so, when Amerindians had laregely disappeared from some given areas (as in Argentinians and some southern Brazilians).

      96. macilrae says:
        @niceland

        I have been watching the course of the disease among those cases outside China, reasoning that, there, patients will generally receive optimal care and certainly a great deal of study – the death rate as of today is 1/307. Another person died in HK but that was included in the China numbers.

        I confess I hadn’t factored in the now apparent probability of a genetic factor which disadvantages Chinese people – the morbidity and mortality in China is truly horrific and I had assumed that this was due to inadequate resources and data gathering. I am deeply ashamed at how our governments are reacting here in the west.

        A very scary fact is that Indonesia, with its huge population and massive Chinese tourism (Bali especially), has yet to report a case.

        • Replies: @niceland
        , @Dave Bowman
      97. utu says:
        @Intelligent Dasein

        Articles like this one are nothing but a high pitch of irresponsible nonsense, and this “Lance Welton” fellow is an execrable worm. Surfing the wave of panic propagating from the corona virus—which is a serious matter, but is also 95% hype and not particularly dangerous—and using it as a cudgel wherewith to flog a dubious race-realist hobbyhorse, is both preposterous and disgusting.

        Agree that this “Lance Welton” fellow is an execrable worm. Always was and always will.

        95% hype – We do not know how much hype there is. The scale of Chinese response is huge. Many cities and tens of millions of Chinese are on lockdown. Do Chinese government react to hype? Overreact? No. They know what they are doing and they seem to be fighting against unprecedented disaster that may bring China down. They need our sympathy and compassion. Unfortunately too many deplorables here all they can express is an ugly Schadenfreude. Very sad. Disgusting.

        • Agree: niceland
      98. Technically there is only one human race, as humans today are 99.9% genetically identical even though physical appearances differ from one person to another. Most of the genetic differences that do exist are due to gender and unique individual traits.

        Compared with other species, humans are very similar to one other. In the case of chimpanzees, genetic variation is two to three times more significant than in humans. In orangutans it is eight to ten times more significant. In the past, scientists attempted to divide the human race into multiple groups, however, most modern biological anthropologists agree that there isn’t enough variation in humans to justify defining unique biological races, varieties or sub-species.

        https://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/contributors/2017/09/04/there-only-one-race-human-race/607985001/

      99. niceland says:
        @macilrae

        I agree, presumably the people diagnosed with the virus outside of China are likely to be in decent health. Tourists, business people, workers, embassy staff etc. and should have better than average chances of beating the virus. So their mortality rate should be lower than average.

        Then there is the obvious time lag. People can carry this virus up to two weeks without showing symptoms while infecting others. We are seeing this already in case from the U.K. Also after people get sick they can survive for 2-3 weeks in ICU before they die. So we will have to wait and see what happens but at this point death rates outside of China are unknown and bound to get higher.

        • Replies: @macilrae
      100. @melpol

        Smart genes will be quickly transferred to the sub-Saharan population.

        Why now? Why hasn’t that been happening for centuries?
        That smart gene is Ashkenazic. African Jews, Sephardics, do not have high IQs.

      101. Adûnâi says:
        @utu

        “that may bring China down. They need our sympathy and compassion. Unfortunately too many deplorables here all they can express is an ugly Schadenfreude. Very sad. Disgusting.”

        Why would non-Chinese be sad if China is destroyed? Do you understand the concept of separate identities? Or are you on drugs mumbling about how “we are one with the world”?

      102. Adûnâi says:
        @Alfred

        “Is it not now reasonable to suppose that this virus was deliberately made to harm Chinese people?”

        This is a fascinating idea. Because if the CIA have indeed been behind this, they must understand that bringing China down will also mean the collapse of the capitalists system worldwide! And that means that César Tort is wrong – the Federal Reserve Jews are not as stupid, just the opposite – there is a mysterious elite hiding in the shadows and pulling the strings in the background according to some conspired plan.

        Of course, this does not make the message on the Georgia Guidestones real – if they want to cull the population, why vaccinate all the Negroes? Why exterminate smallpox and poliomyelitis?

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

      103. @utu

        They need our sympathy and compassion.

        That’s fine on a personal level. What a lot of the fuss has been about on-line is in telling the Americans that they shouldn’t be “raciss” and “xenophobic” in cutting off travel for a while. That’s about one proper function of the US government (that it hasn’t been doing in a long time), controlling what/who comes into the country.

        Another fuss has been about whether the Chinese government is over-controlling the information flow about the disease, making it difficult to find out how bad a problem it is. (See John Derbyshire’s latest article on this.) Yes, there’s a whole lot of confusion due to the way things run in China, so it’s a pretty legitimate thing to write about.

        Unfortunately too many deplorables here all they can express is an ugly Schadenfreude.

        I haven’t seen a whole lot of that, and I’ve been reading hundreds of comments on unz regarding this virus. This one, for instance, is not at all shadenfreude, but an interesting theory, not proven by any means, that leads to our wondering if this is like the AIDS thing, with lots of us being hoodwinked to worry for nothing (in the former case, non homos/drug users).

        I guess people writing in from China don’t like it when Americans speculate on ANYTHING. Tough shit!

      104. What statistics on Coronavirus infections and deaths can you trust ? Do a Google search on corruption at WHO, CDC and NIH and you will find any number of articles , in many cases these institutions are in the business of selling vaccines and conducting research on poor people in Third World countries .
        It is well established that the governments has deliberately exaggerated the number of deaths in the UK and the US from the flu in order to sell more doses of vaccines , see for example :

        bmj.com “Government exaggerates flu mortality AGAIN , why cannot the public be trusted with the truth?”

        huffingtonpost.ca :”Don’t believe everything you read about flu deaths ”
        According to the BMJ article “…the Government is blaming all excess Winter mortality to the flu , to the tune of more than 50,ooo deaths …when in an exceptionally bad year …the number would only have been in the region of 335-340 deaths .”
        I believe that the bottom line is that you cannot believe any of the statistics being published by a Government or quasi-government agency . The question is : what is their agenda in promulgating these exaggerated statistics ?

        • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
        , @Alfred
      105. @9/11 Inside job

        bmj.com

        : “Are US flu death figures more PR than science?”
      106. Alfred says:
        @9/11 Inside job

        “…the (UK) Government is blaming all excess Winter mortality to the flu , to the tune of more than 50,ooo deaths …when in an exceptionally bad year …the number would only have been in the region of 335-340 deaths .”

        The reason for the increase in winter is because more and more people cannot afford to heat their homes. Of course, that is something that all governments are loath to admit.

        There were 50,100 excess deaths in England and Wales last winter, when there was a prolonged spell of extreme cold, making it the highest number since 1976, figures have shown.

        The Office for National Statistics said flu and the ineffectiveness of the flu vaccine were key reasons for the rise of excess winter deaths in 2017-18.

        The deaths occurred during the NHS’s most serious “winter crisis” for many years. A lack of staff and beds meant all types of health services, particularly hospitals, were unable to cope with both the number of patients needing treatment and the severity of many of their conditions.

