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      Articles in The Guardian on Transmania are starting to resemble a POW blinking out T-O-R-T-U-R-E:

      Teenage transgender row splits Sweden as dysphoria diagnoses soar by 1,500%

      New health report and TV debates highlight backlash against gender reassignment
      by Richard Orange

      Sat 22 Feb 2020

      For several days this week the veteran Swedish journalist Malou von Sivers will cover the same topic in every episode of her nightly TV chat show: the extraordinary rise in diagnoses of gender dysphoria among teenage girls.

      Lukas Romson, one of the country’s leading trans activists, is prepared for the worst. “There will be no serious trans activists in the show, because none of us trusts Malou at all,” he says. “I’m afraid she’ll just use us.”

      But the fact that a mainstream programme is devoting so much time to the issue demonstrates just how much the debate has shifted in Sweden over the past year. “It’s been a very big change and very sudden,” Romson adds. “Everyone – but especially young people – feels worse because of what they perceive as the media’s hatred of them.”

      The immediate trigger for Von Sivers’s themed week is a report from Sweden’s Board of Health and Welfare which confirmed a 1,500% rise between 2008 and 2018 in gender dysphoria diagnoses among 13- to 17-year-olds born as girls.

      As we all know, 13 to 17-year-old girls are utterly immune to fashions and fads.

      But it also reflects a rapid change in public opinion. Just a year ago, there seemed few official obstacles left in the way of young people who wanted gender reassignment treatment.

      In the autumn of 2018, the Social Democrat-led government, under pressure from the gay, lesbian and transgender group RFSL, proposed a new law which would reduce the minimum age for sex reassignment medical care from 18 to 15, remove all need for parental consent, and allow children as young as 12 to change their legal gender.

      Then in March last year, the backlash started. Christopher Gillberg, a psychiatrist at Gothenburg’s Sahlgrenska Academy, wrote an article in the Svenska Dagbladet newspaper warning that hormone treatment and surgery on children was “a big experiment” which risked becoming one of the country’s worst medical scandals.

      In case a bobby knocks on The Guardian’s door and says:

      “‘Ello, ‘ello, Richard Orange, wot’s this hate in your newspaper about transgenderism being a silly teenage girl fad? We need you to accompany us down to Scotland Yard and assist us in our inquiries.”

      The reporter can reply:

      “No, no, I was deploring how hateful it is that everybody mature and experienced in Sweden is now talking as if transgenderism is a silly teenage girl fad.”

      iSteve commenter Lot explains:

      These aren’t girls who want to be boys, these are girls who want attention.

      Most of these girls who come down with Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria the week after their friends come down with it weren’t even tomboys when they were younger. They are just young women who are feeling a lot of strong emotions as puberty sets in, but their culture hasn’t given them helpful guidance, so they grab on to their culture’s latest really bad idea.

      One of the basic principles of the Hippocratic Oath is:

      First, do no harm.

      But too many doctors have forgotten this in the latest round of insanity.

       
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      1. Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.

        • Troll: IHTG
        • Replies: @Alden
        I was going to mention that.
        , @anon
        Doubtful, Sweden is just following the US with a time lag. Search on "Rapid onset gender dysporia", it's all over the webmd world. More benefits of the unlimited blank slate myth.

        "Up 1500%" is close to meaningless without the baseline. Up "1500%" from what?

        Sweden used to give lobotomies out pretty freely. If they did that now to progtards no one would be able to tell any difference after the operation.
        , @Thomm
        No chance.

        The entire basis of transgenderism (which is 95% MtF), is because women are vastly better treated than men in all advanced Protestant democracies.

        They are simply trying to be in the vastly more favored group.
        , @Russ

        Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.
         
        Unquestionably the prime impetus. Unlike the U.S., in which the boys will be girls to win medals in the girls' athletic events.
        , @Mr. XYZ
        Swedish vibrants can't be buggers?
      2. But MOM(!!???) all the girls are boys now.

        EVERYBODY is doing it.

      3. Well duh, to avoid getting raped or grenaded.

      4. @SOL
        Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.

        I was going to mention that.

      5. Islam is right about women , SAS is right about Swedes .

        • Replies: @BenKenobi
        Harold Covington was right.

        About everything.
      6. Giving trannies any influence whatsoever over policy regarding children and sex ed was an even dumber idea than it was to give lesbian feminists influence over family law, and that was extremely stupid and harmful.

        But I guess the question is whether it was malice or incompetence. If the former, maybe it wasn’t stupid after all.

        • Agree: sayless
        • Replies: @another anon

        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever
         
        If you think that few "trannies" are the movers and shakers of big policy changes, think again.

        See who is pushing for transgender agenda, and why.

        https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

        As it stands, politics is a battle of oligarchs that wield their ideologies in a great war of money. Their soldiers are professional activists invested in the permanent war between either end of the political spectrum. Their cheerleaders are media outlets that report on these wars, treat them like football games, and take the claims of these organizations to be unassailable fact, it is easy for the average person to disengage and become disaffected. Ultimately, their voice and vote does not matter. This creates a situation where ideologies such as transgenderism, an ideology that is fundamentally incoherent and experimenting on children can be accepted on the left. A situation where the punishment for not going along with the party line is a violently enforced exile.
         


        The influence these large foundations and their funders have on our politics cannot be underestimated, and it needs to be questioned. The transgender civil rights movement consists of (i) large numbers of astroturf organizations funded by billionaires with financial interest in its success, (ii) medical professionals who stand to gain from ‘selling’ transgenderism to the public (and who are happy to lie to the public about their treatments) and (iii) pharmaceutical companies that appear to be engaging in illegal off-label marketing with said medical professionals. The question of what came first-the foundations, the pharmaceutical companies, or the medical professionals -is like asking whether the chicken or the egg came first. But the fact of the matter is, all three groups stand to benefit from the transgender civil rights movement. No transgender person does.
         
        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.

        More important question is: what comes after transgenderism? What is the next big social justice cause that will make big $$$ for the right people?

        If you watch leftist spaces, you will know that polyamory is currently on the way to be mainstreamed.
        Great news if you are lawyer - imagine 12-sided marriage contracts and 12-sided divorce cases ;-)

        What will come after? My guess is transspeciesism. This will be cause that will have support from all parts of political spectrum.

        https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/nazi-furries-625x350.jpg

        Invest in fursuit manufacture and species reassignment surgery.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat
        , @Pericles


        But I guess the question is whether it was malice or incompetence. If the former, maybe it wasn’t stupid after all.

         
        Pro-tip: it's always malice.
        , @Anonymous
        >"Giving trannies any influence...was an even dumber idea than it was to give lesbian feminists influence over family law..."

        And which dumbos gave all that away? Why straight, white, conservative Western males!

        Guys no longer fight for anything. All they do, in fact, is whine impotently online about all the nonsense their passivity/cowardice lets happen in reality. They act like Martians make misandric laws, not active/organized women and passive/willfully-disorganized men.

        LGBT/feminists fight. Heterosexuals do not.

        Guess who's winning?

        QUICK: some 50+ years after feminism began attacking masculinity, name 1 (ONE!) group that is fighting effectively for men's rights!

        Thought so.
      7. But why in ultra feminist Sweden would a girl want to identify as a boy?

        • Replies: @Lot
        These aren’t girls who want to be boys, these are girls who want attention.

        Hate to keep reposting this, but it doesn’t seem to be catching on: a lot of this is completely heterosexual women just randomly declaring themselves “genderqueer” and continuing to be heterosexual women, but officially joining the LGBTQETC COMMUNITY and becoming SPECIAL and UNIQUE.
        , @Desiderius
        Feminism makes women miserable.
      8. This is the spirit of a people who no longer wish to live.

      9. This is great news for Hollywood. Now we get that long awaited Woke remake of the Bob Hope/Frankie Avalon/Tuesday Weld love comedy I’ll Take Sweden.

        • Replies: @Steve Sailer
        I think I saw that at the Drive-In when I was about 7.
      10. anon[533] • Disclaimer says:
        @SOL
        Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.

        Doubtful, Sweden is just following the US with a time lag. Search on “Rapid onset gender dysporia”, it’s all over the webmd world. More benefits of the unlimited blank slate myth.

        “Up 1500%” is close to meaningless without the baseline. Up “1500%” from what?

        Sweden used to give lobotomies out pretty freely. If they did that now to progtards no one would be able to tell any difference after the operation.

        • Replies: @The Alarmist

        Sweden used to give lobotomies out pretty freely.
         
        That could explain volumes ....
      11. Somewhat OT:

        The United States is running out of white people (for example, American
        children are already majority nonwhite). This, along with (1) Low fertility
        rates (i.e., there are few children around), and (2) Hollywood’s and New
        York’s systematic removal of whites from movies, TV, and commercials,
        is producing all sorts of bizarre effects (not to say secret vices) among,
        particularly, white women:

        1. This was reported several years ago: childless white women, who number
        in the millions, are so starved for the images of white children and happy large white
        families that they sometimes become addicted to the blogs run by Mormon
        women, showing photos of their large broods who seem to be bursting with
        joy and radiant health;

        2. Americans have discovered that thanks to the miracle of the Internet they
        can now satisfy their craving for white faces by watching European films and
        TV shows on YouTube, Netflix, and other media. Women, specifically, can
        get their fill of white children singing and dancing by watching Voice Kids
        shows from Europe (the U.S. doesn’t have Voice Kids yet) which are available
        on YouTube. Several countries have them. Voice Kids Poland seems to be
        particularly popular in the U.S., perhaps due to the large Polish-American
        population;

        3. The craving for beautiful white faces is, of course, not limited to white
        women. The website Quora has many answers to questions of the type “What
        do beautiful Swedish women look like?” It turns out that the galleries of
        beautiful white women from different countries are often upvoted by black
        men who apparently cannot get enough of looking at very attractive white
        girls.

        Few things undermine the self-esteem of nonwhite women (and many men
        too) as much as the images of white beauty, so in our totalitarian future they
        will be even more systematically removed from the public sphere than they
        are now, and with the craziness overtaking this country they might become
        completely forbidden.

        • Agree: John Regan
        • Replies: @Michael Tomac
        That's...interesting. The irony is, some of the most virulent anti-white agitators have been liberal white women, particularly those from the Millennial generation. I guess its "do as I say, but not as I do..."
        , @Travis
        certainly Blues eyes will soon be quite rare for Americans. 100 years ago 50% of White Americans had Blue eyes. Today just 15% of white Americans have Blue eyes. By 2070 less than 10% of Americans will have Blue eyes
        , @James N. Kennett

        Americans have discovered that thanks to the miracle of the Internet they can now satisfy their craving for white faces by watching European films and TV shows
         
        They should probably avoid British TV, which is eager to embrace "diversity", whether it is appropriate or not. For example, the recent remake of Dracula included a Chinese woman and a mixed-race black - among the nuns in a convent in Budapest in 1900.
        , @Alden
        Who watches TV?
        , @Dissident
        https://live.staticflickr.com/283/18524792919_8704484e76_b.jpg
        (Random child that appears to be "bursting with joy and radiant health". From my collection of photos found on the web of the magical creatures known as boys. )
      12. Anon[126] • Disclaimer says:

        In the New York Times today is an article about how some trouble-making activist Google employees tried to protest some of Google’s projects like research on A.I. for drones for the military. They got fired.

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html

        The Times sent a photographer named Bobby Doherty to photograph six of the uppity ex-Googlers. Half of them are clearly trannies: Rebecca R., Kathryn S., and Irene K. Two I’d say with 70 percent certainty are women-born-women, and one I’d say with 90 percent certainty is a guy.

        I’m sure that half of Google’s employees cannot be trans, but I wonder how many are. Maybe autogynes self select as aggressive activists, but still, fifty percent of the activists interviewed is really high. Maybe activist normals are more attuned to context and culture and manage to not aggravate their bosses as much?

        • Replies: @Clifford Brown
        The Federal Trade Commission should add the percentage of the work force that is transgender to its factor test in determining if a business is a monopoly.
        , @HammerJack
        A lot of MtF trans critters do it because life as an ugly woman in Current Year America is much more agreeable than life as an unattractive male. Then there are some who had looks and lost them due to the aging process, and something similar applies.
        , @Andrew M
        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well. It also means they take rules literally, so when Google says “don’t be evil”, they really believe it; unlike the rest of us who understand that it’s just corporate branding bs. Finally, as Steve has mentioned once or twice before, quite a few MtF trannies seem to have Aspergers.
        , @The Wild Geese Howard

        They got fired.
         
        Of course.

        There is far too much money on the military gravy train for Google to cancel such a project.

        The drones will also be useful tools that will help the Deep State round up dissidents for eventual liquidation.
        , @ic1000
        Re: the NYT Magazine piece The Great Google Revolt lionizing the plucky employees who bravely protested Google's work on AI projects for the US military, and paid the Ultimate Price for their moral stance.

        This wouldn't by happenstance involve the project that Google cancelled at its employees' behest, would it?

        Business Insider article from August 2019 on Thiel's NYT Op-Ed, "Good for Google, Bad for America: At its core, artificial intelligence is a military technology. Why is the company sharing it with a rival?" Thiel took issue with Google setting up an AI lab in Beijing in 2017, while also spiking its AI military contract "Project Maven" with the Pentagon in June of 2018 after an intense employee backlash.
        , @bigdicknick
        can we get BARF added in the agree/disagree etc. button?
        , @Kratoklastes
        The one in the middle shows how much can be done with face-glop and tweezers (to shape the eyebrows).

        Makes me wonder what Keira Knightley would look like without war-paint (inb4 "The promo reel for 'Official Secrets'": that's the war-paint version of no war-paint).

        The other two... by turning into unconvincing fat ugly pretend-women, they might be able to find someone with low enough standards.

        There's plenty of evidence that ugliness is no barrier to fat chicks getting laid. Every time I go anyplace with more than 50 people I see grotesque obese land-whales with offspring - tendency evidence that they found a man with negligible standards and/or eyesight. Otherwise it's evidence that there's a clandestine industry that involves harvesting the contents of used condoms recovered from dogging sites. Maybe both.
      13. I’m going to guess most of these poor girls are considered unattractive and are going through an especially painful adolescence. A better society would give them support and not use them as cannon fodder in somebody’s war against the patriarchy.

        • Replies: @CromwellForever
        Based on my anecdotal experience with American FtMs, I'd say some are, but a lot are pretty attractive tomboys (often Jewesses with huge milkers) who fetishize gay male relationships/want to be in a twink role. I suspect it's teen girl fad following more than anything, but I wonder if yaoi manga (Japanese comics aimed at girls about homosexual male romance) has contributed to the massive rise of FtMs.
        , @Rosie

        I’m going to guess most of these poor girls are considered unattractive and are going through an especially painful adolescence. A better society would give them support and not use them as cannon fodder in somebody’s war against the patriarchy.
         
        The simple fact of the matter is that not every girl is willing or able to conform to stereotypical gender norms. This doesn't have to be the end of the world, but now that the suggestion of transgenderism is put in their heads, it seems like an easy answer.
      14. @SOL
        Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.

        No chance.

        The entire basis of transgenderism (which is 95% MtF), is because women are vastly better treated than men in all advanced Protestant democracies.

        They are simply trying to be in the vastly more favored group.

        • Replies: @Andy
        but in this case, we are talking of girls wanting to become boys, which seems very strange in a very feminist country like Sweden. Unlike they were just crying for attention.
        , @Bardon Kaldian
        Not much of a source, still....

        https://www.quora.com/Are-transgender-men-female-to-male-more-common-than-transgender-women-male-to-female

        ...............
        The statistics at the time - 15 year ago suggested that the split of mtf v ftm was about 80/20 - When I set up a support organisation from 2007 to 2010 we saw a distinct change taking place with dramatically increased numbers of young trans guys seeking support - while most of the trans women we supported were over 50.
        ...............................................
      15. @Bill P
        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever over policy regarding children and sex ed was an even dumber idea than it was to give lesbian feminists influence over family law, and that was extremely stupid and harmful.

        But I guess the question is whether it was malice or incompetence. If the former, maybe it wasn't stupid after all.

        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever

        If you think that few “trannies” are the movers and shakers of big policy changes, think again.

        See who is pushing for transgender agenda, and why.

        https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

        As it stands, politics is a battle of oligarchs that wield their ideologies in a great war of money. Their soldiers are professional activists invested in the permanent war between either end of the political spectrum. Their cheerleaders are media outlets that report on these wars, treat them like football games, and take the claims of these organizations to be unassailable fact, it is easy for the average person to disengage and become disaffected. Ultimately, their voice and vote does not matter. This creates a situation where ideologies such as transgenderism, an ideology that is fundamentally incoherent and experimenting on children can be accepted on the left. A situation where the punishment for not going along with the party line is a violently enforced exile.

        The influence these large foundations and their funders have on our politics cannot be underestimated, and it needs to be questioned. The transgender civil rights movement consists of (i) large numbers of astroturf organizations funded by billionaires with financial interest in its success, (ii) medical professionals who stand to gain from ‘selling’ transgenderism to the public (and who are happy to lie to the public about their treatments) and (iii) pharmaceutical companies that appear to be engaging in illegal off-label marketing with said medical professionals. The question of what came first-the foundations, the pharmaceutical companies, or the medical professionals -is like asking whether the chicken or the egg came first. But the fact of the matter is, all three groups stand to benefit from the transgender civil rights movement. No transgender person does.

        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.

        More important question is: what comes after transgenderism? What is the next big social justice cause that will make big $$$ for the right people?

        If you watch leftist spaces, you will know that polyamory is currently on the way to be mainstreamed.
        Great news if you are lawyer – imagine 12-sided marriage contracts and 12-sided divorce cases 😉

        What will come after? My guess is transspeciesism. This will be cause that will have support from all parts of political spectrum.

        Invest in fursuit manufacture and species reassignment surgery.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat

        • Replies: @El Dato
        Money and ethical superiority talks!

        By Eric Striker, who seems to be at liberty of not writing like a POW who has to make the first letters of the phrase-sequence spell out "YOU KNOW WHO" writes about the transgender top-down revolution:

        American Oligarchs I: the Pritzkers and Transgenderism

        The Pritzker family, heirs to the Hyatt Hotel, today use their estimated $29 billion dollar fortune [real or stockmarket?] to speculate on the stock market, dodge taxes, buy politicians, and rip people off with predatory banking schemes.

        The Jewish clan has made capitalist-activism, where money wrung out of working class people is used to pay for the pet projects of the anti-social left, central to their plan to radically re-engineer America. The Hyatt Hotels have been specifically targeted in the past for their atrocious working conditions, while they have also raked in large illicit profits through Superior Bank, a usurious subprime lending racket that ripped off and ruined the lives of scores of poor people. The money-lending venture so abusive it compelled the government to force the Pritzkers to pay a $460 million dollar settlement. In a functional system they would’ve gone to prison.

        One member, the billionaire Jennifer Pritzker, is a male-to-female transgender who served in the US military.

        According to research conducted by Jennifer Bilek, Jennifer’s money, along with other figures like fellow Jew and transsexual Martine Rothblatt, has put the wind in the sails of the transgender top-down revolution, granting it scientific and medical credibility through the power of their checkbooks, along with trained operatives [that is, lobbyists & people with large rolodexes?] who have helped institutionalize in the corporate world. The Pritzkers are heavily invested in the world of pharmaceuticals and science.

        Through the Tawani Foundation, Jennifer has been able to corrupt and influence the direction of the ACLU, various military academies, medical institutions (including for children) and universities.

        In recent years, Jennifer has donated millions to the University of Minnesota Medical Department’s Human Sexuality department, carved out a “Pritzker School of Medicine” at the University of Chicago, and a “Transgender Studies” chair, handpicked by Pritzker, at the University of Victoria in British Columbia, Canada. Other members of the Pritzker family donated $25 million to University of California at San Francisco’s child health department, which under the auspices of two Jews, predictably advocates for confused or ill young children to be given irreversible transsexual surgeries.
         
        It doesn't sound good.

        iSteve writes:

        In the autumn of 2018, the Social Democrat-led government, under pressure from the gay, lesbian and transgender group RFSL, proposed a new law ...
         
        I don't care where they take their money from, fantasy-less people in leather coats and re-education centers in the wilderness were invented for such a case. It's just normal prophylaxis. If you go around demanding that people smooch Ebola patients, you would get locked up, too.
        , @Achmed E. Newman
        I wouldn't want a complete species transition, if for no other reason than the HUGE co-pay, but I think a long tail for balance would be pretty cool.
        , @guest
        Furryism is “transgressive,” but it doesn’t offer as much by way of progressive intrusion into normality. It’s more of a fashion issue.

        Transsexualism, on the other hand, has granted people license to intrude upon a child’s upbringing and feed them drugs/cut off parts of them. Immense power.

        Not to mention forcing you into obedience over what you’re allowed to call others or notice about them. Now stating a simple fact like “that person is male” might be akin to “outing” them and a “hate” crime.

        Furryism offers no such power. Only a moderate amount of humiliation in making people say they appreciate something profoundly silly and/or gross.
        , @James N. Kennett

        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.
         
        Mark Steyn recently interviewed Douglas Murray, who pointed out the links between drug companies and those who advise people on "transitioning". He predicts a lot of lawsuits in the USA. If billionaires have irresponsibly promoted transitioning, they can expect to be sued as well.

        https://www.steynonline.com/9895/the-accelerating-madness (33:20 to 34:20 in the video).
        , @Alden
        The foundations funded by Hyatt Hotels and associated businesses, Levi Strauss jeans and Crown Zellerbach ( paper forestry lumber) are major donors to trans genderist drag queen story hour etc.

        Follow the activists back to the money.
      16. New health report and TV debates highlight backlash against gender reassignment
        by Richard Orange

        I like how we’re told all this by an Orange, Dick.

        Malou von Sivers

        From Swedish Wikipedia, through the Google Translate colander:

        Bakgrund
        Malou von Sivers växte upp i Stockholm[2] och Täby.[3] Hon har bland annat i Sommar i P1 2016 berättat hur hon som barn blev misshandlad av fadern, men att familjen på ytan var en mönsterfamilj.[4] Föräldrarna separerade när hon var 17 år.[5] Hennes farfar Gustaf von Sivers och morfar Nimrod Dahlström var båda företagsledare.

        von Sivers har bakgrund som kvällstidningsreporter på både Aftonbladet och Expressen, där hon gjorde flera uppmärksammade wallraff och reportage, ofta med en feministisk vinkel.[6] Exempelvis gjorde hon artikelserier om äldrevården där hon bland annat wallraffade som biträde, skrev reportage om psykvården där hon följde kuratorn Barbro Sandins arbete med att hjälpa unga schizofrena män och en uppmärksammad serie om belastningsskador.

        1987 startade hon tidningen Elle i Sverige och verkade där som chefredaktör.[6]

        Background
        Malou von Sivers grew up in Stockholm [2] and Täby. [3] Among other things, in Summer in P1 2016, she told how she, as a child, was abused by her father, but that the family on the surface was a pattern family. [4] The parents separated when she was 17. [5] Her grandfather Gustaf von Sivers and grandfather Nimrod Dahlström were both business leaders.

        von Sivers has background as evening newspaper reporter at both Aftonbladet and Expressen, where she made several well-known wallraff and reportage, often with a feminist angle. [6] For example, she did articles on the elderly care, where she, among other things, crippled as an assistant, wrote a report on the psychiatric care where she followed the curator Barbro Sandin’s work to help young schizophrenic men and an attention-grabbing series about stress injuries.

        In 1987 she started the magazine Elle in Sweden and worked there as editor-in-chief. [6]

        Is she a womyn-born-womyn, or a transitionee herself? Or a TERF?

        Just having a von in her name is suspicious anywhere in Scandinavia. It suggests an upper-class, snobbish, German-derived upbringing.

        I just saw a charming German movie with a hyperpolyglot actress named <a title=”"Nora” href="Nora Tschirner. (Why isn’t she busy in Hollywood?) Looking her up, I found a European gossip-verification site. Then I noticed Greta Thunberg on it, too. The rumors they examined for Greta were such as, “Did she secretly marry her boyfriend?”, “Is she pregnant?”, “Is she gay and in the closet?” All of these were scotched.

        Then I went back to Nora’s page, and saw that she had the exact same rumors, right down to the last word. In other words, a bot. All of these were scotched for Nora, as well.

        • Replies: @but an humble craftsman
        Actually it suggests being part of the swedish nobility.
        Which is upper class.
      17. Anon[126] • Disclaimer says:

        You can get an idea of what sort of people are running things in Scandinavia by watching the Norwegian documentary series Hjernevask (“Brainwash”). It was conceived and hosted by a popular Norwegian comedian named Harald Eia. Eia had majored in sociology in college, but after he read Steven Pinker’s book Blank Slate he decided to do a documentary on the craziness surrounded gender/sex, nature/nurture, with violence and race thrown in for good measure. YouTube has the whole series with English subtitles.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjernevask

        The basic M.O. of the show is that he interviews Norwegian “experts” or officials or NPO staff to get the Scandinavian politically correct story, and then he interviews skeptics, most of whom are in the U.S. or U.K., but there are few sane Norwegian experts left. He manages to interview some really famous people, like Borat’s cousin, Simon Baron-Cohen, evo-pysch pioneer David Buss, Gregory Cochran, Charles Murray, Richard Lynn, and Richard Nisbett, as well as Steven Pinker himself.

        The show is fairly lighthearted, but there was quite a protest when it first aired, and one of interviewees moved out of Norway for a few years to escape the notoriety. Eia is truly a master of getting people to destroy themselves in interviews. He’s a funny, friendly, self-deprecating version of Isaac Chotiner.

        The episodes:

        Episodes continue after the break:

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        • Agree: Lot
        • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

        The show is fairly lighthearted, but there was quite a protest when it first aired...
         
        Whatever you do, don't let his enemies find the anagram sites, ours or theirs.

        Harald Eia =

        Liar ahead.


        Hjernevask =

        Shaven jerk.
        Ha skjerven. (Have the beard.)
        Avskjer hen. (Hate them.)
        , @J.Ross
        There's a very iStevey moment in one of these where Harald asks an African athlete for coaching in running, and the African says "yes," and then Harald asks if, with this coaching, he would ever be as fast as the African, and the African says, "No."
      18. @SOL
        Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.

        Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.

        Unquestionably the prime impetus. Unlike the U.S., in which the boys will be girls to win medals in the girls’ athletic events.

        • Replies: @anon
        Unquestionably the prime impetus.

        You all are assuming that Middle Easterners won't rape little boys, adolescents and even men.
      19. We should all be thankful that these new developments in Sweden succeeded the prime years of ABBA.

        I’m pretty damn sure about Agnetha and Anni-Frid. One may have concerns about Benny and Björn, what with the hairstyles and platform shoes …

      20. @Jake
        This is great news for Hollywood. Now we get that long awaited Woke remake of the Bob Hope/Frankie Avalon/Tuesday Weld love comedy I'll Take Sweden.

        I think I saw that at the Drive-In when I was about 7.

      21. @Anon
        You can get an idea of what sort of people are running things in Scandinavia by watching the Norwegian documentary series Hjernevask ("Brainwash"). It was conceived and hosted by a popular Norwegian comedian named Harald Eia. Eia had majored in sociology in college, but after he read Steven Pinker's book Blank Slate he decided to do a documentary on the craziness surrounded gender/sex, nature/nurture, with violence and race thrown in for good measure. YouTube has the whole series with English subtitles.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjernevask

        The basic M.O. of the show is that he interviews Norwegian "experts" or officials or NPO staff to get the Scandinavian politically correct story, and then he interviews skeptics, most of whom are in the U.S. or U.K., but there are few sane Norwegian experts left. He manages to interview some really famous people, like Borat's cousin, Simon Baron-Cohen, evo-pysch pioneer David Buss, Gregory Cochran, Charles Murray, Richard Lynn, and Richard Nisbett, as well as Steven Pinker himself.

        The show is fairly lighthearted, but there was quite a protest when it first aired, and one of interviewees moved out of Norway for a few years to escape the notoriety. Eia is truly a master of getting people to destroy themselves in interviews. He's a funny, friendly, self-deprecating version of Isaac Chotiner.

        The episodes:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E577jhf25t4

        Episodes continue after the break:



        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdE3EsOafY

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=150QBUAisoo

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxQFyxdDz4

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TMDFD1s4WY

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ1hK5WsHZ4

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biP_OGHFw80

        The show is fairly lighthearted, but there was quite a protest when it first aired…

        Whatever you do, don’t let his enemies find the anagram sites, ours or theirs.

        Harald Eia =

        Liar ahead.

        Hjernevask =

        Shaven jerk.
        Ha skjerven. (Have the beard.)
        Avskjer hen. (Hate them.)

      22. There is enough evidence to put a stop to adolescent gender replumbing freakshow given that it is well understood that some mental/physical disorders are highly suggestible and arise as a response to social recognition. Edward Shorter, the medical historian, identified the concept of the ‘symptom pool’ to denote behaviours that become recognized as markers of some kind of psychological disturbance, and whfich are thereafter picked up by people who seek a socially- and medically-sanctioned means of expressing their distress. Anorexia is the best example of this. Historically, there are not a lot of people who have deliberately starved themselves for any reason, but once you start identifying them as ‘girls with body image problems’ more of them magically appear. It’s a medical chicken-and-egg situation.

        This was demonstrated in Hong Kong in the mid-90s. Dr. Sing Lee, a specialist in eating disorders, had noticed that there were very few anorexics in Chinese culture right up to the point the one of his rare food-averse patients starved herself to death; the media imported the concept of ‘anorexia’ from the US to describe what had happened, after which he had more anorexics on his hands. Shorter emphasizes that people who present with these suggestible disorders are not consciously lying (in fact, they often have obvious physical symptoms), but they are picking up on social cues that offer them ways of working out their anxieties without being ignored. It is no surprise that adolescent girls experience gender dysphoria, given that feminists are busy telling them a) how horrible it is to be a woman and b) gender is a social construct, so they figure they can get the attention they want by becoming boys. The anorexics got help. These girls get their lives ruined, because wokeness.

        • Agree: RichardTaylor
        • Replies: @Steve Sailer
        Mental illnesses seem to vary from era to era in some ways.
        , @Dtbb
        I have been saying since I was much younger that once a condition is given a name it automatically begats itself. Some old friends now agree after mocking me for decades.
      23. @Russ

        Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.
         
        Unquestionably the prime impetus. Unlike the U.S., in which the boys will be girls to win medals in the girls' athletic events.

        Unquestionably the prime impetus.

        You all are assuming that Middle Easterners won’t rape little boys, adolescents and even men.

      24. @Andy
        But why in ultra feminist Sweden would a girl want to identify as a boy?

        These aren’t girls who want to be boys, these are girls who want attention.

        Hate to keep reposting this, but it doesn’t seem to be catching on: a lot of this is completely heterosexual women just randomly declaring themselves “genderqueer” and continuing to be heterosexual women, but officially joining the LGBTQETC COMMUNITY and becoming SPECIAL and UNIQUE.

        • Replies: @anon
        Hate to keep reposting this, but it doesn’t seem to be catching on:

        Why do you suppose your claim isn't catching on?
        Have you tried offering evidence to support it?
        , @Dube
        These aren’t girls who want to be boys, these are girls who want attention.

        Ockham's razor. The rest is noise.

        As Steve notes wryly:

        As we all know, 13 to 17-year-old girls are utterly immune to fashions and fads.
        , @Andrew M
        “Hate to keep reposting this, but...”