        Women and people aged over 85 were among those most likely to die last winter, although the rate of winter deaths among males aged up to 64 doubled in just a year, the ONS found. A third of the deaths were due to serious breathing difficulties, including flu, asthma and bronchitis.
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        The 50,100 excess deaths were about 15,000 (45.1%) more than those that occurred in 2016-17 and double the total in 2015-16

        Excess winter deaths in England and Wales highest since 1976

        • Replies: @9/11 Inside job
      107. @ben sampson

        I nominate mycoplasma as the real cause of demyelination.

        (Prove me wrong and I will send you 10 Billion Dollars!)

        Mycoplasma is a well known cause of many “auto-immune” disorders.

        85% of patients with ALS (“Lou Gehrig’s disease”) test positive for systemic mycoplasma infections, and most of those infections involve M. fermentans and/or M. hominis.

        I would not be so quick to absolve radon gas, especially in south western Ontario, as a cofactor.

        I would seriously consider viral infection. Accumulating evidence over the years supports the role of infectious agents, particularly viruses, in the etiopathogenesis of MS. Among these, Epstein–Barr virus seems to be a strong candidate as a risk factor. MS risk is higher among individuals with history of mononucleosis or who experienced an Epstein-Barr infection in childhood.

        Were your friends chronic vaxxers?

        Were your friends recently vaccinated before the onset of their symptoms?

        A French study on demyelination in childhood showed that Engérix B® vaccine administration was associated with an increased trend of confirmed MS after 3 years.

        ANSM – This organization that identifies spontaneous adverse event reports emerged in the aftermath of vaccinations since the beginning of the establishment of HB immunization (1981). The most common diseases reported were neurological damages of myelin, known under the generic term of demyelinating diseases. This condition is clinically called MS when at least two attacks of demyelination repeat themselves.

        The problem of the emergence of post-vaccine MS had been widely publicized in the years 1996–1999. Thereafter, over the years, this problem has been trivialized or forgotten. Since this period, underreporting became more important. People who have been victims of adverse events have not necessarily reminded the physician of the injection of a HB vaccine some weeks or months before. Most likely the physician would not report an adverse vaccination event anyway. It is estimated that only 1% or 2% of adverse events caused by a vaccine are reported to VAERS. While 37% of healthcare providers have identified at least one adverse event after vaccination, only 17% have ever reported an adverse event to VAERS.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266455/

        Many vaccines are contaminated with mycoplasma. It would be expensive and difficult for pharmaceutical companies to keep their cell cultures (and finished products) free of mycoplasma.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3584481/

        • Replies: @ben sampson
        , @ben sampson
      108. Re-posting this from another thread since this one is more recent.

        Do we know for sure that everyone who has been identified as having caught this virus, or died from it, has actually tested positive for coronavirus? We do read that they’re monitoring temperature and then quarantining people based on that. But surely one can get a fever from a myriad of other illnesses. I have read of someone who was once identified as having had SARS just based on high temperature and location of travel origin. So if anyone who catches a fever and is from Wuhan or PR China, or has been in close contact with such, is now identified as potentially having coronavirus … is it so? Doesn’t seem very scientific, although I suppose it is precautionary. So yeah, is it as bad as they say?

      109. JRB says:
        @Rahan

        Thanks for the link to the article by James Lyons-Weiler. I agree that hypothesis 4 makes sense.

      110. anonymous[325] • Disclaimer says:
        @Rahan

        The only reason that sounds logical to me for mainland Chinese people getting hit harder than anyone else in the world, is them being compromised by SARS vaccination in the past.
        Check out “hypothesis 4” here:
        https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/
        Also back in the day people warned China to not rush the SARS vaccine through, due to this exact risk. https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4417-china-to-give-first-sars-vaccine-to-people/

        Very interesting. Thanks. I hadn’t heard about this.

        From 2003

        “A vaccine may well show no immediate problems in people,” says Albert Osterhaus, of Erasmus University in the Netherlands, who is testing candidate vaccines in animals, including a whole killed virus.

        But there could be trouble later, he says, because of immune enhancement. This effect means the long-term response of the immune system to the vaccine, instead of protecting, causes worse disease upon infection.

        “It is not enough to show monkeys are protected in the short term,” he says. “You have to challenge them with the virus again months later, to make sure the vaccine has not skewed their immune systems so they develop even worse disease.”

        . . .

        “I hope the Chinese scientists have investigated this issue,” says Michael Lai, vice president of Taiwan’s Academia Sinica, who is coordinating Taiwan’s effort to develop SARS vaccines. “Without such knowledge it is dangerous to conduct large-scale clinical trials.”

        But Chinese scientists at meetings on SARS at the WHO in Geneva in October did not report such studies, say scientists who were there. They are also unlikely to have had time to do them – Sinovac started work on the vaccine in April.

        https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4417-china-to-give-first-sars-vaccine-to-people/

        2012

        Conclusions

        These SARS-CoV vaccines all induced antibody and protection against infection with SARS-CoV. However, challenge of mice given any of the vaccines led to occurrence of Th2-type immunopathology suggesting hypersensitivity to SARS-CoV components was induced. Caution in proceeding to application of a SARS-CoV vaccine in humans is indicated.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3335060/

        Lyons-Weiler

        If the Chinese government has been conducting human trials against SARS. MERS, or other coronviruses using recombined viruses, they may have made their citizens far more susceptible to acute respiratory distress syndrome upon infection with 2019-nCoV coronavirus.

        The implications are clear: if China sensitized their population via a SARS vaccine, and this escaped from a lab, the rest of world has a serious humanitarian urgency to help China, but may not expect as serious an epidemic as might otherwise be expected.

        In the worst-case scenario, if the vaccination strain is more highly contagious and lethal, 2019-nCoV could become the worst example of vaccine-derived contagious disease in human history. With an uncharacteristic aysmptomatic prodromal period of 5-7 days, individuals returning from China to other countries must be forthright and cooperative in their now-prescribed 2-week quarantine.

        https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/

        • Replies: @anonymous
      111. @Mefobills

        Never really, really thought about the fact that Aboriginals and Africans were more than likely on the path to actual speciation. But, it make sense given the time both groups spent in environmental isolation from one another. As to their looking the same — I think the the Melanesians look more like Africans than many Aboriginals. And I don’t mean hapas. I have seen photos in a worked entitled: Homo Erectus Walks Among Us, of pure Aboriginals with straight dirty blond hair. Also I think their skull shapes are quite different.

        As to Homo Erectus Walks Among Us, despite the provocative title, I don’t think the author was arguing that any Africans are an actual different. I think his point was that modern humans had a Eurasian origin not an African origin. I only got a copy after reading a review of it by Jared Taylor. In his review Taylor certainly didn’t defend the author’s Out of Eurasia hypothesis. Instead Taylor praise the work for providing a good introduction to how evolution works as applied to the human genus. Your video link was very informative and frightening.