        You’re doing fine. The best opinion writers (including Steve) have to repeat their arguments ad nauseam because people consistently fail to spot patterns. And as we all know, pattern-spotting is hate-think.
      25. @Anon
        You can get an idea of what sort of people are running things in Scandinavia by watching the Norwegian documentary series Hjernevask ("Brainwash"). It was conceived and hosted by a popular Norwegian comedian named Harald Eia. Eia had majored in sociology in college, but after he read Steven Pinker's book Blank Slate he decided to do a documentary on the craziness surrounded gender/sex, nature/nurture, with violence and race thrown in for good measure. YouTube has the whole series with English subtitles.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjernevask

        The basic M.O. of the show is that he interviews Norwegian "experts" or officials or NPO staff to get the Scandinavian politically correct story, and then he interviews skeptics, most of whom are in the U.S. or U.K., but there are few sane Norwegian experts left. He manages to interview some really famous people, like Borat's cousin, Simon Baron-Cohen, evo-pysch pioneer David Buss, Gregory Cochran, Charles Murray, Richard Lynn, and Richard Nisbett, as well as Steven Pinker himself.

        The show is fairly lighthearted, but there was quite a protest when it first aired, and one of interviewees moved out of Norway for a few years to escape the notoriety. Eia is truly a master of getting people to destroy themselves in interviews. He's a funny, friendly, self-deprecating version of Isaac Chotiner.

        The episodes:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E577jhf25t4

        Episodes continue after the break:



        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdE3EsOafY

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=150QBUAisoo

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPxQFyxdDz4

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TMDFD1s4WY

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ1hK5WsHZ4

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biP_OGHFw80

        There’s a very iStevey moment in one of these where Harald asks an African athlete for coaching in running, and the African says “yes,” and then Harald asks if, with this coaching, he would ever be as fast as the African, and the African says, “No.”

      26. @Lot
        These aren’t girls who want to be boys, these are girls who want attention.

        Hate to keep reposting this, but it doesn’t seem to be catching on: a lot of this is completely heterosexual women just randomly declaring themselves “genderqueer” and continuing to be heterosexual women, but officially joining the LGBTQETC COMMUNITY and becoming SPECIAL and UNIQUE.

        Hate to keep reposting this, but it doesn’t seem to be catching on:

        Why do you suppose your claim isn’t catching on?
        Have you tried offering evidence to support it?

      27. @Thomm
        No chance.

        The entire basis of transgenderism (which is 95% MtF), is because women are vastly better treated than men in all advanced Protestant democracies.

        They are simply trying to be in the vastly more favored group.

        but in this case, we are talking of girls wanting to become boys, which seems very strange in a very feminist country like Sweden. Unlike they were just crying for attention.

      28. @rational actor
        There is enough evidence to put a stop to adolescent gender replumbing freakshow given that it is well understood that some mental/physical disorders are highly suggestible and arise as a response to social recognition. Edward Shorter, the medical historian, identified the concept of the 'symptom pool' to denote behaviours that become recognized as markers of some kind of psychological disturbance, and whfich are thereafter picked up by people who seek a socially- and medically-sanctioned means of expressing their distress. Anorexia is the best example of this. Historically, there are not a lot of people who have deliberately starved themselves for any reason, but once you start identifying them as 'girls with body image problems' more of them magically appear. It's a medical chicken-and-egg situation.

        This was demonstrated in Hong Kong in the mid-90s. Dr. Sing Lee, a specialist in eating disorders, had noticed that there were very few anorexics in Chinese culture right up to the point the one of his rare food-averse patients starved herself to death; the media imported the concept of 'anorexia' from the US to describe what had happened, after which he had more anorexics on his hands. Shorter emphasizes that people who present with these suggestible disorders are not consciously lying (in fact, they often have obvious physical symptoms), but they are picking up on social cues that offer them ways of working out their anxieties without being ignored. It is no surprise that adolescent girls experience gender dysphoria, given that feminists are busy telling them a) how horrible it is to be a woman and b) gender is a social construct, so they figure they can get the attention they want by becoming boys. The anorexics got help. These girls get their lives ruined, because wokeness.

        Mental illnesses seem to vary from era to era in some ways.

        • Replies: @Altai
        But these are all based around being 'accepted' and having a horrible sense of personal disgust and shame like somebody with BPD. Some of the appeal with sex change also seems to stem from sexual abuse and a desire to escape their sexuality which is now tainted and a source of fear, shame and anxiety.

        Anorexia: I'm unacceptable because I'm too fat.
        Transgender: I'm unacceptable because I'm a girl.

        And all these accoutrements that BPDs attain like the bowel cuts, unnatural hair colours, septum piercings, all designed to signal distress or at least garner attention at all costs.

        The coping mechanisms might change, but the underlying psychology doesn't seem to very much.
        , @YetAnotherAnon
        Only ten or fifteen years back "self-harm" was all the rage among British teenage girls, lots of Guardian and BBC pieces. It's completely dropped off the radar now.

        Talking of mentally fragile Swedes, the Thunbergs spill the beans (and have a book to sell you).

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/23/great-thunberg-malena-ernman-our-house-is-on-fire-memoir-extract

        "We carried on like that for 12 years. It was arduous but great fun. We spent two months in each city and then moved on. Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona. Round and round. We spent the summers in Glyndebourne, Salzburg or Aix-en-Provence. As you do when you’re good at singing opera and other classical music. I rehearsed 20 to 30 hours a week and the rest of the time we spent together.

        Beata was born three years after Greta and we bought a Volvo V70 so we’d have room for doll’s houses, teddy bears and tricycles. Those were fantastic years. Our life was marvellous."
         
        For 11 of those 12 years, they were transporting a child (or two) round Europe with them. What I can't work out, and they don't say, is how those kids were schooled. Did they leave them or take them, and if so, what kind of social life does a kid get, moving schools every two months?

        One evening in the autumn of 2014, Svante and I sat slumped on our bathroom floor in Stockholm. It was late, the children were asleep. Everything was starting to fall apart around us. Greta was 11, had just started fifth grade, and was not doing well. She cried at night when she should be sleeping. She cried on her way to school. She cried in her classes and during her breaks, and the teachers called home almost every day. Svante had to run off and bring her home to Moses, our golden retriever. She sat with him for hours, petting him and stroking his fur. She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness and little by little, bit by bit, she seemed to stop functioning. She stopped playing the piano. She stopped laughing. She stopped talking. And she stopped eating.
         
        The parents decide to drop touring Europe.

        “We’ll cancel everything. Every last contract,” Svante went on. “Madrid, Zurich, Vienna, Brussels. Everything.”

        Too late?

        Svante and Greta have been at the end-of-term ceremony at school where they tried to make themselves invisible in the corridors and stairwells. When students openly point and laugh at you – even though you’re walking alongside your parent – then things have gone too far. Way too far...

        For a full year, the stories keep coming. Svante and I inform the school, but the school isn’t sympathetic. Their understanding of the situation is different. It’s Greta’s own fault, the school thinks; several children have said repeatedly that Greta has behaved strangely and spoken too softly and never says hello. The latter they write in an email.

        They write worse things than that, which is lucky for us, because when we report the school to the Swedish schools inspectorate we’re on a firm footing and there’s no doubt that the inspectorate will rule in our favour.

        I explain to Greta that she’ll have friends again, later. But her response is always the same. “I don’t want to have a friend. Friends are children and all children are mean.”

         
        Sad!

        Our daughter has Asperger’s, high-functioning autism and OCD, obsessive-compulsive disorder. “We could formally diagnose her with selective mutism, too, but that often goes away on its own with time,” the doctor tells us. We aren’t surprised. Basically, this was the conclusion we drew several months ago.

        On the way out, Beata calls to tell us she’s having dinner with a friend, and I feel a sting of guilt. Soon we’ll take care of you too, darling...

        She has started at a new school. I’ve cleared my calendar and put work on the back burner. But while we’re full up with taking care of Greta, Beata’s having more and more of a tough time. In school everything is ticking along. But at home she falls apart, crashes. She can’t stand being with us at all any more. Everything Svante and I do upsets her and in our company she can lose control. She is clearly is not feeling well.

        One day near her 11th birthday I find her standing in the living room, hurling DVDs from the bookshelf down the spiral staircase to the kitchen. “You only care about Greta. Never about me. I hate you, Mum."
         
        Flaming fish. Still, at least her parents had a marvellous life. Pity abut the kids.

        It’s autumn 2015 when Beata undergoes an evaluation for various neurodevelopmental disorders. She is diagnosed with ADHD, with elements of Asperger’s, OCD and ODD [oppositional defiant disorder].

         
        , @ic1000
        > Mental illnesses seem to vary from era to era in some ways.

        Perhaps it would help to get the Director-General of the WHO involved.

        The greatest enemy we face is not the surgical-chemical mutilation and permanent sterility inflicted upon hundreds of dysphoric Swedish girls annually; it’s the stigma that turns us against the Establishment figures who are promoting this medical fad.
      29. @Anon
        In the New York Times today is an article about how some trouble-making activist Google employees tried to protest some of Google's projects like research on A.I. for drones for the military. They got fired.

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html

        The Times sent a photographer named Bobby Doherty to photograph six of the uppity ex-Googlers. Half of them are clearly trannies: Rebecca R., Kathryn S., and Irene K. Two I'd say with 70 percent certainty are women-born-women, and one I'd say with 90 percent certainty is a guy.

        I'm sure that half of Google's employees cannot be trans, but I wonder how many are. Maybe autogynes self select as aggressive activists, but still, fifty percent of the activists interviewed is really high. Maybe activist normals are more attuned to context and culture and manage to not aggravate their bosses as much?

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google/23mag-google-superJumbo.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-04/23mag-google-04-master675.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-06/23mag-google-06-master675.jpg

        The Federal Trade Commission should add the percentage of the work force that is transgender to its factor test in determining if a business is a monopoly.

      30. @Reg Cæsar

        New health report and TV debates highlight backlash against gender reassignment
        by Richard Orange
         
        I like how we're told all this by an Orange, Dick.

        Malou von Sivers
         
        From Swedish Wikipedia, through the Google Translate colander:

        Bakgrund
        Malou von Sivers växte upp i Stockholm[2] och Täby.[3] Hon har bland annat i Sommar i P1 2016 berättat hur hon som barn blev misshandlad av fadern, men att familjen på ytan var en mönsterfamilj.[4] Föräldrarna separerade när hon var 17 år.[5] Hennes farfar Gustaf von Sivers och morfar Nimrod Dahlström var båda företagsledare.

        von Sivers har bakgrund som kvällstidningsreporter på både Aftonbladet och Expressen, där hon gjorde flera uppmärksammade wallraff och reportage, ofta med en feministisk vinkel.[6] Exempelvis gjorde hon artikelserier om äldrevården där hon bland annat wallraffade som biträde, skrev reportage om psykvården där hon följde kuratorn Barbro Sandins arbete med att hjälpa unga schizofrena män och en uppmärksammad serie om belastningsskador.

        1987 startade hon tidningen Elle i Sverige och verkade där som chefredaktör.[6]


        Background
        Malou von Sivers grew up in Stockholm [2] and Täby. [3] Among other things, in Summer in P1 2016, she told how she, as a child, was abused by her father, but that the family on the surface was a pattern family. [4] The parents separated when she was 17. [5] Her grandfather Gustaf von Sivers and grandfather Nimrod Dahlström were both business leaders.

        von Sivers has background as evening newspaper reporter at both Aftonbladet and Expressen, where she made several well-known wallraff and reportage, often with a feminist angle. [6] For example, she did articles on the elderly care, where she, among other things, crippled as an assistant, wrote a report on the psychiatric care where she followed the curator Barbro Sandin's work to help young schizophrenic men and an attention-grabbing series about stress injuries.

        In 1987 she started the magazine Elle in Sweden and worked there as editor-in-chief. [6]


         
        Is she a womyn-born-womyn, or a transitionee herself? Or a TERF?

        Just having a von in her name is suspicious anywhere in Scandinavia. It suggests an upper-class, snobbish, German-derived upbringing.


        I just saw a charming German movie with a hyperpolyglot actress named <a href="Nora Tschirner. (Why isn't she busy in Hollywood?) Looking her up, I found a European gossip-verification site. Then I noticed Greta Thunberg on it, too. The rumors they examined for Greta were such as, "Did she secretly marry her boyfriend?", "Is she pregnant?", "Is she gay and in the closet?" All of these were scotched.

        Then I went back to Nora's page, and saw that she had the exact same rumors, right down to the last word. In other words, a bot. All of these were scotched for Nora, as well.

        Actually it suggests being part of the swedish nobility.
        Which is upper class.

      31. @Anon
        In the New York Times today is an article about how some trouble-making activist Google employees tried to protest some of Google's projects like research on A.I. for drones for the military. They got fired.

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html

        The Times sent a photographer named Bobby Doherty to photograph six of the uppity ex-Googlers. Half of them are clearly trannies: Rebecca R., Kathryn S., and Irene K. Two I'd say with 70 percent certainty are women-born-women, and one I'd say with 90 percent certainty is a guy.

        I'm sure that half of Google's employees cannot be trans, but I wonder how many are. Maybe autogynes self select as aggressive activists, but still, fifty percent of the activists interviewed is really high. Maybe activist normals are more attuned to context and culture and manage to not aggravate their bosses as much?

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google/23mag-google-superJumbo.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-04/23mag-google-04-master675.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-06/23mag-google-06-master675.jpg

        A lot of MtF trans critters do it because life as an ugly woman in Current Year America is much more agreeable than life as an unattractive male. Then there are some who had looks and lost them due to the aging process, and something similar applies.

      32. @Lot
        These aren’t girls who want to be boys, these are girls who want attention.

        Hate to keep reposting this, but it doesn’t seem to be catching on: a lot of this is completely heterosexual women just randomly declaring themselves “genderqueer” and continuing to be heterosexual women, but officially joining the LGBTQETC COMMUNITY and becoming SPECIAL and UNIQUE.

        These aren’t girls who want to be boys, these are girls who want attention.

        Ockham’s razor. The rest is noise.

        As Steve notes wryly:

        As we all know, 13 to 17-year-old girls are utterly immune to fashions and fads.

      33. The trans phenomenon reminds me of some of Ian Hacking’s work, the notion that some aspects of psychological disorders may be the result of social contagion. For example:

        In Mad Travelers Hacking uses fugue as a case study to examine why it is that some mental disorders appear to thrive only at a particular place and time, or to be, as he puts it, “transient”. Hacking suggests that plausible examples of other transient mental disorders include multiple personality disorder, anorexia nervosa and pre-menstrual syndrome. In all these cases we feel that patients really suffer from something, and yet the recent emergence of the disorder and the extent to which it appears culturally shaped make us hesitate when it comes to saying whether the disorder is “real”.

        https://metapsychology.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=book&id=125&cn=394

        Other books Hacking books which may contain relevant material are:

        The Social Construction of What

        https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/841374.The_Social_Construction_of_What_

        and

        Rewriting the Soul

        It may have been in one of Hacking’s books (it’s a while since I read them), or somewhere else, but I recall reading that what used to be called hysterical disorders, such as functional paralysis etc., about which Freud and the early psychoanalysts made much, declined drastically in popularity by sometime in the 1920s or so compared to the period from about 1890 to 1910. They declined as psychoanalytic explanations became popular, at least in sophisticated centers. but they remained popular in backwaters in which people were unaware their symptoms were transparent to some.

        If this is an accurate account, it’s remarkable, and it seems to fit the situation with the popularity of trans phenomena. It’s as though there’s fashion in disorders somewhat as there is in clothes. This is not to suggest that there are no biological aspects to this, just that “fashion” is mixed in there, and sometimes it’s a large component of the mix.