      112. anon[645] • Disclaimer says:

        White woman who contracted the virus aboard a cruise ship says she feels fine. Symptoms “extremely mild”. Husband still doesn’t have the virus. There may indeed be a racial component to this. Sad the media can’t acknowledge this or shouts down those who point it out. Otherwise, maybe some white / black volunteers could go to China and help out with food distribution. White Man’s Burden, but it is what it is.

      113. @Adam Smith

        I did not dismiss Radon as a factor..just presenting one position on the case against Radon. relative to myself I have not come down with anything for 50 years in the situation so I imagine I had/have no weakenss or propensity to MS.. and incurred no damage that could have provided a pathway to infection

        and for the past 25 years or so I have totally refused to be vaxxed for any reason at all

        one of my friends come to think of it could have had a vaccination prior… but it would have been a duration of at least 3 years between vaxx and MS onset: which would fall right into this frame:

        “A French study on demyelination in childhood showed that Engérix B® vaccine administration was associated with an increased trend of confirmed MS after 3 years”

        he did go through an official process that could have required him to be vaxxed.

        {hold the 10 billion! I will choose a charity soon for you to give it to… soon! hahahaha}

      114. @Alfred

        It’s a disgrace that people in the UK are dying during the Winter because they cannot afford to heat their homes , I am sure that the same goes for the US . The statistics on flu deaths are being deliberately manipulated and exaggerrated by “Big pharma” to sell probably worthless vaccines .As the Daily Mail reported :” Big pharma is thriving off the flu…panic over this year’s flu drove sales up for all manufacturers . ”
        In the US “Big pharma continues to top lobbying spending “opensecrets.org and also writes bills that are passed by Congress ,see billmoyers.com “The lobbyist who made you pay more at the drugstore .”
        In fact the scare over the Coronavirus in the US is being used to sell the flu vaccine .

        • Replies: @RadicalCenter
      115. @anon

        This doesn’t even remotely counter anything in my comment.

      116. @onebornfree

        Of course it was evil to let people conceive children and then murder the children in the womb. Agreed wholeheartedly there.

        But a program of mandatory sterilization or contraception would have been a sensible alternative that did not involve the murder of human beings already in existence as elective abortion is.

        Should China have waited and watched as their people instead lived even more overcrowded, filthy, polluted, unhealthy lives due to further overpopulation? Let the population soar to two or three billion and then watch them die horrible painful deaths from starvation or thirst? Let them double the population yet again and then savage each other fighting for the resultant inadequate supplies of food and water?

        I agree that the mandatory abortion policy was evil. But if not mandatory sterilization and contraception, what would your solution have been for the Chinese people? Attacking the sick solution they chose is appropriate, but only half of the needed discussion. What’s the second half, I.e. an alternative solution?

        • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
      117. @melpol

        It might finally be safe to visit Baltimore again.

      118. @9/11 Inside job

        As well as masks and respirators. Hey, we bought some. We have children. Better to have and not need, than need and not have.

      119. Looks like China will be brought down by vile eating habits.

        The revenge of nature.

        If foul homo-fecal penetration wiped out so many homos, disgusting eating habits are gonna kill many many Chinese and even bring down the whole system.

        Don’t mess with nature.

        • Replies: @ben sampson
      120. De Doc says:

        Um, Mr. Welton? You are aware that this particular strain, 2019-nCoV, came from a bat? Many viruses are very promiscuous in infecting across species and this is one of them. I don’t think this Corona Virus will differentiate much between human race groups, when it arose in bats. Frankly I’m shocked that there aren’t more cases popping up, but abundant, continued caution is warranted to contain, isolate and prevent a pandemic. The USPHS seems to have moved quickly on this one, so I’ll give them the nod for a good job so far.

      121. macilrae says:
        @niceland

        presumably the people diagnosed with the virus outside of China are likely to be in decent health. Tourists, business people, workers, embassy staff etc. and should have better than average chances of beating the virus.

        Also after people get sick they can survive for 2-3 weeks in ICU before they die.

        Yes, these are very valid points which help support (today’s) 1/319 mortality. The reported % new cases in China, both in total and by province, have generally declined steadily since February 2nd. The mortality too, but slower. But under those hellish conditions it would be so hard for anybody to extract good numbers.

      122. @Priss Factor

        that is sure to turn out to be nonsense! it is bound to turn out to be a western biological attack on China that will teach China all the lessons China needs to learn once again.

        China has become capitalist and globalist and open to the world. that is suicide as we are observing right now..an open China dependednt on word trade and open to all manner of infiltration, bending over to US provocation to save its markets. so China has been infiltrated and by indications has been poisoned catastrophically.

        well China has to end its globalization, develop an independent nation/economy that is self sufficient, and trades not as life-blood, but by surplus and quality, so that if markets dry up it matters not to Chinas prosperity which would be dependent on the Chinese and their internal market.

        all that goes on now with China relative to other nations can go on but not in the same dependent way…like America can sanction other countries to harm China etc.

        in a self reliant economy there will be no interdependence that harms China if it dries up. China would be able to carry on any domestic policy it deems in its favor regardless of western concerns. and if China locks down its country to keep out the west and their insidious infiltrations so be it.

        and if you have 1.4 billion people, are scientifically and technologically advanced…why, and how in the hell cant you carry on a developng and independent self reliant economy?

        Paul Craig Roberts had been warning about this for a long time..that China is too open, too bending over backwards to the west,..that the west would take it as weakness every time China took a backward step, and intensify their attack. the world is too inter-dependent in a corporate way..from the top down. it is all knitted together by the UN and its laws and agencies that gives the hegemon the power to sanction and control everybody

        and China has jumped into that totally disadvantageous game..advantage the west and the hegemon…rather than working to break the whole dam thing down and start again.. on more fair and democratic principles

        I dont know about Jing Ping and his cohort but I always thought they were fools, and that Mao was crying in his grave relative to the turns China has taken under Jing Ping’s leadership. China is producing billionaires by the day. what will those billionaires do to protect themselves if not imprison Chinese like the western billioanaires do…who now imprison us all here in the west.

        China has been moving back to pre-Mao revolutionary times, under elitist leadership and exploitation. and if they are so capitalist now they cant learn the lesson in this Coronavious development they are toast. hopefully they learn for all our sakes.

        and the Chinese ought remove Jing Ping as leader. he is too capitalist..way too blind to the truth of te west to lead his people effectively, to keep them safe. too much negative, increasingly, catastrophically negative, has been happening to China under his watch. what the hell is this!!!! how well is he protecting his nation, leading his nation… if this can happen under his leadership?

        Ridiculous! it is time for change in China! the Chinese must smarten up or they will be reduced back to the 19th century

        • Agree: Nonny Mouse
      123. @Adam Smith

        but isnt mycoplasmas a creation of western reaseach and development…a biological weapon?

        • Replies: @Adam Smith
      124. AceDeuce says:
        @Mefobills

        “Explain to us all how Catholic Irish did not care for Protestant Irish?”