        • Agree: Bardon Kaldian
      34. This is basically a giant cry for help from girls with BPD but the LGBT lobby has brow-beat everyone into not saying anything about it. And modern feminism has declared that noticing BPD in women is sexist. It’s fascinating to me how the transgender debate surrounds boys and men despite this cohort being the key one to emerge since 2014. The bulk of those who have undergone childhood and adolescent SRS will be from these people. It’s not just Sweden, the same phenomena is happening across the Western world most severely in those places with native or high second language proficiency in English.

        A good example is Super Awesome Sylvia.

        She now claims to be a boy named ‘Zephyrus’ (https://twitter.com/makerzeph) and has a GoFundMe for a double mastectomy. (https://www.gofundme.com/f/zeph039s-top-surgery-fund) Like all the others she has a septum piercing which is basically diagnostic for BPD and about the least masculine thing in the world yet they all seem to get them just around the time they claim to be boys…

        Another is Lachlan Watson whose ‘deadname’ I couldn’t find, it’s been scrubbed from the internet. She plays a girl named Suzie with BPD (In terms of her behaviour) in ‘The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina’ (She had input into the role and seems to have been playing herself, telling…) who later ‘realises’ she is a boy and changes her name to Theo and tries to play basketball despite being short and weak. Sabrina uses her magical powers to make her supernaturally good at basketball at the try-outs. (Which is nice, at least they didn’t have the character be better than the much taller athletic guys to prove everyone wrong.) Watson also sports a septum piercing, the most masculine of all things. Unlike ‘Zephyrus’ she has actually had her double-mastectomy. (‘Top surgery’) Though tellingly, she often still just wears dresses, makeup and nail polish.

        Here is another video of her in a ‘discussion’ with Liv Hewson (A woman who looks and act feminine but somehow insists everyone use ‘they’ pronouns with her), Jacob Tobia (A man for whom the term ‘troon’ was made) and an Indian guy who seems determined to be anything other than gay despite obviously just being gay. The comments below are hilarious, lots of teenage and young women saying how they don’t understand any of it but feel for everyone.

        There’s also a really messed up scene where she uses magic to turn herself into a boy (Her height and face don’t change though, which just makes it so funny) but it goes wrong and she has to amputate her arm… It’s like the writers wanted to be trans-affirming but they keep just showing her as insane with the disturbing apparition of a long-dead ancestor (With a southern twang as all sinister ancestral ghosts must have) that only she can see, telling her to become trans and in the process offer up one of the most subversive depictions possibly in the current year of a deeply emotionally and mentally unstable girl desperate to be accepted as a boy as a coping mechanism for her mental illness or perhaps a cry for help.

        • Replies: @El Dato

        Sabrina uses her magical powers to make her supernaturally good at basketball at the try-outs. (Which is nice, at least they didn’t have the character be better than the much taller athletic guys to prove everyone wrong.) Watson also sports a septum piercing, the most masculine of all things. Unlike ‘Zephyrus’ she has actually had her double-mastectomy. (‘Top surgery’) Though tellingly, she often still just wears dresses, makeup and nail polish.
         
        This should have all remained in the domain of anime & manga.
        , @James N. Kennett

        This is basically a giant cry for help from girls with BPD but the LGBT lobby has brow-beat everyone into not saying anything about it.
         
        I'm not convinced that BPD is the cause. BPD is supposed to afflict 1.6% of the population - or 0.8% of men and 2.4% of women. If all girls with BPD wanted to become boys, this would be a large number; but still less than one girl on average in each class. Instead, a kind of contagion is reported, especially in girls' schools. I would be inclined to suspect general teenage acting-up.

        And modern feminism has declared that noticing BPD in women is sexist.
         
        BPD is three times as common in women as men, and so its existence is an affront to feminist ideology.
      35. Aldous Huxley’s Devils of Loudon may be about something similar, but with sexual hysteria as the central phenomenon.

      36. @Anon 2
        Somewhat OT:

        The United States is running out of white people (for example, American
        children are already majority nonwhite). This, along with (1) Low fertility
        rates (i.e., there are few children around), and (2) Hollywood’s and New
        York’s systematic removal of whites from movies, TV, and commercials,
        is producing all sorts of bizarre effects (not to say secret vices) among,
        particularly, white women:

        1. This was reported several years ago: childless white women, who number
        in the millions, are so starved for the images of white children and happy large white
        families that they sometimes become addicted to the blogs run by Mormon
        women, showing photos of their large broods who seem to be bursting with
        joy and radiant health;

        2. Americans have discovered that thanks to the miracle of the Internet they
        can now satisfy their craving for white faces by watching European films and
        TV shows on YouTube, Netflix, and other media. Women, specifically, can
        get their fill of white children singing and dancing by watching Voice Kids
        shows from Europe (the U.S. doesn’t have Voice Kids yet) which are available
        on YouTube. Several countries have them. Voice Kids Poland seems to be
        particularly popular in the U.S., perhaps due to the large Polish-American
        population;

        3. The craving for beautiful white faces is, of course, not limited to white
        women. The website Quora has many answers to questions of the type “What
        do beautiful Swedish women look like?” It turns out that the galleries of
        beautiful white women from different countries are often upvoted by black
        men who apparently cannot get enough of looking at very attractive white
        girls.

        Few things undermine the self-esteem of nonwhite women (and many men
        too) as much as the images of white beauty, so in our totalitarian future they
        will be even more systematically removed from the public sphere than they
        are now, and with the craziness overtaking this country they might become
        completely forbidden.

        That’s…interesting. The irony is, some of the most virulent anti-white agitators have been liberal white women, particularly those from the Millennial generation. I guess its “do as I say, but not as I do…”

      37. @Lot
        These aren’t girls who want to be boys, these are girls who want attention.

        Hate to keep reposting this, but it doesn’t seem to be catching on: a lot of this is completely heterosexual women just randomly declaring themselves “genderqueer” and continuing to be heterosexual women, but officially joining the LGBTQETC COMMUNITY and becoming SPECIAL and UNIQUE.

        “Hate to keep reposting this, but…”

        You’re doing fine. The best opinion writers (including Steve) have to repeat their arguments ad nauseam because people consistently fail to spot patterns. And as we all know, pattern-spotting is hate-think.

      38. @Steve Sailer
        Mental illnesses seem to vary from era to era in some ways.

        But these are all based around being ‘accepted’ and having a horrible sense of personal disgust and shame like somebody with BPD. Some of the appeal with sex change also seems to stem from sexual abuse and a desire to escape their sexuality which is now tainted and a source of fear, shame and anxiety.

        Anorexia: I’m unacceptable because I’m too fat.
        Transgender: I’m unacceptable because I’m a girl.

        And all these accoutrements that BPDs attain like the bowel cuts, unnatural hair colours, septum piercings, all designed to signal distress or at least garner attention at all costs.

        The coping mechanisms might change, but the underlying psychology doesn’t seem to very much.

        • Agree: El Dato
        • Replies: @Altai
        Actually here is another good example. Stephen Spielberg's adopted daughter. She says she suffered sexual abuse and grooming from an early age (By people she refuses to name but who are apparently not a part of her family's 'inner circle'. But one presumes were of Hollywood.) which led to:

        The alleged abuse contributed to Mikaela's mental health issues, which she said included anorexia, borderline personality disorder and alcoholism. But seeing therapists over the years has helped her deal with her issues.

         
        https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/steven-spielberg-daughter-mikaela-reveals-abuse-by-predators-pursues-career-adult-entertainer/c242ab00-5313-4e0b-9e95-86d9aaca0cb5

        She is now doing porn at the age of 23 (In a pro capacity, apparently she'd been making amateur videos for who knows whose consumption during her adolescence) to:

        The daughter of legendary director Steven Spielberg has revealed she recently embarked on a career in the adult entertainment industry.

        In a candid interview with The Sun, Mikaela Spielberg, 23, said the decision has made her feel empowered and given her newfound confidence, and her father and actress mother, Kate Capshaw, are completely supportive.

        "This is a positive, empowering choice, I realised there is no shame in having a fascination with this industry and wanting to do something that is safe, sane, consensual," Mikaela told the publication.
         
        If she was a couple years younger she might have 'transitioned' to deal with her angst.
      39. @Anon
        In the New York Times today is an article about how some trouble-making activist Google employees tried to protest some of Google's projects like research on A.I. for drones for the military. They got fired.

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html

        The Times sent a photographer named Bobby Doherty to photograph six of the uppity ex-Googlers. Half of them are clearly trannies: Rebecca R., Kathryn S., and Irene K. Two I'd say with 70 percent certainty are women-born-women, and one I'd say with 90 percent certainty is a guy.

        I'm sure that half of Google's employees cannot be trans, but I wonder how many are. Maybe autogynes self select as aggressive activists, but still, fifty percent of the activists interviewed is really high. Maybe activist normals are more attuned to context and culture and manage to not aggravate their bosses as much?

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google/23mag-google-superJumbo.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-04/23mag-google-04-master675.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-06/23mag-google-06-master675.jpg

        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well. It also means they take rules literally, so when Google says “don’t be evil”, they really believe it; unlike the rest of us who understand that it’s just corporate branding bs. Finally, as Steve has mentioned once or twice before, quite a few MtF trannies seem to have Aspergers.

        • Replies: @El Dato

        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance.
         
        I have never heard that Asperger-Affected-Ones has such a symptom?

        This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well.
         
        That's just wrong. Try computing nuances (in the way of tradeoffs, uncertainties, unclarities etc. et.c) in all manner of dimensions both in the problem space (what you want to solve) and the solution space (how to solve it) will be felt most painfully. In fact, this is why "computing" consists not mostly in coding (a whish-fullfillment fantasy both of freshman coders and the completely clueless bosses) but in curating information. describing the problem, thinking hard, applying math, writing documents and connecting with the environment, i.e. people.
        , @YetAnotherAnon
        "The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing..."

        Not really. Very few programmers deal in zeros and ones, though its true that one has total control in the programming world, which is rare outside it. It's just that male minds like things, and spergs like things a lot. Yesterdays version of programmers might have been amateur radio/electronics guys, always with burns from soldering irons, before that maybe trainspotter/railway buffs who knew all about the signalling systems.

        I spent a couple of days last summer camping by a heritage railway in England and at night drank in the local pub with the volunteers, many of whom were retired, fit, and there for the summer. Some serious brain-power among that crowd, I was surprised.
        , @Gruhn
        On the (smart geeks)(they let me in on a bet) campus chat system way back in the day. Some kid whines “why do you always have to use fancy words? Why do you have to say ‘azure’? Can’t you just say ‘blue’ lime normal people?” “Because it was azure. You’re a CS major? Aspiring to a profession where the precise use of language is key?”
        , @Daniel Chieh
        I asset that I do have Asperger’s and nuance irritates me more often than not. I've often longed to be born in the days when I could be a proper fundamentalist and be done with it.
        , @Dissident

        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance.
         
        I don't recall anything about that from what I've read about Asperger's Syndrome, though it's been quite a while now. I definitely do recall, though, finding a great deal that seemed to describe myself. I strongly suspect that many would find my posting history here at Unz, or even any number of my comments taken individually, as reflective of the thinking of an individual who is on the Autism spectrum.

        Do I have "a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance"? While I can see how some of my comments could suggest such a mindset, there are at least as many that I would contend (and I strongly suspect others would concur) demonstrate very much the opposite. (For any number of such comments, I suspect that, if anything, I would/have been faulted for delving too far into nuance.)

        Where do I fit in with regard to "gender identity"*? While I have never been an exemplar of masculinity, I have also never labored under any illusions that I am, objectively, anything other than fully male. Nor have I ever desired to pretend otherwise. The one possible/partial exception to this was a (thankfully) brief phase I went through as a young child, around the time I first became consciously aware of the most basic difference between the sexes, of expressing a desire to be a girl. As I have expressed here before, I shudder to think what might possibly have happened had this early childhood foolishness been indulged as it might very well have been had I been born several decades later than I was.

        *Gender, let it not be forgotten, is but a linguistic construct.
      40. @rational actor
        There is enough evidence to put a stop to adolescent gender replumbing freakshow given that it is well understood that some mental/physical disorders are highly suggestible and arise as a response to social recognition. Edward Shorter, the medical historian, identified the concept of the 'symptom pool' to denote behaviours that become recognized as markers of some kind of psychological disturbance, and whfich are thereafter picked up by people who seek a socially- and medically-sanctioned means of expressing their distress. Anorexia is the best example of this. Historically, there are not a lot of people who have deliberately starved themselves for any reason, but once you start identifying them as 'girls with body image problems' more of them magically appear. It's a medical chicken-and-egg situation.

        This was demonstrated in Hong Kong in the mid-90s. Dr. Sing Lee, a specialist in eating disorders, had noticed that there were very few anorexics in Chinese culture right up to the point the one of his rare food-averse patients starved herself to death; the media imported the concept of 'anorexia' from the US to describe what had happened, after which he had more anorexics on his hands. Shorter emphasizes that people who present with these suggestible disorders are not consciously lying (in fact, they often have obvious physical symptoms), but they are picking up on social cues that offer them ways of working out their anxieties without being ignored. It is no surprise that adolescent girls experience gender dysphoria, given that feminists are busy telling them a) how horrible it is to be a woman and b) gender is a social construct, so they figure they can get the attention they want by becoming boys. The anorexics got help. These girls get their lives ruined, because wokeness.

        I have been saying since I was much younger that once a condition is given a name it automatically begats itself. Some old friends now agree after mocking me for decades.

      41. @Andrew M
        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well. It also means they take rules literally, so when Google says “don’t be evil”, they really believe it; unlike the rest of us who understand that it’s just corporate branding bs. Finally, as Steve has mentioned once or twice before, quite a few MtF trannies seem to have Aspergers.

        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance.

        I have never heard that Asperger-Affected-Ones has such a symptom?

        This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well.

        That’s just wrong. Try computing nuances (in the way of tradeoffs, uncertainties, unclarities etc. et.c) in all manner of dimensions both in the problem space (what you want to solve) and the solution space (how to solve it) will be felt most painfully. In fact, this is why “computing” consists not mostly in coding (a whish-fullfillment fantasy both of freshman coders and the completely clueless bosses) but in curating information. describing the problem, thinking hard, applying math, writing documents and connecting with the environment, i.e. people.

      42. @RichardTaylor
        I'm going to guess most of these poor girls are considered unattractive and are going through an especially painful adolescence. A better society would give them support and not use them as cannon fodder in somebody's war against the patriarchy.

        Based on my anecdotal experience with American FtMs, I’d say some are, but a lot are pretty attractive tomboys (often Jewesses with huge milkers) who fetishize gay male relationships/want to be in a twink role. I suspect it’s teen girl fad following more than anything, but I wonder if yaoi manga (Japanese comics aimed at girls about homosexual male romance) has contributed to the massive rise of FtMs.

        • Replies: @Dissident

        I wonder if yaoi manga (Japanese comics aimed at girls about homosexual male romance) has contributed to the massive rise of FtMs.
         
        That seems quite plausible. And "vanilla" yaoi, in which the males are at least unambiguously male, is far from the worst here. The genre of Japanese cartoon-style erotic/pornographic art broadly known as hentai has many sub-genres that cover nearly every variety of freakishness and degeneracy imaginable. These include futanari, which is one of many terms in this milieu for which it can be said that if one needs to ask, one likely would rather not know.

        Countless adolescents and even pre-adolescents have been exposed to such deviancy thanks to websites in the imageboard format known as *chans. (4Chan has been the most well-known and popular but has never necessarily been the most depraved, frightening as that may seem.) Can there be any question but that exposure to such imagery can potentially influence how the still-fluid sexuality of those in their formative years ultimately settles? Indeed, I have seen comments from individuals claiming exactly such influence.
      43. @another anon

        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever
         
        If you think that few "trannies" are the movers and shakers of big policy changes, think again.