        Reminds me of this:

        “When I gave a speech in Northern Ireland, a man in the audience asked me my religion. I replied that I was an atheist.

        A woman in the audience then stood up and said, ‘Yes, but is it the God of the Catholics or the God of the Protestants in which you don’t believe?”

        Quentin Crisp

      125. @Alfred

        Ender’s Game…

        Humanity is at War. Always has been and always will be. Darwinism through a recent PC culture in the West has shifted the prosperity of the fittest [Winning] from the individual to the 1% and the government. The Deep State does not give a sh*t about you or the US Constitution.

        To kill your enemy with kindness is sometimes the perfect red herring. In fact, our recent nice guy Xi and Trump trade wars brings this to MSM language.

        Follow the money trail!

        The good ole’ USA can not afford to have the Yuan become the global reserve currency. The USA also knows China has been stealing everything and anything that hasn’t been nailed down for the past three decades, and to win the global dominance game this has to stop.

        The militarization and the Silk Road need to come to an end without firing a shot. How do you do this?

        In the same way the Iranians didn’t expect their elite general to be taken out.. the Chinese did not expect a Trojan horse.

        My play book says, if I know my enemy has stolen a bio-engineered virus from Canada by Chinese nationals, then why not exploit the situation?

        We [US 3 Letters] have someone on the inside working in Wuhan at the L4, or maybe someone that wants revenge, or we know that what was stolen ended up in Wuhan, and let’s leverage this as a perfect cover.

        Why not? China is weak. HK riots, swine flue, bank runs… The time is now.

        Releasing a bio virus killer into the wild was easy and untraceable. The perfect hit.

        The Chinese have lost the ability to invent. Their excellence is their ability to copy, and also their Achilles heel. The true inventors of humanity fringe on madness. To copy something verbatim is lifeless as it lacks the understanding of the genius that was compelled to bring it to fruition.

        It doesn’t matter if it was Nikola Tesla, Wernher von Braun or the Manhattan Project. The understanding is owned by the inventor(s).

        Meaning, a perfect genetically engineered bio weapon was released into China probably in early December or late October, and the Chinese can’t say it was the USA.

        The Chinese know all about it, and that is why they have reacted in such harsh and with extreme measures. This is a fight to the death. As no one talks about how many of their military personal have been infected. The focus is on the public. Those optics. [The US government knows it all. The true numbers. [The numbers that correlate to the crematorium plums.] And the reason why the USA is relaxed with our flight restrictions.

        How does this play out? I’ll say 500 Million by the time this virus runs its course. It will mutate. The Silk Road will come to an end. When the mutation impacts black Africans, that just happen to be very susceptible to Ebola, then that extension of the Silk Road will also come to a bloody end.

        Humanity needs a reset. We are lost as species, and China is the first domino.

        The USA isn’t ready for the Black Swan in return. The cosmic boomerang.

        And while the world burned, I’ll fiddle on my lyra. 🙂

      126. utu says:
        @Sum-Tin-Phishy

        Are you familiar with General Chi Haotian alleged speech?

        https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/#comment-3696253

        I read the speech of General Chi Haotian and it feels that it is fake, psyop or prank but it contains many interesting tidbits like this one:

        https://jrnyquist.blog/2019/09/11/the-secret-speech-of-general-chi-haotian/
        The Secret Speech of General Chi Haotian

        “Of the research done on genetic weapons throughout the world, Israel is the most advanced. Their genetic weapons are designed to target Arabs and protect the Israelis. But even they have not reached the stage of actual deployment. We have cooperated with Israel on some research. Perhaps we can introduce some of the technologies used to protect Israelis and remold these technologies to protect the yellow people. But their technologies are not mature yet, and it is difficult for us to surpass them in a few years. If it has to be five or ten years before some breakthrough can be achieved in genetic weapons, we cannot afford to wait any longer.”

        • Replies: @denk
        , @thetruth
      127. @ben sampson

        I’ve heard of weaponized mycoplasma, but I always assumed that mycoplasma was originally something found in nature. Something not created or synthesized. I did notice how a few years back everyone caught atypical pneumonia. Plenty of people got the 100 day cough and antibiotics did not seem to help. Was it a coincidence? Was it a weaponized mycoplasma added to the chemtrails to make everyone sick?

        Was Borrelia burgdorferi something that was originally found in nature? Was Borrelia burgdorferi weaponized in a lab on Plum Island? Was Borrelia burgdorferi some sort of thing created in a lab on Plum Island? These are things I have no way of truly knowing. It seems to me the Plum Island Animal Disease Center is the kind of place where they could do all sorts of nefarious bioweapons research. From 1952 to 1969, it was managed by the U.S. Army Chemical Corps as a component of its biological warfare program. Did they create Borrelia burgdorferi there? I don’t know.

        According to Wikipedia, who we all know chopped down the cherry tree and cannot tell a lie…

        In 1898, Nocard and Roux were the first to isolate a mycoplasma species in culture from bovine pleuropneumonia agent, now known as M. mycoides subsp. mycoides; however, it was not until 1944 when Mycoplasma pneumoniae, known then as Eaton’s agent, was isolated and described from a patient with primary atypical pneumonia.

        Some people consider mycoplasma a bacteria without a cell wall. I consider it something a little different than a bacteria. A different thing in its own right. It’s not a virus, it’s not a bacteria, it’s not a fungi, it’s not an amoeba… You get the idea.

        I’m under the impression that there are about 200 different species of mycoplasma that have been identified. Some are known to cause disease. They are notoriously difficult to cure as they are antibiotic resistant. Once mycoplasma gets into your blood it can cause fun things like chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia. Mycoplasma is the cause of rheumatoid arthritis. I would imagine it can, and probably does, cause MS.

        A few years back, the same year everyone else had it, I caught the mycoplasma while traveling around thanksgiving. I had the cough, took care of it and it went away. A few months later, in February, I was out splitting wood and threw out my back. No big deal I thought. I’ll walk it off, take it easy a few days.. I’ll be fine. I’m tall and it happens occasionally. Always gets better in a few days.

        A few days came and went but it was only getting worse. The infection evidently crossed from my blood to my hip. It was not going away. Thankfully I recognized it for what it was. Mullein tea helped some, but not enough. Ibuprofen 800 relieved pain a bit, but not really. It was definitely not a cure.

        The best way I have found to cure mycoplasma infection involves a red infrared heat lamp. Infrared therapy is helpful for many ailments. If I had MS I’d give it a try. Other people have found infrared therapy helpful for treating their multiple sclerosis.

        This is the kind of lamp I used. Nothing fancy.

        Mycoplasma starts to die when its temperature is over 103 degrees Fahrenheit. If you have a localized mycoplasma infection like I did it’s a lot easier to cure than if it is a systemic infection. Simply point the infrared lamp where it hurts.

        Be careful. Do not burn yourself. The bulb is very hot.