        See who is pushing for transgender agenda, and why.

        https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

        As it stands, politics is a battle of oligarchs that wield their ideologies in a great war of money. Their soldiers are professional activists invested in the permanent war between either end of the political spectrum. Their cheerleaders are media outlets that report on these wars, treat them like football games, and take the claims of these organizations to be unassailable fact, it is easy for the average person to disengage and become disaffected. Ultimately, their voice and vote does not matter. This creates a situation where ideologies such as transgenderism, an ideology that is fundamentally incoherent and experimenting on children can be accepted on the left. A situation where the punishment for not going along with the party line is a violently enforced exile.
         


        The influence these large foundations and their funders have on our politics cannot be underestimated, and it needs to be questioned. The transgender civil rights movement consists of (i) large numbers of astroturf organizations funded by billionaires with financial interest in its success, (ii) medical professionals who stand to gain from ‘selling’ transgenderism to the public (and who are happy to lie to the public about their treatments) and (iii) pharmaceutical companies that appear to be engaging in illegal off-label marketing with said medical professionals. The question of what came first-the foundations, the pharmaceutical companies, or the medical professionals -is like asking whether the chicken or the egg came first. But the fact of the matter is, all three groups stand to benefit from the transgender civil rights movement. No transgender person does.
         
        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.

        More important question is: what comes after transgenderism? What is the next big social justice cause that will make big $$$ for the right people?

        If you watch leftist spaces, you will know that polyamory is currently on the way to be mainstreamed.
        Great news if you are lawyer - imagine 12-sided marriage contracts and 12-sided divorce cases ;-)

        What will come after? My guess is transspeciesism. This will be cause that will have support from all parts of political spectrum.

        https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/nazi-furries-625x350.jpg

        Invest in fursuit manufacture and species reassignment surgery.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat

        Money and ethical superiority talks!

        By Eric Striker, who seems to be at liberty of not writing like a POW who has to make the first letters of the phrase-sequence spell out “YOU KNOW WHO” writes about the transgender top-down revolution:

        American Oligarchs I: the Pritzkers and Transgenderism

        The Pritzker family, heirs to the Hyatt Hotel, today use their estimated $29 billion dollar fortune [real or stockmarket?] to speculate on the stock market, dodge taxes, buy politicians, and rip people off with predatory banking schemes.

        The Jewish clan has made capitalist-activism, where money wrung out of working class people is used to pay for the pet projects of the anti-social left, central to their plan to radically re-engineer America. The Hyatt Hotels have been specifically targeted in the past for their atrocious working conditions, while they have also raked in large illicit profits through Superior Bank, a usurious subprime lending racket that ripped off and ruined the lives of scores of poor people. The money-lending venture so abusive it compelled the government to force the Pritzkers to pay a $460 million dollar settlement. In a functional system they would’ve gone to prison.

        One member, the billionaire Jennifer Pritzker, is a male-to-female transgender who served in the US military.

        According to research conducted by Jennifer Bilek, Jennifer’s money, along with other figures like fellow Jew and transsexual Martine Rothblatt, has put the wind in the sails of the transgender top-down revolution, granting it scientific and medical credibility through the power of their checkbooks, along with trained operatives [that is, lobbyists & people with large rolodexes?] who have helped institutionalize in the corporate world. The Pritzkers are heavily invested in the world of pharmaceuticals and science.

        Through the Tawani Foundation, Jennifer has been able to corrupt and influence the direction of the ACLU, various military academies, medical institutions (including for children) and universities.

        In recent years, Jennifer has donated millions to the University of Minnesota Medical Department’s Human Sexuality department, carved out a “Pritzker School of Medicine” at the University of Chicago, and a “Transgender Studies” chair, handpicked by Pritzker, at the University of Victoria in British Columbia, Canada. Other members of the Pritzker family donated $25 million to University of California at San Francisco’s child health department, which under the auspices of two Jews, predictably advocates for confused or ill young children to be given irreversible transsexual surgeries.

        It doesn’t sound good.

        iSteve writes:

        In the autumn of 2018, the Social Democrat-led government, under pressure from the gay, lesbian and transgender group RFSL, proposed a new law …

        I don’t care where they take their money from, fantasy-less people in leather coats and re-education centers in the wilderness were invented for such a case. It’s just normal prophylaxis. If you go around demanding that people smooch Ebola patients, you would get locked up, too.

      44. @Steve Sailer
        Mental illnesses seem to vary from era to era in some ways.

        Only ten or fifteen years back “self-harm” was all the rage among British teenage girls, lots of Guardian and BBC pieces. It’s completely dropped off the radar now.

        Talking of mentally fragile Swedes, the Thunbergs spill the beans (and have a book to sell you).

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/23/great-thunberg-malena-ernman-our-house-is-on-fire-memoir-extract

        “We carried on like that for 12 years. It was arduous but great fun. We spent two months in each city and then moved on. Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona. Round and round. We spent the summers in Glyndebourne, Salzburg or Aix-en-Provence. As you do when you’re good at singing opera and other classical music. I rehearsed 20 to 30 hours a week and the rest of the time we spent together.

        Beata was born three years after Greta and we bought a Volvo V70 so we’d have room for doll’s houses, teddy bears and tricycles. Those were fantastic years. Our life was marvellous.”

        For 11 of those 12 years, they were transporting a child (or two) round Europe with them. What I can’t work out, and they don’t say, is how those kids were schooled. Did they leave them or take them, and if so, what kind of social life does a kid get, moving schools every two months?

        One evening in the autumn of 2014, Svante and I sat slumped on our bathroom floor in Stockholm. It was late, the children were asleep. Everything was starting to fall apart around us. Greta was 11, had just started fifth grade, and was not doing well. She cried at night when she should be sleeping. She cried on her way to school. She cried in her classes and during her breaks, and the teachers called home almost every day. Svante had to run off and bring her home to Moses, our golden retriever. She sat with him for hours, petting him and stroking his fur. She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness and little by little, bit by bit, she seemed to stop functioning. She stopped playing the piano. She stopped laughing. She stopped talking. And she stopped eating.

        The parents decide to drop touring Europe.

        “We’ll cancel everything. Every last contract,” Svante went on. “Madrid, Zurich, Vienna, Brussels. Everything.”

        Too late?

        Svante and Greta have been at the end-of-term ceremony at school where they tried to make themselves invisible in the corridors and stairwells. When students openly point and laugh at you – even though you’re walking alongside your parent – then things have gone too far. Way too far…

        For a full year, the stories keep coming. Svante and I inform the school, but the school isn’t sympathetic. Their understanding of the situation is different. It’s Greta’s own fault, the school thinks; several children have said repeatedly that Greta has behaved strangely and spoken too softly and never says hello. The latter they write in an email.

        They write worse things than that, which is lucky for us, because when we report the school to the Swedish schools inspectorate we’re on a firm footing and there’s no doubt that the inspectorate will rule in our favour.

        I explain to Greta that she’ll have friends again, later. But her response is always the same. “I don’t want to have a friend. Friends are children and all children are mean.”

        Sad!

        Our daughter has Asperger’s, high-functioning autism and OCD, obsessive-compulsive disorder. “We could formally diagnose her with selective mutism, too, but that often goes away on its own with time,” the doctor tells us. We aren’t surprised. Basically, this was the conclusion we drew several months ago.

        On the way out, Beata calls to tell us she’s having dinner with a friend, and I feel a sting of guilt. Soon we’ll take care of you too, darling…

        She has started at a new school. I’ve cleared my calendar and put work on the back burner. But while we’re full up with taking care of Greta, Beata’s having more and more of a tough time. In school everything is ticking along. But at home she falls apart, crashes. She can’t stand being with us at all any more. Everything Svante and I do upsets her and in our company she can lose control. She is clearly is not feeling well.

        One day near her 11th birthday I find her standing in the living room, hurling DVDs from the bookshelf down the spiral staircase to the kitchen. “You only care about Greta. Never about me. I hate you, Mum.

        Flaming fish. Still, at least her parents had a marvellous life. Pity abut the kids.

        It’s autumn 2015 when Beata undergoes an evaluation for various neurodevelopmental disorders. She is diagnosed with ADHD, with elements of Asperger’s, OCD and ODD [oppositional defiant disorder].

        • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
        Oppositional Defiant Disorder - if that catches on as a diagnosis I can see the old Soviet "mental tribunals" making a comeback.

        "Our political opponents are mentally ill and must be incarcerated for their own safety and ours"
        , @Bardon Kaldian
        Alright, they're idiots. But, one interesting old question pops up: why do so many, virtually all people, consider that "touring the world" is some great experience? Or something transforming?

        That could be so 100 or 200 ..years before, but now one can get his curiosity about the others satisfied without moving his @ss.

        My speculation is that, apart from particular psychological features, mentally & imaginatively developed people simply don't have a need to "see the world". They know enough about it, even without seeing it, or don't find it to be much interesting (Kant, Hegel, Cauchy, Spinoza, Proust, Dante, Bach, Beethoven, J.C. Maxwell, Heidegger, Newton, ...).
      45. @Altai
        This is basically a giant cry for help from girls with BPD but the LGBT lobby has brow-beat everyone into not saying anything about it. And modern feminism has declared that noticing BPD in women is sexist. It's fascinating to me how the transgender debate surrounds boys and men despite this cohort being the key one to emerge since 2014. The bulk of those who have undergone childhood and adolescent SRS will be from these people. It's not just Sweden, the same phenomena is happening across the Western world most severely in those places with native or high second language proficiency in English.

        A good example is Super Awesome Sylvia.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTdrVHc-ZZA

        She now claims to be a boy named 'Zephyrus' (https://twitter.com/makerzeph) and has a GoFundMe for a double mastectomy. (https://www.gofundme.com/f/zeph039s-top-surgery-fund) Like all the others she has a septum piercing which is basically diagnostic for BPD and about the least masculine thing in the world yet they all seem to get them just around the time they claim to be boys...

        Another is Lachlan Watson whose 'deadname' I couldn't find, it's been scrubbed from the internet. She plays a girl named Suzie with BPD (In terms of her behaviour) in 'The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina' (She had input into the role and seems to have been playing herself, telling...) who later 'realises' she is a boy and changes her name to Theo and tries to play basketball despite being short and weak. Sabrina uses her magical powers to make her supernaturally good at basketball at the try-outs. (Which is nice, at least they didn't have the character be better than the much taller athletic guys to prove everyone wrong.) Watson also sports a septum piercing, the most masculine of all things. Unlike 'Zephyrus' she has actually had her double-mastectomy. ('Top surgery') Though tellingly, she often still just wears dresses, makeup and nail polish.

        https://66.media.tumblr.com/9201c3efe17704e9d512a7dffafcc530/tumblr_ppzfl3Ygt31r4c2ki_540.jpg


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cgkEeVUbb0

        Here is another video of her in a 'discussion' with Liv Hewson (A woman who looks and act feminine but somehow insists everyone use 'they' pronouns with her), Jacob Tobia (A man for whom the term 'troon' was made) and an Indian guy who seems determined to be anything other than gay despite obviously just being gay. The comments below are hilarious, lots of teenage and young women saying how they don't understand any of it but feel for everyone.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8z0_tXIpg

        There's also a really messed up scene where she uses magic to turn herself into a boy (Her height and face don't change though, which just makes it so funny) but it goes wrong and she has to amputate her arm... It's like the writers wanted to be trans-affirming but they keep just showing her as insane with the disturbing apparition of a long-dead ancestor (With a southern twang as all sinister ancestral ghosts must have) that only she can see, telling her to become trans and in the process offer up one of the most subversive depictions possibly in the current year of a deeply emotionally and mentally unstable girl desperate to be accepted as a boy as a coping mechanism for her mental illness or perhaps a cry for help.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoCClMPHMkY

        Sabrina uses her magical powers to make her supernaturally good at basketball at the try-outs. (Which is nice, at least they didn’t have the character be better than the much taller athletic guys to prove everyone wrong.) Watson also sports a septum piercing, the most masculine of all things. Unlike ‘Zephyrus’ she has actually had her double-mastectomy. (‘Top surgery’) Though tellingly, she often still just wears dresses, makeup and nail polish.

        This should have all remained in the domain of anime & manga.

        • Replies: @njguy73
        Turning himself into a good basketball player, or turning herself into a boy.

        Now they're just ripping off The Fairly Odd Parents.
      46. @anon
        Doubtful, Sweden is just following the US with a time lag. Search on "Rapid onset gender dysporia", it's all over the webmd world. More benefits of the unlimited blank slate myth.

        "Up 1500%" is close to meaningless without the baseline. Up "1500%" from what?

        Sweden used to give lobotomies out pretty freely. If they did that now to progtards no one would be able to tell any difference after the operation.

        Sweden used to give lobotomies out pretty freely.

        That could explain volumes ….

      47. @YetAnotherAnon
        Only ten or fifteen years back "self-harm" was all the rage among British teenage girls, lots of Guardian and BBC pieces. It's completely dropped off the radar now.

        Talking of mentally fragile Swedes, the Thunbergs spill the beans (and have a book to sell you).

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/23/great-thunberg-malena-ernman-our-house-is-on-fire-memoir-extract

        "We carried on like that for 12 years. It was arduous but great fun. We spent two months in each city and then moved on. Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona. Round and round. We spent the summers in Glyndebourne, Salzburg or Aix-en-Provence. As you do when you’re good at singing opera and other classical music. I rehearsed 20 to 30 hours a week and the rest of the time we spent together.

        Beata was born three years after Greta and we bought a Volvo V70 so we’d have room for doll’s houses, teddy bears and tricycles. Those were fantastic years. Our life was marvellous."
         
        For 11 of those 12 years, they were transporting a child (or two) round Europe with them. What I can't work out, and they don't say, is how those kids were schooled. Did they leave them or take them, and if so, what kind of social life does a kid get, moving schools every two months?

        One evening in the autumn of 2014, Svante and I sat slumped on our bathroom floor in Stockholm. It was late, the children were asleep. Everything was starting to fall apart around us. Greta was 11, had just started fifth grade, and was not doing well. She cried at night when she should be sleeping. She cried on her way to school. She cried in her classes and during her breaks, and the teachers called home almost every day. Svante had to run off and bring her home to Moses, our golden retriever. She sat with him for hours, petting him and stroking his fur. She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness and little by little, bit by bit, she seemed to stop functioning. She stopped playing the piano. She stopped laughing. She stopped talking. And she stopped eating.
         
        The parents decide to drop touring Europe.

        “We’ll cancel everything. Every last contract,” Svante went on. “Madrid, Zurich, Vienna, Brussels. Everything.”

        Too late?

        Svante and Greta have been at the end-of-term ceremony at school where they tried to make themselves invisible in the corridors and stairwells. When students openly point and laugh at you – even though you’re walking alongside your parent – then things have gone too far. Way too far...

        For a full year, the stories keep coming. Svante and I inform the school, but the school isn’t sympathetic. Their understanding of the situation is different. It’s Greta’s own fault, the school thinks; several children have said repeatedly that Greta has behaved strangely and spoken too softly and never says hello. The latter they write in an email.

        They write worse things than that, which is lucky for us, because when we report the school to the Swedish schools inspectorate we’re on a firm footing and there’s no doubt that the inspectorate will rule in our favour.

        I explain to Greta that she’ll have friends again, later. But her response is always the same. “I don’t want to have a friend. Friends are children and all children are mean.”

         
        Sad!

        Our daughter has Asperger’s, high-functioning autism and OCD, obsessive-compulsive disorder. “We could formally diagnose her with selective mutism, too, but that often goes away on its own with time,” the doctor tells us. We aren’t surprised. Basically, this was the conclusion we drew several months ago.

        On the way out, Beata calls to tell us she’s having dinner with a friend, and I feel a sting of guilt. Soon we’ll take care of you too, darling...

        She has started at a new school. I’ve cleared my calendar and put work on the back burner. But while we’re full up with taking care of Greta, Beata’s having more and more of a tough time. In school everything is ticking along. But at home she falls apart, crashes. She can’t stand being with us at all any more. Everything Svante and I do upsets her and in our company she can lose control. She is clearly is not feeling well.

        One day near her 11th birthday I find her standing in the living room, hurling DVDs from the bookshelf down the spiral staircase to the kitchen. “You only care about Greta. Never about me. I hate you, Mum."
         
        Flaming fish. Still, at least her parents had a marvellous life. Pity abut the kids.

        It’s autumn 2015 when Beata undergoes an evaluation for various neurodevelopmental disorders. She is diagnosed with ADHD, with elements of Asperger’s, OCD and ODD [oppositional defiant disorder].

         

        Oppositional Defiant Disorder – if that catches on as a diagnosis I can see the old Soviet “mental tribunals” making a comeback.

        “Our political opponents are mentally ill and must be incarcerated for their own safety and ours”

        • Replies: @Corvinus
        “Our political opponents are mentally ill and must be incarcerated for their own safety and ours”

        And the gist of Mr. Sailer's gristmill. Not direct, of course, but implied.
      48. @Thomm
        No chance.

        The entire basis of transgenderism (which is 95% MtF), is because women are vastly better treated than men in all advanced Protestant democracies.

        They are simply trying to be in the vastly more favored group.

        Not much of a source, still….

        https://www.quora.com/Are-transgender-men-female-to-male-more-common-than-transgender-women-male-to-female

        ……………
        The statistics at the time – 15 year ago suggested that the split of mtf v ftm was about 80/20 – When I set up a support organisation from 2007 to 2010 we saw a distinct change taking place with dramatically increased numbers of young trans guys seeking support – while most of the trans women we supported were over 50.
        ………………………………………..

      49. Otherwise normal tomboys infested by a lunatic ideology.

        • Agree: Rosie
        • Replies: @Rosie
        I get that LGBTQ... don't like to be told "you just haven't met the right guy (or girl) yet, but sometimes, yeah, they just haven't met the right guy yet.
      50. @YetAnotherAnon
        Only ten or fifteen years back "self-harm" was all the rage among British teenage girls, lots of Guardian and BBC pieces. It's completely dropped off the radar now.

        Talking of mentally fragile Swedes, the Thunbergs spill the beans (and have a book to sell you).

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/23/great-thunberg-malena-ernman-our-house-is-on-fire-memoir-extract

        "We carried on like that for 12 years. It was arduous but great fun. We spent two months in each city and then moved on. Berlin, Paris, Vienna, Amsterdam, Barcelona. Round and round. We spent the summers in Glyndebourne, Salzburg or Aix-en-Provence. As you do when you’re good at singing opera and other classical music. I rehearsed 20 to 30 hours a week and the rest of the time we spent together.

        Beata was born three years after Greta and we bought a Volvo V70 so we’d have room for doll’s houses, teddy bears and tricycles. Those were fantastic years. Our life was marvellous."
         
        For 11 of those 12 years, they were transporting a child (or two) round Europe with them. What I can't work out, and they don't say, is how those kids were schooled. Did they leave them or take them, and if so, what kind of social life does a kid get, moving schools every two months?

        One evening in the autumn of 2014, Svante and I sat slumped on our bathroom floor in Stockholm. It was late, the children were asleep. Everything was starting to fall apart around us. Greta was 11, had just started fifth grade, and was not doing well. She cried at night when she should be sleeping. She cried on her way to school. She cried in her classes and during her breaks, and the teachers called home almost every day. Svante had to run off and bring her home to Moses, our golden retriever. She sat with him for hours, petting him and stroking his fur. She was slowly disappearing into some kind of darkness and little by little, bit by bit, she seemed to stop functioning. She stopped playing the piano. She stopped laughing. She stopped talking. And she stopped eating.
         
        The parents decide to drop touring Europe.

        “We’ll cancel everything. Every last contract,” Svante went on. “Madrid, Zurich, Vienna, Brussels. Everything.”

        Too late?

        Svante and Greta have been at the end-of-term ceremony at school where they tried to make themselves invisible in the corridors and stairwells. When students openly point and laugh at you – even though you’re walking alongside your parent – then things have gone too far. Way too far...

        For a full year, the stories keep coming. Svante and I inform the school, but the school isn’t sympathetic. Their understanding of the situation is different. It’s Greta’s own fault, the school thinks; several children have said repeatedly that Greta has behaved strangely and spoken too softly and never says hello. The latter they write in an email.

        They write worse things than that, which is lucky for us, because when we report the school to the Swedish schools inspectorate we’re on a firm footing and there’s no doubt that the inspectorate will rule in our favour.

        I explain to Greta that she’ll have friends again, later. But her response is always the same. “I don’t want to have a friend. Friends are children and all children are mean.”

         
        Sad!

        Our daughter has Asperger’s, high-functioning autism and OCD, obsessive-compulsive disorder. “We could formally diagnose her with selective mutism, too, but that often goes away on its own with time,” the doctor tells us. We aren’t surprised. Basically, this was the conclusion we drew several months ago.

        On the way out, Beata calls to tell us she’s having dinner with a friend, and I feel a sting of guilt. Soon we’ll take care of you too, darling...

        She has started at a new school. I’ve cleared my calendar and put work on the back burner. But while we’re full up with taking care of Greta, Beata’s having more and more of a tough time. In school everything is ticking along. But at home she falls apart, crashes. She can’t stand being with us at all any more. Everything Svante and I do upsets her and in our company she can lose control. She is clearly is not feeling well.

        One day near her 11th birthday I find her standing in the living room, hurling DVDs from the bookshelf down the spiral staircase to the kitchen. “You only care about Greta. Never about me. I hate you, Mum."
         
        Flaming fish. Still, at least her parents had a marvellous life. Pity abut the kids.

        It’s autumn 2015 when Beata undergoes an evaluation for various neurodevelopmental disorders. She is diagnosed with ADHD, with elements of Asperger’s, OCD and ODD [oppositional defiant disorder].

         

        Alright, they’re idiots. But, one interesting old question pops up: why do so many, virtually all people, consider that “touring the world” is some great experience? Or something transforming?

        That could be so 100 or 200 ..years before, but now one can get his curiosity about the others satisfied without moving his @ss.

        My speculation is that, apart from particular psychological features, mentally & imaginatively developed people simply don’t have a need to “see the world”. They know enough about it, even without seeing it, or don’t find it to be much interesting (Kant, Hegel, Cauchy, Spinoza, Proust, Dante, Bach, Beethoven, J.C. Maxwell, Heidegger, Newton, …).

        • Replies: @Steve Sailer
        US Supreme Court justices, who have a lot of options on how to spend their free time, tend to spend their Augusts at the Salzburg opera festival.
        , @Alden
        The Thurnbergs weren’t touring the world. They were on an opera circuit about 1,700 miles north south and 1,000 miles east west.

        Families have to move to make a living. Look at USA military families moving all over the US and the world every 2 or 3 years.

        It wasn’t the mother’s job that made Greta so crazy.
        , @S. Anonyia
        Why do people with means want to tour the world?

        I don't know, maybe because it's human to be curious and social. Someone with money who DOESN'T get out a little bit is likely a neurotic.

        There is a difference between spending all of your time abroad (nutty) and dabbling a few times a year (normal). Most people dabble.

        Actually, uber-rich people 120 years ago probably spent more time traveling than uber-rich people now, on average. Took a lot longer to get from point A to B, plus there were fewer private entertainment options to stave off boredom.
      51. @Bardon Kaldian
        Alright, they're idiots. But, one interesting old question pops up: why do so many, virtually all people, consider that "touring the world" is some great experience? Or something transforming?

        That could be so 100 or 200 ..years before, but now one can get his curiosity about the others satisfied without moving his @ss.

        My speculation is that, apart from particular psychological features, mentally & imaginatively developed people simply don't have a need to "see the world". They know enough about it, even without seeing it, or don't find it to be much interesting (Kant, Hegel, Cauchy, Spinoza, Proust, Dante, Bach, Beethoven, J.C. Maxwell, Heidegger, Newton, ...).

        US Supreme Court justices, who have a lot of options on how to spend their free time, tend to spend their Augusts at the Salzburg opera festival.

        • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
        There you are. Focused cultural enrichment/enjoyment, not some clueless rambling.
      52. @Bill P
        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever over policy regarding children and sex ed was an even dumber idea than it was to give lesbian feminists influence over family law, and that was extremely stupid and harmful.

        But I guess the question is whether it was malice or incompetence. If the former, maybe it wasn't stupid after all.

        But I guess the question is whether it was malice or incompetence. If the former, maybe it wasn’t stupid after all.

        Pro-tip: it’s always malice.

        • Agree: ben tillman
        • Replies: @Kratoklastes
        Yep - just like Acton's misdirection about power, and Lincoln's misdirection about how many people you have to fool how often, Hanlon's Razor is a very adept misdirection about the prevalence of malice in the conspiratorial (parasitoid) classes.

        People who appeal to Hanlon's Razor are always soi-disant sophisticates.

        I prefer a paraphrase of the Fleming aphorism.

        My version: "Once is bad luck. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action".
      53. I work with a homely little eighteen-year-old female. Shaved head, check. Dyes the stubble, check. Multiple facial piercings, including the septum, check. Unconventional wardrobe, check.

        She’s supposedly queer, but I don’t know for certain, because it’s never come up between us in the workplace. She might have a male persona, too, rumor has it, but again, I don’t personally know. I call her “ma’am.”

        She’s a mess. We get along great. There’s an almost forty year age difference between us, but I treat her like a total peer, all the while keeping in mind that she IS a silly teenager doing silly teenage things, as they are wont.

        Is this a fad or a phase, something she’ll grow out of, or is she queer to the bone? Don’t know or care, really, but I want only the best for the kid, bless her.

        But if she does pursue the queer lifestyle, she’s just in for one ugly, dysfunctional, violent, needless drama-filled ride.

        Nothin’ “gay” about it.

        • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
        It's basically an old question: nature or nurture? Of course- both. But, which is decisive?
      54. @Altai
        But these are all based around being 'accepted' and having a horrible sense of personal disgust and shame like somebody with BPD. Some of the appeal with sex change also seems to stem from sexual abuse and a desire to escape their sexuality which is now tainted and a source of fear, shame and anxiety.

        Anorexia: I'm unacceptable because I'm too fat.
        Transgender: I'm unacceptable because I'm a girl.

        And all these accoutrements that BPDs attain like the bowel cuts, unnatural hair colours, septum piercings, all designed to signal distress or at least garner attention at all costs.

        The coping mechanisms might change, but the underlying psychology doesn't seem to very much.

        Actually here is another good example. Stephen Spielberg’s adopted daughter. She says she suffered sexual abuse and grooming from an early age (By people she refuses to name but who are apparently not a part of her family’s ‘inner circle’. But one presumes were of Hollywood.) which led to:

        The alleged abuse contributed to Mikaela’s mental health issues, which she said included anorexia, borderline personality disorder and alcoholism. But seeing therapists over the years has helped her deal with her issues.

        https://celebrity.nine.com.au/latest/steven-spielberg-daughter-mikaela-reveals-abuse-by-predators-pursues-career-adult-entertainer/c242ab00-5313-4e0b-9e95-86d9aaca0cb5

        She is now doing porn at the age of 23 (In a pro capacity, apparently she’d been making amateur videos for who knows whose consumption during her adolescence) to:

        The daughter of legendary director Steven Spielberg has revealed she recently embarked on a career in the adult entertainment industry.

        In a candid interview with The Sun, Mikaela Spielberg, 23, said the decision has made her feel empowered and given her newfound confidence, and her father and actress mother, Kate Capshaw, are completely supportive.

        “This is a positive, empowering choice, I realised there is no shame in having a fascination with this industry and wanting to do something that is safe, sane, consensual,” Mikaela told the publication.

        If she was a couple years younger she might have ‘transitioned’ to deal with her angst.

      55. @another anon

        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever
         
        If you think that few "trannies" are the movers and shakers of big policy changes, think again.

        See who is pushing for transgender agenda, and why.

        https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

        As it stands, politics is a battle of oligarchs that wield their ideologies in a great war of money. Their soldiers are professional activists invested in the permanent war between either end of the political spectrum. Their cheerleaders are media outlets that report on these wars, treat them like football games, and take the claims of these organizations to be unassailable fact, it is easy for the average person to disengage and become disaffected. Ultimately, their voice and vote does not matter. This creates a situation where ideologies such as transgenderism, an ideology that is fundamentally incoherent and experimenting on children can be accepted on the left. A situation where the punishment for not going along with the party line is a violently enforced exile.
         


        The influence these large foundations and their funders have on our politics cannot be underestimated, and it needs to be questioned. The transgender civil rights movement consists of (i) large numbers of astroturf organizations funded by billionaires with financial interest in its success, (ii) medical professionals who stand to gain from ‘selling’ transgenderism to the public (and who are happy to lie to the public about their treatments) and (iii) pharmaceutical companies that appear to be engaging in illegal off-label marketing with said medical professionals. The question of what came first-the foundations, the pharmaceutical companies, or the medical professionals -is like asking whether the chicken or the egg came first. But the fact of the matter is, all three groups stand to benefit from the transgender civil rights movement. No transgender person does.
         
        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.

        More important question is: what comes after transgenderism? What is the next big social justice cause that will make big $$$ for the right people?

        If you watch leftist spaces, you will know that polyamory is currently on the way to be mainstreamed.
        Great news if you are lawyer - imagine 12-sided marriage contracts and 12-sided divorce cases ;-)

        What will come after? My guess is transspeciesism. This will be cause that will have support from all parts of political spectrum.

        https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/nazi-furries-625x350.jpg

        Invest in fursuit manufacture and species reassignment surgery.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat

        I wouldn’t want a complete species transition, if for no other reason than the HUGE co-pay, but I think a long tail for balance would be pretty cool.

      56. @Andrew M
        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well. It also means they take rules literally, so when Google says “don’t be evil”, they really believe it; unlike the rest of us who understand that it’s just corporate branding bs. Finally, as Steve has mentioned once or twice before, quite a few MtF trannies seem to have Aspergers.

        “The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing…”

        Not really. Very few programmers deal in zeros and ones, though its true that one has total control in the programming world, which is rare outside it. It’s just that male minds like things, and spergs like things a lot. Yesterdays version of programmers might have been amateur radio/electronics guys, always with burns from soldering irons, before that maybe trainspotter/railway buffs who knew all about the signalling systems.

        I spent a couple of days last summer camping by a heritage railway in England and at night drank in the local pub with the volunteers, many of whom were retired, fit, and there for the summer. Some serious brain-power among that crowd, I was surprised.

      57. @Steve Sailer
        US Supreme Court justices, who have a lot of options on how to spend their free time, tend to spend their Augusts at the Salzburg opera festival.

        There you are. Focused cultural enrichment/enjoyment, not some clueless rambling.

      58. @Adolph Oliver Busch
        I work with a homely little eighteen-year-old female. Shaved head, check. Dyes the stubble, check. Multiple facial piercings, including the septum, check. Unconventional wardrobe, check.

        She's supposedly queer, but I don't know for certain, because it's never come up between us in the workplace. She might have a male persona, too, rumor has it, but again, I don't personally know. I call her "ma'am."

        She's a mess. We get along great. There's an almost forty year age difference between us, but I treat her like a total peer, all the while keeping in mind that she IS a silly teenager doing silly teenage things, as they are wont.

        Is this a fad or a phase, something she'll grow out of, or is she queer to the bone? Don't know or care, really, but I want only the best for the kid, bless her.

        But if she does pursue the queer lifestyle, she's just in for one ugly, dysfunctional, violent, needless drama-filled ride.

        Nothin' "gay" about it.

        It’s basically an old question: nature or nurture? Of course- both. But, which is decisive?