        Warm the area with the heat lamp and get it over 103 degrees. Keep the temperature there for 20 to 30 minutes for each therapy session, longer if you wish. If you do this everyday, once or twice a day, it will still take months to completely eliminate the mycoplasma. It is quite the resilient little bugger. Each session will provide relief, but the pain will return.

        One thing I found interesting about a mycoplasma infection it is that it will move. I would warm my hip with the light and it would feel better, but the infection would move to my knee, or my ankle, or my elbow. One time it even crossed over to the other hip. Then back again. So where ever it landed, I cooked it with the heat lamp. I did it about 20-30 minutes most days of the week. Little by little it got better. Persistence was key. What ever hurt, I cooked it with the lamp.

        According to this…

        https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00674934

        Observations from our research studies indicate that, far infrared rays provide energy to the body, improve the autonomic functions of the nervous system, restore the functions of the endocrine system, strengthen the immune system, improve blood circulation and increase the level of oxygen in the cells and promote the regeneration of muscle cells, nerves and brain cells.

        It is hereby postulated that irradiation using far infrared, with wavelength between 5 to 20 microns, of the central nervous system, the endocrine system and the whole body could prevent, control, manage or possibly lead to complete rehabilitation of people who have MS.

        I don’t know how their trial ended as I cannot find their results. Maybe all the participants died. Maybe they were all cured. Maybe infrared therapy is too cheap for a company like GAAD Medical Research Institute Inc to make money off of.

        I don’t know what kind of setup they used. Perhaps a simple heat lamp is not be enough. Maybe a full infrared sauna is more appropriate for treating someone will multiple sclerosis.

        I believe in infrared therapy. It worked for me.

        Maybe it can work for people suffering from multiple sclerosis.

        Anyway, that’s about all I know about mycoplasma.

        Have a nice evening.

        • Replies: @ben sampson
      128. denk says:
        @utu

        utu the fake news pusher, strike again…

        Gen Chi’s alleged speech, enuff said.

      129. @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

        “designed to kill Han Chinese”

        Any Corona news from the Han Koreans?

        Korean term for Koreans is “Han guk”, meaning “people of the Han”.
        The Koreans think they are superior to Chinese.
        The Yalu River is not an impassable barrier.

      130. @Adam Smith

        apparently the USG holds a patent for Mycoplasma with a Dr Shyh-Ching Lo. according to this D Scott in this link here: http://whale.to/m/scott7.html

        this apparently goes back to the middle of the last century. Chinese doctors were apparently involved and so was Canada.

        which leads to a possibility that may be far faateched yet it is not out of place to ask: if the south western Ontario region of propensity to MS is a natural Radon Co-factored MS location..or is the incidence the result of contamination of the region, still active 70 years later?

        • Replies: @Adam Smith
      131. 22pp22 says:

        Razib Khan , please come back to Unz!

      132. @RadicalCenter

        It was not a mandatory abortion policy, though, RC (and OBF). It was a one-child policy. Those who had more than one would have a very hard time getting the 2nd (and subsequent) children into school, something that is anathema to Chinese, who are mostly too rigid to imagine homeschooling as a good thing. There were other consequences, such as the parents getting fired from their jobs, etc. (I know a specific example of this.)

        Out in the country, in China, the policy was not enforced very well, anyway. The poor peons out in the sticks, which is what rural Chinese people mostly are, were left alone to do their own things.

        The abortions were done by lots of Chinese people on their own, but in general on girl babies, due to the culture of China, which values at least one boy in the family, the 1st of which is to take care of the parents in their old age (at least house them).

        Now, I’ll be derided by some commenters as a Chinaphile* here but, I’m ambivalent about Deng’s policy. It is pretty much the biggest infringement of rights there could be, controlling procreation. I agree with RC though, that, had the not happened, the 2-3 billion people in that country would be mostly miserable, as for lots of the history of that country. China had more people in the mid-1800s than America has EVEN NOW!, and on a piece of land that may look like the size of the continental US, but is not (40%, the west is just mostly uninhabited high desert and mountains, and lots of the rest of the country is mountainous as all get-out.)

        .

        * The ones that have’t told me I hate the Chinese, that is.

      133. @Sum-Tin-Phishy

        We [US 3 Letters] have someone on the inside working in Wuhan at the L4, or maybe someone that wants revenge, or we know that what was stolen ended up in Wuhan, and let’s leverage this as a perfect cover.

        Or maybe, just maybe, Chinese Quality Assurance is assuredly not JOB 1!. Seeing as that Wuhan facility is one of just a handful of such labs, and was opened 2 years back, I’d call that much more likely than you scenario.

      134. @Anon

        Peru rates so high presumably because of the ancient migration of northeast Asians over the Bering Straight into N. America and down to the bottom of S. America ? That would make sense as the indians that are at the Southernmost point of Latin America are actually from the FIRST wave of nomads, from what I recall reading…and the ones in Canada/Alaska are actually from the third/last wave.

        Is this the reason then?

      135. USA Today : “Trump says Coronavirus will be gone by April ” What does he know ? Was it another psyop to usher in more authoritarian control ? If you knew the outbreak was coming would you have shorted the stock market like insiders did prior to 9/11 ?

      136. veteranstoday.com

        : “Coronavirus: finding the ambiguous reality behind the fear porn headlines”
        unboundedspirit.com : “The weapon of fear: How they[politicians] use fear to manipulate you “
      137. Wade says:
        @Alfred

        I know an Asian female who says that one of the conspiracy theories going around in their circles was that it was 2 disgruntled employees in one of those bio weapons labs or a lab experimenting with the corona virus. That may very well be the case.

        I have a hard time imagining that this was an intentional policy of the US unless it was done with full knowledge and approval of the Chinese government. Why would they want to invite the Chinese to retaliate with their own bio weapons?

      138. denk says:
        @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

        Fact: Swine Flu and Avian Flu hit Chinese farmer; drones were used and have been collected by MinSS and Army. The drones come from a standard injection mold (plastics) which indicates 30 wk for a setup which indicates intense prior planning.

        Add in Corona and you have 3 plagues hitting China at once

        Exactly.

        Also when we apply the four who rule…

        Who’s the motive ?
        Who benefits ?
        Who’s has the means ?
        Who’s a very long track record of assaulting the victim,
        has been intensifying the attacks lately ?

        It all points to ‘you know who’ !

        I therefore proclaim [[[you know who]]] guilty until proven innocent.

      139. denk says:
        @steinbergfeldwitzcohen

        Chinese standards of hygiene are far better than S. Asia or Africa.

        ———————————-

        Jp [bird flu, swine flu, SARS2]
        SK [bird flu, swine flu] Singapore [SARS1, SARS2]
        TW [SARS1, bird flu],
        PRC [SARS1, SARS2, bird flu, swine flu]

        .
        .
        .
        .
        .
        .

        India [nein, zero, nade, zilch]

        ———————-
        This chart doesnt seem right.