        • Replies: @Adolph Oliver Busch
        Her family is a bunch of lefty, artsy weirdos, so...
      59. @Anon
        In the New York Times today is an article about how some trouble-making activist Google employees tried to protest some of Google's projects like research on A.I. for drones for the military. They got fired.

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html

        The Times sent a photographer named Bobby Doherty to photograph six of the uppity ex-Googlers. Half of them are clearly trannies: Rebecca R., Kathryn S., and Irene K. Two I'd say with 70 percent certainty are women-born-women, and one I'd say with 90 percent certainty is a guy.

        I'm sure that half of Google's employees cannot be trans, but I wonder how many are. Maybe autogynes self select as aggressive activists, but still, fifty percent of the activists interviewed is really high. Maybe activist normals are more attuned to context and culture and manage to not aggravate their bosses as much?

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google/23mag-google-superJumbo.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-04/23mag-google-04-master675.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-06/23mag-google-06-master675.jpg

        They got fired.

        Of course.

        There is far too much money on the military gravy train for Google to cancel such a project.

        The drones will also be useful tools that will help the Deep State round up dissidents for eventual liquidation.

      60. It would be interesting to find the average attractiveness of the group of girls who claim they want to be lads. I’ll wager they tend to be less attractive, and don’t get a lot of attention from the real lads.

        Female attractiveness brings a lot of societal currency. Hence the quote, “the world lies at the feet of a beautiful woman.” The pretty girls are already getting plenty of attention. Perhaps the less endowed are turning to transgenderism to get some too.

      61. Here’s a little something to watch out for – misdiagnosis of people whose “declared” or “legal” gender is different from the gender assigned to them at birth.

        This weekend, a physician friend of mine described how he was puzzling over an apparent problem with a male patient with an obviously male name whose diagnostic testing revealed a vaginal cyst.

      62. @YetAnotherAnon
        Oppositional Defiant Disorder - if that catches on as a diagnosis I can see the old Soviet "mental tribunals" making a comeback.

        "Our political opponents are mentally ill and must be incarcerated for their own safety and ours"

        “Our political opponents are mentally ill and must be incarcerated for their own safety and ours”

        And the gist of Mr. Sailer’s gristmill. Not direct, of course, but implied.

      63. @Anon 2
        Somewhat OT:

        The United States is running out of white people (for example, American
        children are already majority nonwhite). This, along with (1) Low fertility
        rates (i.e., there are few children around), and (2) Hollywood’s and New
        York’s systematic removal of whites from movies, TV, and commercials,
        is producing all sorts of bizarre effects (not to say secret vices) among,
        particularly, white women:

        1. This was reported several years ago: childless white women, who number
        in the millions, are so starved for the images of white children and happy large white
        families that they sometimes become addicted to the blogs run by Mormon
        women, showing photos of their large broods who seem to be bursting with
        joy and radiant health;

        2. Americans have discovered that thanks to the miracle of the Internet they
        can now satisfy their craving for white faces by watching European films and
        TV shows on YouTube, Netflix, and other media. Women, specifically, can
        get their fill of white children singing and dancing by watching Voice Kids
        shows from Europe (the U.S. doesn’t have Voice Kids yet) which are available
        on YouTube. Several countries have them. Voice Kids Poland seems to be
        particularly popular in the U.S., perhaps due to the large Polish-American
        population;

        3. The craving for beautiful white faces is, of course, not limited to white
        women. The website Quora has many answers to questions of the type “What
        do beautiful Swedish women look like?” It turns out that the galleries of
        beautiful white women from different countries are often upvoted by black
        men who apparently cannot get enough of looking at very attractive white
        girls.

        Few things undermine the self-esteem of nonwhite women (and many men
        too) as much as the images of white beauty, so in our totalitarian future they
        will be even more systematically removed from the public sphere than they
        are now, and with the craziness overtaking this country they might become
        completely forbidden.

        certainly Blues eyes will soon be quite rare for Americans. 100 years ago 50% of White Americans had Blue eyes. Today just 15% of white Americans have Blue eyes. By 2070 less than 10% of Americans will have Blue eyes

        • Replies: @S. Anonyia
        You pulled the 15 percent figure out of your...

        The real figure of blue-eyed non-Hispanic whites ranges between 25-35 percent, depending on the region (Midwest has the highest percentage of whites w/ blue eyes, Northeast the least, West & South in between).

        As for why it's declining even among whites, maybe brown eyes are more adaptive to the low latitudes of most of the continental U.S? Blue-eyed people are more prone to certain health conditions like melanoma, glaucoma, and heat-related illnesses. Also, surely blue-eyed populations were more irreligious or Protestant around mid-century and thus had fewer children most of second half of the 20th century. Though that effect has likely leveled out or even reversed after the cohort born in the 90s or so.

        May see a slight uptick in blue-eyed percentages among whites a few decades from now, if current religious fertility trends w/ Hasidim, Mennonites, Amish, hardcore Evangelicals, etc continue.
      64. @Steve Sailer
        Mental illnesses seem to vary from era to era in some ways.

        > Mental illnesses seem to vary from era to era in some ways.

        Perhaps it would help to get the Director-General of the WHO involved.

        The greatest enemy we face is not the surgical-chemical mutilation and permanent sterility inflicted upon hundreds of dysphoric Swedish girls annually; it’s the stigma that turns us against the Establishment figures who are promoting this medical fad.

      65. @Anon
        In the New York Times today is an article about how some trouble-making activist Google employees tried to protest some of Google's projects like research on A.I. for drones for the military. They got fired.

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html

        The Times sent a photographer named Bobby Doherty to photograph six of the uppity ex-Googlers. Half of them are clearly trannies: Rebecca R., Kathryn S., and Irene K. Two I'd say with 70 percent certainty are women-born-women, and one I'd say with 90 percent certainty is a guy.

        I'm sure that half of Google's employees cannot be trans, but I wonder how many are. Maybe autogynes self select as aggressive activists, but still, fifty percent of the activists interviewed is really high. Maybe activist normals are more attuned to context and culture and manage to not aggravate their bosses as much?

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google/23mag-google-superJumbo.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-04/23mag-google-04-master675.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-06/23mag-google-06-master675.jpg

        Re: the NYT Magazine piece The Great Google Revolt lionizing the plucky employees who bravely protested Google’s work on AI projects for the US military, and paid the Ultimate Price for their moral stance.

        This wouldn’t by happenstance involve the project that Google cancelled at its employees’ behest, would it?

        Business Insider article from August 2019 on Thiel’s NYT Op-Ed, “Good for Google, Bad for America: At its core, artificial intelligence is a military technology. Why is the company sharing it with a rival?” Thiel took issue with Google setting up an AI lab in Beijing in 2017, while also spiking its AI military contract “Project Maven” with the Pentagon in June of 2018 after an intense employee backlash.

      66. @Andrew M
        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well. It also means they take rules literally, so when Google says “don’t be evil”, they really believe it; unlike the rest of us who understand that it’s just corporate branding bs. Finally, as Steve has mentioned once or twice before, quite a few MtF trannies seem to have Aspergers.

        On the (smart geeks)(they let me in on a bet) campus chat system way back in the day. Some kid whines “why do you always have to use fancy words? Why do you have to say ‘azure’? Can’t you just say ‘blue’ lime normal people?” “Because it was azure. You’re a CS major? Aspiring to a profession where the precise use of language is key?”

      67. @donut
        Islam is right about women , SAS is right about Swedes .

        Harold Covington was right.

        About everything.

        • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

        Harold Covington was right.

        About everything.
         
        He revered an Austrian faggot, and got deported from Rhodesia. You have a strange standard of "right".
        , @Anonymous
        He was certainly a great novelist, far underrated.

        But he had some odd ideas. I think he had the right intentions but was a little off on the details.

        His end of year all music podcast was always interesting stuff and introduced me to music I was not familiar with.
      68. “Trans activists” won’t appear on show because they’re afraid, That sounds right.

        Healthy civilization should be able to handle these people easily by confronting them head-on and making them run. Though occasionally eunuchs will oil their way into power and influence. And also the occasional “eccentric” rich guy who suddenly decides to openly wear wigs will be indulged.

      69. @another anon

        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever
         
        If you think that few "trannies" are the movers and shakers of big policy changes, think again.

        See who is pushing for transgender agenda, and why.

        https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

        As it stands, politics is a battle of oligarchs that wield their ideologies in a great war of money. Their soldiers are professional activists invested in the permanent war between either end of the political spectrum. Their cheerleaders are media outlets that report on these wars, treat them like football games, and take the claims of these organizations to be unassailable fact, it is easy for the average person to disengage and become disaffected. Ultimately, their voice and vote does not matter. This creates a situation where ideologies such as transgenderism, an ideology that is fundamentally incoherent and experimenting on children can be accepted on the left. A situation where the punishment for not going along with the party line is a violently enforced exile.
         


        The influence these large foundations and their funders have on our politics cannot be underestimated, and it needs to be questioned. The transgender civil rights movement consists of (i) large numbers of astroturf organizations funded by billionaires with financial interest in its success, (ii) medical professionals who stand to gain from ‘selling’ transgenderism to the public (and who are happy to lie to the public about their treatments) and (iii) pharmaceutical companies that appear to be engaging in illegal off-label marketing with said medical professionals. The question of what came first-the foundations, the pharmaceutical companies, or the medical professionals -is like asking whether the chicken or the egg came first. But the fact of the matter is, all three groups stand to benefit from the transgender civil rights movement. No transgender person does.
         
        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.

        More important question is: what comes after transgenderism? What is the next big social justice cause that will make big $$$ for the right people?

        If you watch leftist spaces, you will know that polyamory is currently on the way to be mainstreamed.
        Great news if you are lawyer - imagine 12-sided marriage contracts and 12-sided divorce cases ;-)

        What will come after? My guess is transspeciesism. This will be cause that will have support from all parts of political spectrum.

        https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/nazi-furries-625x350.jpg

        Invest in fursuit manufacture and species reassignment surgery.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat

        Furryism is “transgressive,” but it doesn’t offer as much by way of progressive intrusion into normality. It’s more of a fashion issue.

        Transsexualism, on the other hand, has granted people license to intrude upon a child’s upbringing and feed them drugs/cut off parts of them. Immense power.

        Not to mention forcing you into obedience over what you’re allowed to call others or notice about them. Now stating a simple fact like “that person is male” might be akin to “outing” them and a “hate” crime.

        Furryism offers no such power. Only a moderate amount of humiliation in making people say they appreciate something profoundly silly and/or gross.

        • Replies: @another anon
        Why are you so full of hate? Do you know that real conservatism have no place for bigots and pellophobes?

        https://media.thetab.com/blogs.dir/91/files/2017/03/df7514d26fa34bf6ed94ebb45a5513d71489679348688-940x480.jpeg
      70. Not only is there a fashion aspect to these mental disorders afflicting young women, there are also class and age aspects, and a resultant “churn” effect.

        Middle class white teenage girls turned to anorexia because agoraphobia became associated with older working class women . Young working class girls then copied their middle class peers and started getting anorexia too, so the posher girls moved on to gender dysphoria because anorexia has gone the way of agoraphobia and become low class.

      71. @guest
        Furryism is “transgressive,” but it doesn’t offer as much by way of progressive intrusion into normality. It’s more of a fashion issue.

        Transsexualism, on the other hand, has granted people license to intrude upon a child’s upbringing and feed them drugs/cut off parts of them. Immense power.

        Not to mention forcing you into obedience over what you’re allowed to call others or notice about them. Now stating a simple fact like “that person is male” might be akin to “outing” them and a “hate” crime.

        Furryism offers no such power. Only a moderate amount of humiliation in making people say they appreciate something profoundly silly and/or gross.

        Why are you so full of hate? Do you know that real conservatism have no place for bigots and pellophobes?

      72. @Bardon Kaldian
        It's basically an old question: nature or nurture? Of course- both. But, which is decisive?

        Her family is a bunch of lefty, artsy weirdos, so…

      73. @RichardTaylor
        I'm going to guess most of these poor girls are considered unattractive and are going through an especially painful adolescence. A better society would give them support and not use them as cannon fodder in somebody's war against the patriarchy.

        I’m going to guess most of these poor girls are considered unattractive and are going through an especially painful adolescence. A better society would give them support and not use them as cannon fodder in somebody’s war against the patriarchy.

        The simple fact of the matter is that not every girl is willing or able to conform to stereotypical gender norms. This doesn’t have to be the end of the world, but now that the suggestion of transgenderism is put in their heads, it seems like an easy answer.

        • Replies: @Dissident

        The simple fact of the matter is that not every girl is willing or able to conform to stereotypical gender norms. This doesn’t have to be the end of the world, but now that the suggestion of transgenderism is put in their heads, it seems like an easy answer.
         
        Yes, and the same could be said for boys.

        I believe that what you have written may nearly perfectly encapsulate the basic view of those behind the site 4thWaveNow, which bills itself as, A community of parents & others questioning the medicalization of gender-atypical youth. This site, which I learned of from a comment in an iSteve thread from several years back, would appear quite valuable. Particularly notable is that "the founder and primary author of 4thWaveNow" describes herself as not only "left-leaning" but also "a strong supporter of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people."
      74. @Bardon Kaldian
        Otherwise normal tomboys infested by a lunatic ideology.

        I get that LGBTQ… don’t like to be told “you just haven’t met the right guy (or girl) yet, but sometimes, yeah, they just haven’t met the right guy yet.

        • Replies: @CCZ
        Maybe they will get to meet the right guy, girl, other at Harvard Medical School.

        U.S. medical schools boost LGBTQ students, doctor training
        By Lindsey Tanner
        The Associated Press

        This past fall, Harvard’s entering class of medical students was 15% LGBTQ, a milestone that is no accident .

        The American Association of Medical College’ primary application used by U.S. schools began offering prospective students the option of specifying gender identity and preferred pronouns in 2018. Harvard’s school-specific application allows applicants to identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender or queer. A response is not required, but the option “sends a message that you’re wanted,” said Jessica Halem, the medical school’s LGBTQ outreach director.

        “We know that doctors need to look like and be a part of the communities they serve,” Halem said.

        “We have gay Muslim students. Lesbians from China. Students who are survivors of conversion therapy,” she said. “They are now out and very proud gay people and they are healing those wounds.”
      75. @Rosie
        I get that LGBTQ... don't like to be told "you just haven't met the right guy (or girl) yet, but sometimes, yeah, they just haven't met the right guy yet.

        Maybe they will get to meet the right guy, girl, other at Harvard Medical School.

        U.S. medical schools boost LGBTQ students, doctor training
        By Lindsey Tanner
        The Associated Press

        This past fall, Harvard’s entering class of medical students was 15% LGBTQ, a milestone that is no accident .

        The American Association of Medical College’ primary application used by U.S. schools began offering prospective students the option of specifying gender identity and preferred pronouns in 2018. Harvard’s school-specific application allows applicants to identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender or queer. A response is not required, but the option “sends a message that you’re wanted,” said Jessica Halem, the medical school’s LGBTQ outreach director.

        “We know that doctors need to look like and be a part of the communities they serve,” Halem said.

        “We have gay Muslim students. Lesbians from China. Students who are survivors of conversion therapy,” she said. “They are now out and very proud gay people and they are healing those wounds.”

        • Replies: @anon
        This past fall, Harvard’s entering class of medical students was 15% LGBTQ, a milestone that is no accident .