        When it comes to hygience,
        Jp, Singapore, SK etc are right up there in Asia and yet all these virus seem to ‘home in‘ to the most advanced hub of Asia…..?

        I dont believe in coincidence theory so lets examine the facts…

        Its well documented that,.
        [[[NIH]]] sponsored research on race specific weaponisation of H5N1, H7N9, er, for defensive purpose [SIC], not only that, the results were publicised for download.

        2012
        Clinton of [[[the family]]] warned of bioweapon attacks from AQ [SIC]

        CDC insiders predicted global pandemic in 2013.

        2013
        China hit by H7N9 !

        2014
        NIF sponsored scientists publicised H5N1 weaponisation DIY updates

        2017
        NIF scientists publicized H7N9 weaponisation enhancement.

        2018
        China hit by H7N9 again.

        2019
        China hit by swine flu.
        [nation wide co-ordinated attacks by professionally modified drones no less]

        2020
        China hit by SARS2 AND H5N1 !

        This is too much for even the most hardcore coincidence theorists,
        I thus proclaim [[[fukus]]] guilty until proven innocent.

      140. @ben sampson

        Thanks for the link. Interesting read. The depth of their evil knows no limits.

        It’s horrible that these evil bastards are destroying our otherwise beautiful world before our eyes.

        which leads to a possibility that may be far faateched yet it is not out of place to ask: if the south western Ontario region of propensity to MS is a natural Radon Co-factored MS location..or is the incidence the result of contamination of the region, still active 70 years later?

        It could be both. It could be other forms of industrial pollution. A giant cocktail of poison. Southwestern Ontario is a highly polluted industrial area situated between Detroit, Windsor, Toronto, Hamilton, Mississaugua, Niagara Falls, Tonawanda, Buffalo, etc. The whole area is poisonous… One of the dirtiest places on earth. Wind carries pollution from Detroit and the old coal plants over the region. There’s radioactive waste scattered all about. London Ontario has some of the worst air in Canada. There is also a serious lack of sunshine and long cold winters.

        I was born and grew up in western new york. I left as soon as I could. Any fond memories I have for the area are completely dwarfed by the negative memories I have. I caught my mycoplasma infection while visiting family there for thanksgiving. I will never go back. It is a post-industrial, nightmarish hellhole.

        I don’t know if you’re familiar with Alexisonfire. They’re a band from St. Catharines. When I think about the people who have not been fortunate enough to leave the area I can’t help but think of this song…

        I live in the north Georgia mountains. I have a neighbor who went to Niagara Falls with some friends and family, you know, to see the falls. They all got sick. When he told me about it I was not surprised. The whole area is a radioactive cesspool. I wish he would have mentioned his plans before he went. I could have warned him.

        When someone says the word Buffalo or Niagara Falls all I think is cancer, poison, pollution, radiation, illness, misery and death.

        Have you ever thought of leaving? Finding a place somewhere in the sunshine? A place with warm weather, clean water and clear air?

        • Replies: @ben sampson
      141. denk says:

        ‘This planet has already achieved a delicate balance between all species, long before we arrived. But the self-deluded geniuses wanted more excitement to the show. There is a conspiracy to spread the flu virus at the widest coverage possible, and it’s not just a theory.

        The scientists themselves who were conducting the specific research on how they made H7N9 virus increase its rate of human transmissions are already publicizing it.

        h5n1-researchMore than that, they are also studying specific strains from different locations on Earth, so that a gene, or race, specific attack can be made possible.

        The viruses being experimented upon “have been collected in at least 28 countries in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Asia.”

        https://eclinik.net/heres-the-proof-flu-virus-was-deliberately-weaponized-for-widest-transmission/

      142. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
        @anonymous

        Results for a MERS vaccine is similar to the four tested SARS vaccines.

        ABSTRACT

        To determine if a hypersensitive-type lung pathology might occur when mice were given an inactivated MERS-CoV vaccine and challenged with infectious virus as was seen with SARS-CoV vaccines, we prepared and vaccinated mice with an inactivated MERS-CoV vaccine. Neutralizing antibody was induced by vaccine with and without adjuvant and lung virus was reduced in vaccinated mice after challenge. Lung mononuclear infiltrates occurred in all groups after virus challenge but with increased infiltrates that contained eosinophils and increases in the eosinophil promoting IL-5 and IL-13 cytokines only in the vaccine groups. Inactivated MERS-CoV vaccine appears to carry a hypersensitive-type lung pathology risk from MERS-CoV infection that is similar to that found with inactivated SARS-CoV vaccines from SARS-CoV infection.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5027702/

      143. @Adam Smith

        I am encouraging my children to do so with their young and coming families. they are successful professionals, out of MacMaster/DeGroote school of business no less..doing very well and should be able to do so anywhere in the world.

        they have not paid attention as far as I have noticed but things are getting tight..I am sure I will get their attention soon anyway.

        I am a mature man…I have lived almost all of my life here in Ontario.. not worried about me. there is expeience here that cloys, sticks and adheres to my soul..lived in this region.

        I love Burlington, in the city, by the bay. I can wallow there in the summer forever..especially in the crowds on a Friday evening/night, the pubs and good euro beer.

        but I know the nastiness you list. I have lived all over the region..not as far as London but from Toronto to St Catherines and northern towns like Welland, Wainfleet. I love the Hamilton Hills…Ancaster, Dundas, Flamborough, Brantford.

        when the precious good weather comes I dont waste it…I am always wearing out my car. but precious it is indeed as what you say about the weather is 100% right again…long cloudy winters in which weeks can pass before you see some sunlight

        I knew that band ..Alexisonfire.. but I had forgotten all about them. I will refresh my memory by listening to them again

        but that is a tall order you are putting on me there man..a place that is clean! where? and at the same time feasible to carry out a life that is consistent with ones education and so on?

        its ok for me at my age, some underdeveloped, reasonably pristine environment. but again you see I am thinking of my children and grandchildren first. its the only way I can go.

        • Replies: @Adam Smith
      144. @Achmed E. Newman

        Thank you for the thoughtful comment and correction. I do know that even they had trouble enforcing the one-child policy fully. I also recall that they had an exception for ethnic minorities with already small populations, as well as to some degree for nonurban dwellers.

        But my understanding was that China did force many parents to kill their unborn babies by abortion when “necessary”?

      145. @macilrae

        A very scary fact is that Indonesia, with its huge population and massive Chinese tourism (Bali especially), has yet to report a case

        Even if that’s true, why is it “scary” ?

        • Replies: @macilrae
      146. @Intelligent Dasein

        No, it is not an engineered bioweapon

        Can you prove that ?

        No, it was not released into the environment by human agency, either accidentally or deliberately

        Can you prove that ?

        It is an exotic common cold that is bumping off 2% of the elderly and infirm people who catch it, like influenza does year after year

        Can you prove that ?

        Thought not.

        I’m glad I’m not as intelligent as you.

      147. @RadicalCenter

        I will be able to get more information to answer your question tomorrow, RC.

        (Yeah, I think you’re right about that exception for minorities.)

      148. @Alfred

        Engineered “novel coronavirus” okay for Europeans
        .
        https://benjaminfulford.net/2020/01/29/engineered-novel-coronavirus-okay-for-europeans/#comments
        .
        The “novel coronavirus” now infecting people in China is designed to leave those of European descent unharmed, according to P3 Freemason sources.  We have previously provided extensive proof to show this was also true of SARS.  Remember, the Nazi neocons who came to power with George W. Bush Jr.  said in their Project for the New American Century manifesto that ethnic-specific bio-weapons would be a “useful political tool.”
        .
        Look at the Patent!
        .
        https://www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/2018-11-20-US-Pat-No-10130701-CORONAVIRUS-Assignee-THE-PIRBRIGHT-INSTUTUTE-Woking-Great-Britain-funded-by-Wellcomme-Trust-and-Gates-Foundation-USPTO-Nov-20-2018.pdf

      149. thetruth says:
        @alex in San Jose AKA Digital Detroit

        this “American Citizen” was an Chinese immigrant, then went back teaching in an university in Wu Han . Here is Chinese news.
        https://www.sinoquebec.com/article-117474-1.html

        there are another Japanese also died in Wu Han, but seems an uncertain case, could be Covid-19

        but keep in mind, Japanese has pretty much similar risk for this virus as Chinese.

      150. thetruth says:

        population at risk for 6 types of coronavirus (this is the average of all six types)

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPnyPKvX0AAtdJ0?format=png&name=900×900

        my guess? if single out the SARS, East Asian especially Chinese could be several times of higher than African or Anglo-Saxons

        • Replies: @thetruth
      151. thetruth says:
        @utu

        that so-called speech by Chi Haotian is completely fake and lies. you posted it everywhere. so disgusting!

      152. denk says:

        [Updates]

        So much intrigue, so little time.
        Where do we begin,
        Why not the beginning ?

        Right After ww2, fukus extracted much coveted bioweapon experiment data from the notorious uNit 731, in exchange, the Jp war criminals were let off scot free, went on to prosper in big pharma, Jp .

        Washington lost no time deploying its new found treasure in the Korean war, dropping bubonic virus, amongst others craps, on Korean/Chinese civilians.

        [MORE]

        In later years,

        1951
        US tested LSD in a French village.
        https://www.counterpunch.org/2010/05/31/top-killing/

        1981
        Cuba accused fukus of dengue and swine flu attacks
        [confirmed]

        In 1985 and 1986,
        Nicaragua accused the CIA of creating a massive outbreak of dengue fever that infected thousands in that country

        1997
        William Cohen warned of risk of race specific bioweapon attack by OTHERS.

        PNAC highlighted race specific bioweapon as a ‘useful political tool’

        2001 onwards…
        Dozens of mysterious death of microbiologists later [many happened to specialise in ‘gene manipulaton and DNA sequencing]….

        2003
        SARS1 hit China.
        Chinese lawyer Tong Zeng accused fukus of biowarfare attack, in collaboration with the Jps,.
        [seconded]

        2008
        Indonesia accused US of bird flu plot

        2010
        someone claimed to have attended a meeting ,
        where Brit military types discussed a diabolical plot to depopulate China with bioweapon.
        CHINA WILL GET A COLD
        [[[sobs]]] chortled. [1]

        2011
        NIH sponsored scientist disclosed study of weaponisation of H5N1.
        https://gizmodo.com/engineered-avian-flu-could-kill-half-the-worlds-humans-5863078

        22 Jun 2012
        Fuchier publicized the details of how to DIY H5N1 weaponisation
        https://globalbiodefense.com/2012/06/22/dual-use-research-of-concern-fouchier-h5n1-study-finally-published/
        ————————————-

        June 25, 2012
        This prompted an article in the blog
        ‘Socio-Economics History Blog
        Socio-Economics & History CommentaryHome AboutWeaponized Bird Flu Research Published as Virus

        ‘Just Mutations’ Away from Pandemic!

        Why would any sane person publish details about how to weaponize bird flu? We are not dealing with sane people.

        We are dealing with people infected by the blasphemous reality of the mentally ill: Satanism. We are dealing with Illuminists-Satanists who are out to execute their agenda for depopulation, genocide, fomenting chaos, diseases, deaths, violence …. to initiate hell on earth … to prepare the way for their fake messiah, the Anti-Christ, the bringer of false peace, the white horseman of Revelation 6. They want to use bio-weapons and even race specific Bird Flu in this coming Satanic World War 3.

        This act of publishing the detail how-to of airborne transmissible virulent Bird Flu is just for plausible deniability before the western Illuminati employs it. They will say it is an act of rogue terrorists and nothing to do with their MIC
        – …………….
        [Referring to that 2010 interview,]
        Ex. British Military: The Illuminati Plans World War 3 in 18 – 24 Months!
        China will catch a Cold … During the nuclear ceasefire, there is planned to be a covert release of biological weapons. These will initially be targeted against the Chinese. As our source chillingly told us, “China will catch a cold”. Biological warfare will spread further, to the west.

        Infrastructure will be critically weakened. This is intended to be just the beginning. After this, a full nuclear exchange would be triggered: the “real” war, with widespread destruction and loss of life. Our source tells us that the planned population reduction through these combined means is 50%. He heard this figure stated in the meeting.

        June 25, 2012 – Posted by mosesman | Medicine &

        Health | Bird_Flu, depopulation, genocide, Illuminati, New_World_Order, Satan, War

        ———————————————–

        Most murkkans who stumpled on that interview back in 2010 would dismiss it as ‘conspiracy nuts’
        cuz They are conditioned to fixate on coincidence theory… against all odds.

        BUt FFW 2020,
        with 20/20 hindsight, wouldnt you say..

        The rest is history ?

        [1]
        The transcript of that interview…
        THE ANGLO SAXON MISSION,
        https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/#comment-3704795

        The video
        https://www.unz.com/wwebb/bats-gene-editing-and-bioweapons-recent-darpa-experiments-raise-concerns-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/#comment-3694546

      153. @RadicalCenter

        I apologize to you RC, OBF, and others who read my previous comment for being wrong about this. The only stories I’d heard were from people who DID have more than one child (not in a rural area, as, per what I wrote, it’s different there).

        For the case with the parents being fired, 2nd child not being registered in school etc., I just found out that the parents had HID the Mom during pregnancy from anyone but family. Yes, if the authorities found out that a woman was pregnant with an impending 2nd child, she would be taken to a clinic to have the baby aborted, NO MATTER HOW FAR ALONG too!

        Anyway, I hate being wrong, much less posting wrong stuff up here, so my apologies are due after I got more information from my Chinese source. Yes, babies were forcibly aborted during China’s one-child policy. That was pretty sick. It’s pretty much over now, as the demographics now are completely different.

      154. @Achmed E. Newman

        This is a correction.

        I had only gotten the partial story before from my Chinese source. Yes, there were forced abortions, right on through 9 months, if need be, to enforce the Chinese one-child. policy.

      155. Richard B says:
        @niceland

        if we are all genetically equal in our intellectual capacities then the the only way that a group, such as Ashkenazi Jews, could have been so successful would be through immoral behaviour, providing people with an incentive to persecute them.

        This is the #1 reason why the Race Hoax is perpetrated and placed above criticism.

        Because, if not, their criminality and savage anti-White hatred, entirely racially motivated, will be exposed.

        That’s why they had to solicit the help of so many non-White proxies and self-hating, useful idiot, opportunistic shabbos goy to make it work.

        But to do that they first had to seize control of all sources of finance and information.

        Who needs a Conspiracy Theory when you have The Unz Review?

      156. thetruth says:
        @thetruth

        here is an interview of an “white” American who is confirmed with Covid-19 from that Japanese cruise ship, with NO symptom

      157. @ben sampson

        I did not mean to be so harsh. The Canadian side of he border is much nicer than the U.S. side. One time a friend asked my what I thought the nicest thing about Buffalo was and I said proximity to Canada. You have better restaurants and music venues for example. Much nicer highways. Nicer people too. I think much of the pollution in your region comes from this proximity to the states.

        I understand why you would stay near your family and friends in the area you know and love. If I had children and grandchildren my decisions and lifestyle would be different. Probably not so different, but I know I’d get less sleep and I would probably have to work more often. I wouldn’t get to spend as much time reading.

        a place that is clean! where?

        That is a tall order. Clean places are getting harder to find. Unless you are willing to live in a remote place it is pretty impossible. Many people evidently love city life. I prefer rural living. City living never felt right for me, even as a child. Too many people too close together. I can hear and feel the hum of the electricity when I visit the city. (I hear it here too, but it is more bearable. I love it when the power goes out because it’s the only time I do not hear and feel the electricity. Sometimes I kill the electricity in the house to enjoy the quiet.)

        [MORE]

        Erie county New York is about 1000 square miles and has a population of almost one million people. The county I live in is about 1/3 of the size and has a population of twenty thousand, about half live in the “city”. There are ten traffic lights in the whole county, most of them within the city limits. More than half the county is national forest. The Chattahoochee-Oconee National Forests cover 867,000 acres. The biggest polluter here is a coal plant about 70 miles to the west that has recently been shutdown and decommissioned.

        The long harsh winters were definitely a big factor for me moving away. I like gardening and prefer the longer growing season. I can garden year round. It was 72 degrees yesterday. But the pollution and population density around western New York was more of a driving force. The place is a post-industrial waste land akin to Detroit. Buffalo is so dirty it’s not hard to find a cleaner place. People have all heard of Love Canal, but there are many more polluted places scattered around western New York, hiding in plain sight. There are 42 superfund sites in Tonawanda for example. 42 places as polluted as Love Canal in one town. Erie county has 210 superfund sites while Niagara county enjoys 159, including Love Canal. The county I live in has zero while the surrounding region has 5.

        a place that is clean! where? and at the same time feasible to carry out a life that is consistent with ones education and so on?

        This is even more difficult, likely impossible. Most people would not be able to find work here beyond working at the local walmart, restaurant, gas station, etc. Many people who live here commute to Atlanta two hours away. I’ve found a niche building and fixing computers, fixing cars and doing auto electric work. I install car stereos and backup cams. I fix air conditioners. I help people restore their old classic cars. I fix tractors and equipment. I install long range wifi for people blessed with large plots of land. I’m self employed and my customers find me by word of mouth. I’m luckier than most. Today I’m repairing a blown head gasket on a Honda Insight.

        No doubt city people would not like it here. It’s dark at night. There are no street lights outside of the city. The hospital and the liquor store are an hour away. There is no nightlife and not much for entertainment. There is only one restaurant in town worth visiting. The city rolls up the sidewalk at 8pm.

        • Replies: @ben sampson
      158. The other was also British. Connor Reed, below, caught it in Wuhan, the disease’s epicentre where it is presumably most dangerous, refused antibiotics, treated himself with hot whisky and honey, and survived [Coronavirus: British man who caught virus ‘beat flu with glass of hot whisky’, by Bradley Jolly, MirrorOnline, February 3, 2020]

        Well, clearly racists drink whiskey and honey, which is why they don’t die from the virus.

        Maybe the virus is racist and can be arrested for hate crimes?

      159. @Adam Smith

        take it easy man! you’re ok..positive humanist, living attitude.
        keep it going man! we all win that way!
        all the best

      160. macilrae says:
        @Dave Bowman

        The reason is because if there is a lack of reporting it suggests a lack of vigilance – or, the capability to be vigilant, and therefore an opportunity for the virus to spread widely unchecked. Once the government acknowledges infection locally, and takes the proper measures, they are bound to report it internationally too.

      161. @Sum-Tin-Phishy

        The Chinese have lost the ability to invent. Their excellence is their ability to copy, and also their Achilles heel.

        Agreed.

        Virus spies: https://www.ucanews.com/news/chinas-virus-spies-wreck-social-stability/87208

        • Troll: d dan, thetruth
      162. thetruth says:
        @Anon

        how do you know those Two dead in Iran are native Iranian? There are plenty of Chinese in Iran TOO!

      163. @Anon

        And absolutely no details, such as what the hell were only two infected persons doing in a moslem holy city in the middle of Iran? You don’t get there without first passing through Tehran, but nobody’s reported anything there.

        So what you’re telling us is that you trust the Iranian government to provide complete details, even to the point of having qualified medical personnel and procedures for testing the virus. Man, what an easy mark you are.

      164. @thetruth

        Even in China proper, the official confirmed data says that about 1% are without symptoms.

      165. Two Iranian citizens now have died from Coronavirus, and one of them was in the Iran-Iraq war, so I doubt that this person was of Chinese ethnicity:
        https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/02/19/619035/Iran-coronavirus-cases-confirmation-Qom-health
        http://archive.is/vUvw3

      166. Alfred says:
        @Anon

        We now have two Iran deaths. This article is OVER

        More Zionist wishful thinking.

        If it is true that Aryan Iranians have died, Europe and America are stuffed.

        In reality, the Iranians are reporting positive infections – not deaths. They are not saying the race of these people or how they caught it.

        Iran’s Health Ministry has confirmed two cases of coronavirus, the first in the country.

        The report states that there was also an unspecified number of other suspected cases and that those individuals have been isolated.

        There are currently no details on the nationality of the two people infected by the virus or the state of their health.

        An official in the health ministry said that two confirmed cases were detected in the central province of Qom.

        Subsequent tests were in progress and the results of these tests will be released to the public, once they are finalised, the official added.

        2 positive cases of coronavirus confirmed in Iran (Iranian Students News Agency)

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      167. @thetruth

        Older white women should never go sleeveless. Ugh.

      168. LondonBob says:
        @Alfred

        They were Chinese nationals who died in Iran.

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