        I bet the retention rate won't be very good, and that Harvard will hide it. Because actual medical school is a high pressure environment, not a good place for the mentally unwell.
      76. @Anon 2
        Somewhat OT:

        The United States is running out of white people (for example, American
        children are already majority nonwhite). This, along with (1) Low fertility
        rates (i.e., there are few children around), and (2) Hollywood’s and New
        York’s systematic removal of whites from movies, TV, and commercials,
        is producing all sorts of bizarre effects (not to say secret vices) among,
        particularly, white women:

        1. This was reported several years ago: childless white women, who number
        in the millions, are so starved for the images of white children and happy large white
        families that they sometimes become addicted to the blogs run by Mormon
        women, showing photos of their large broods who seem to be bursting with
        joy and radiant health;

        2. Americans have discovered that thanks to the miracle of the Internet they
        can now satisfy their craving for white faces by watching European films and
        TV shows on YouTube, Netflix, and other media. Women, specifically, can
        get their fill of white children singing and dancing by watching Voice Kids
        shows from Europe (the U.S. doesn’t have Voice Kids yet) which are available
        on YouTube. Several countries have them. Voice Kids Poland seems to be
        particularly popular in the U.S., perhaps due to the large Polish-American
        population;

        3. The craving for beautiful white faces is, of course, not limited to white
        women. The website Quora has many answers to questions of the type “What
        do beautiful Swedish women look like?” It turns out that the galleries of
        beautiful white women from different countries are often upvoted by black
        men who apparently cannot get enough of looking at very attractive white
        girls.

        Few things undermine the self-esteem of nonwhite women (and many men
        too) as much as the images of white beauty, so in our totalitarian future they
        will be even more systematically removed from the public sphere than they
        are now, and with the craziness overtaking this country they might become
        completely forbidden.

        Americans have discovered that thanks to the miracle of the Internet they can now satisfy their craving for white faces by watching European films and TV shows

        They should probably avoid British TV, which is eager to embrace “diversity”, whether it is appropriate or not. For example, the recent remake of Dracula included a Chinese woman and a mixed-race black – among the nuns in a convent in Budapest in 1900.

      77. @another anon

        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever
         
        If you think that few "trannies" are the movers and shakers of big policy changes, think again.

        See who is pushing for transgender agenda, and why.

        https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

        As it stands, politics is a battle of oligarchs that wield their ideologies in a great war of money. Their soldiers are professional activists invested in the permanent war between either end of the political spectrum. Their cheerleaders are media outlets that report on these wars, treat them like football games, and take the claims of these organizations to be unassailable fact, it is easy for the average person to disengage and become disaffected. Ultimately, their voice and vote does not matter. This creates a situation where ideologies such as transgenderism, an ideology that is fundamentally incoherent and experimenting on children can be accepted on the left. A situation where the punishment for not going along with the party line is a violently enforced exile.
         


        The influence these large foundations and their funders have on our politics cannot be underestimated, and it needs to be questioned. The transgender civil rights movement consists of (i) large numbers of astroturf organizations funded by billionaires with financial interest in its success, (ii) medical professionals who stand to gain from ‘selling’ transgenderism to the public (and who are happy to lie to the public about their treatments) and (iii) pharmaceutical companies that appear to be engaging in illegal off-label marketing with said medical professionals. The question of what came first-the foundations, the pharmaceutical companies, or the medical professionals -is like asking whether the chicken or the egg came first. But the fact of the matter is, all three groups stand to benefit from the transgender civil rights movement. No transgender person does.
         
        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.

        More important question is: what comes after transgenderism? What is the next big social justice cause that will make big $$$ for the right people?

        If you watch leftist spaces, you will know that polyamory is currently on the way to be mainstreamed.
        Great news if you are lawyer - imagine 12-sided marriage contracts and 12-sided divorce cases ;-)

        What will come after? My guess is transspeciesism. This will be cause that will have support from all parts of political spectrum.

        https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/nazi-furries-625x350.jpg

        Invest in fursuit manufacture and species reassignment surgery.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat

        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.

        Mark Steyn recently interviewed Douglas Murray, who pointed out the links between drug companies and those who advise people on “transitioning”. He predicts a lot of lawsuits in the USA. If billionaires have irresponsibly promoted transitioning, they can expect to be sued as well.

        https://www.steynonline.com/9895/the-accelerating-madness (33:20 to 34:20 in the video).

      78. anon[221] • Disclaimer says:
        @CCZ
        Maybe they will get to meet the right guy, girl, other at Harvard Medical School.

        U.S. medical schools boost LGBTQ students, doctor training
        By Lindsey Tanner
        The Associated Press

        This past fall, Harvard’s entering class of medical students was 15% LGBTQ, a milestone that is no accident .

        The American Association of Medical College’ primary application used by U.S. schools began offering prospective students the option of specifying gender identity and preferred pronouns in 2018. Harvard’s school-specific application allows applicants to identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender or queer. A response is not required, but the option “sends a message that you’re wanted,” said Jessica Halem, the medical school’s LGBTQ outreach director.

        “We know that doctors need to look like and be a part of the communities they serve,” Halem said.

        “We have gay Muslim students. Lesbians from China. Students who are survivors of conversion therapy,” she said. “They are now out and very proud gay people and they are healing those wounds.”

        This past fall, Harvard’s entering class of medical students was 15% LGBTQ, a milestone that is no accident .

        I bet the retention rate won’t be very good, and that Harvard will hide it. Because actual medical school is a high pressure environment, not a good place for the mentally unwell.

        • Replies: @Desiderius
        Not if the LGBTQs having anything to say about it, and they do and will.

        Your health be damned.
      79. @Altai
        This is basically a giant cry for help from girls with BPD but the LGBT lobby has brow-beat everyone into not saying anything about it. And modern feminism has declared that noticing BPD in women is sexist. It's fascinating to me how the transgender debate surrounds boys and men despite this cohort being the key one to emerge since 2014. The bulk of those who have undergone childhood and adolescent SRS will be from these people. It's not just Sweden, the same phenomena is happening across the Western world most severely in those places with native or high second language proficiency in English.

        A good example is Super Awesome Sylvia.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTdrVHc-ZZA

        She now claims to be a boy named 'Zephyrus' (https://twitter.com/makerzeph) and has a GoFundMe for a double mastectomy. (https://www.gofundme.com/f/zeph039s-top-surgery-fund) Like all the others she has a septum piercing which is basically diagnostic for BPD and about the least masculine thing in the world yet they all seem to get them just around the time they claim to be boys...

        Another is Lachlan Watson whose 'deadname' I couldn't find, it's been scrubbed from the internet. She plays a girl named Suzie with BPD (In terms of her behaviour) in 'The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina' (She had input into the role and seems to have been playing herself, telling...) who later 'realises' she is a boy and changes her name to Theo and tries to play basketball despite being short and weak. Sabrina uses her magical powers to make her supernaturally good at basketball at the try-outs. (Which is nice, at least they didn't have the character be better than the much taller athletic guys to prove everyone wrong.) Watson also sports a septum piercing, the most masculine of all things. Unlike 'Zephyrus' she has actually had her double-mastectomy. ('Top surgery') Though tellingly, she often still just wears dresses, makeup and nail polish.

        https://66.media.tumblr.com/9201c3efe17704e9d512a7dffafcc530/tumblr_ppzfl3Ygt31r4c2ki_540.jpg


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cgkEeVUbb0

        Here is another video of her in a 'discussion' with Liv Hewson (A woman who looks and act feminine but somehow insists everyone use 'they' pronouns with her), Jacob Tobia (A man for whom the term 'troon' was made) and an Indian guy who seems determined to be anything other than gay despite obviously just being gay. The comments below are hilarious, lots of teenage and young women saying how they don't understand any of it but feel for everyone.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8z0_tXIpg

        There's also a really messed up scene where she uses magic to turn herself into a boy (Her height and face don't change though, which just makes it so funny) but it goes wrong and she has to amputate her arm... It's like the writers wanted to be trans-affirming but they keep just showing her as insane with the disturbing apparition of a long-dead ancestor (With a southern twang as all sinister ancestral ghosts must have) that only she can see, telling her to become trans and in the process offer up one of the most subversive depictions possibly in the current year of a deeply emotionally and mentally unstable girl desperate to be accepted as a boy as a coping mechanism for her mental illness or perhaps a cry for help.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoCClMPHMkY

        This is basically a giant cry for help from girls with BPD but the LGBT lobby has brow-beat everyone into not saying anything about it.

        I’m not convinced that BPD is the cause. BPD is supposed to afflict 1.6% of the population – or 0.8% of men and 2.4% of women. If all girls with BPD wanted to become boys, this would be a large number; but still less than one girl on average in each class. Instead, a kind of contagion is reported, especially in girls’ schools. I would be inclined to suspect general teenage acting-up.

        And modern feminism has declared that noticing BPD in women is sexist.

        BPD is three times as common in women as men, and so its existence is an affront to feminist ideology.

      80. @Anon 2
        Somewhat OT:

        The United States is running out of white people (for example, American
        children are already majority nonwhite). This, along with (1) Low fertility
        rates (i.e., there are few children around), and (2) Hollywood’s and New
        York’s systematic removal of whites from movies, TV, and commercials,
        is producing all sorts of bizarre effects (not to say secret vices) among,
        particularly, white women:

        1. This was reported several years ago: childless white women, who number
        in the millions, are so starved for the images of white children and happy large white
        families that they sometimes become addicted to the blogs run by Mormon
        women, showing photos of their large broods who seem to be bursting with
        joy and radiant health;

        2. Americans have discovered that thanks to the miracle of the Internet they
        can now satisfy their craving for white faces by watching European films and
        TV shows on YouTube, Netflix, and other media. Women, specifically, can
        get their fill of white children singing and dancing by watching Voice Kids
        shows from Europe (the U.S. doesn’t have Voice Kids yet) which are available
        on YouTube. Several countries have them. Voice Kids Poland seems to be
        particularly popular in the U.S., perhaps due to the large Polish-American
        population;

        3. The craving for beautiful white faces is, of course, not limited to white
        women. The website Quora has many answers to questions of the type “What
        do beautiful Swedish women look like?” It turns out that the galleries of
        beautiful white women from different countries are often upvoted by black
        men who apparently cannot get enough of looking at very attractive white
        girls.

        Few things undermine the self-esteem of nonwhite women (and many men
        too) as much as the images of white beauty, so in our totalitarian future they
        will be even more systematically removed from the public sphere than they
        are now, and with the craziness overtaking this country they might become
        completely forbidden.

        Who watches TV?

      81. @another anon

        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever
         
        If you think that few "trannies" are the movers and shakers of big policy changes, think again.

        See who is pushing for transgender agenda, and why.

        https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

        As it stands, politics is a battle of oligarchs that wield their ideologies in a great war of money. Their soldiers are professional activists invested in the permanent war between either end of the political spectrum. Their cheerleaders are media outlets that report on these wars, treat them like football games, and take the claims of these organizations to be unassailable fact, it is easy for the average person to disengage and become disaffected. Ultimately, their voice and vote does not matter. This creates a situation where ideologies such as transgenderism, an ideology that is fundamentally incoherent and experimenting on children can be accepted on the left. A situation where the punishment for not going along with the party line is a violently enforced exile.
         


        The influence these large foundations and their funders have on our politics cannot be underestimated, and it needs to be questioned. The transgender civil rights movement consists of (i) large numbers of astroturf organizations funded by billionaires with financial interest in its success, (ii) medical professionals who stand to gain from ‘selling’ transgenderism to the public (and who are happy to lie to the public about their treatments) and (iii) pharmaceutical companies that appear to be engaging in illegal off-label marketing with said medical professionals. The question of what came first-the foundations, the pharmaceutical companies, or the medical professionals -is like asking whether the chicken or the egg came first. But the fact of the matter is, all three groups stand to benefit from the transgender civil rights movement. No transgender person does.
         
        TL;DR. Follow the $$$.
        It is the big pharma. Every transgendered person is guaranteed lifelong customer of expensive drugs, gold mine for our friends from big pharma. Capitalism at work.

        More important question is: what comes after transgenderism? What is the next big social justice cause that will make big $$$ for the right people?

        If you watch leftist spaces, you will know that polyamory is currently on the way to be mainstreamed.
        Great news if you are lawyer - imagine 12-sided marriage contracts and 12-sided divorce cases ;-)

        What will come after? My guess is transspeciesism. This will be cause that will have support from all parts of political spectrum.

        https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/nazi-furries-625x350.jpg

        Invest in fursuit manufacture and species reassignment surgery.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalking_Cat

        The foundations funded by Hyatt Hotels and associated businesses, Levi Strauss jeans and Crown Zellerbach ( paper forestry lumber) are major donors to trans genderist drag queen story hour etc.

        Follow the activists back to the money.

        • Agree: Desiderius
      82. @Anon
        In the New York Times today is an article about how some trouble-making activist Google employees tried to protest some of Google's projects like research on A.I. for drones for the military. They got fired.

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html

        The Times sent a photographer named Bobby Doherty to photograph six of the uppity ex-Googlers. Half of them are clearly trannies: Rebecca R., Kathryn S., and Irene K. Two I'd say with 70 percent certainty are women-born-women, and one I'd say with 90 percent certainty is a guy.

        I'm sure that half of Google's employees cannot be trans, but I wonder how many are. Maybe autogynes self select as aggressive activists, but still, fifty percent of the activists interviewed is really high. Maybe activist normals are more attuned to context and culture and manage to not aggravate their bosses as much?

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google/23mag-google-superJumbo.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-04/23mag-google-04-master675.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-06/23mag-google-06-master675.jpg

        can we get BARF added in the agree/disagree etc. button?

      83. @Bardon Kaldian
        Alright, they're idiots. But, one interesting old question pops up: why do so many, virtually all people, consider that "touring the world" is some great experience? Or something transforming?

        That could be so 100 or 200 ..years before, but now one can get his curiosity about the others satisfied without moving his @ss.

        My speculation is that, apart from particular psychological features, mentally & imaginatively developed people simply don't have a need to "see the world". They know enough about it, even without seeing it, or don't find it to be much interesting (Kant, Hegel, Cauchy, Spinoza, Proust, Dante, Bach, Beethoven, J.C. Maxwell, Heidegger, Newton, ...).

        The Thurnbergs weren’t touring the world. They were on an opera circuit about 1,700 miles north south and 1,000 miles east west.

        Families have to move to make a living. Look at USA military families moving all over the US and the world every 2 or 3 years.

        It wasn’t the mother’s job that made Greta so crazy.

      84. Besides wanting to be guys, do these Swedish gals also want to be MENA Muslim males?

        The Swedish bikini team meme [long before there were “memes”] is ancient history.

        Way back in time, when women were women, and men were men.

      85. “First, do no harm. ”

        That isn’t the way to build a practice and a wealth portfolio.

        First, do prescribe the most lucrative pharma product that has been found to have some efficacy for whatever is bothering the patient. Approved for treatment by the FDA, of course. All of this after the physician invested in BigPharma.

      86. The trans epidemic probably represents a step back for feminism. Go listen to Gen Z conversations and you’ll notice that while they are completely (creepily) pro-rainbow, they are probably more sexist than millennials, Gen X, and Boomers. They are also pornsick. While an increasing amount of teenagers don’t get out of the house enough to have sex, those that do are pressured into more and more extreme acts due to their early exposure to hardcore porn. Going trans might be a way for some of these shy, frightened girls to avoid the possibility of these acts. Plus it garners attention and acceptance if they are lonely.

        Sad….Sweden was once the home of plucky Pippi Longstockings and legends about shieldmaidens…I guess there is no more room for tomboys and strong women in globohomotopia.

      87. @Travis
        certainly Blues eyes will soon be quite rare for Americans. 100 years ago 50% of White Americans had Blue eyes. Today just 15% of white Americans have Blue eyes. By 2070 less than 10% of Americans will have Blue eyes

        You pulled the 15 percent figure out of your…

        The real figure of blue-eyed non-Hispanic whites ranges between 25-35 percent, depending on the region (Midwest has the highest percentage of whites w/ blue eyes, Northeast the least, West & South in between).

        As for why it’s declining even among whites, maybe brown eyes are more adaptive to the low latitudes of most of the continental U.S? Blue-eyed people are more prone to certain health conditions like melanoma, glaucoma, and heat-related illnesses. Also, surely blue-eyed populations were more irreligious or Protestant around mid-century and thus had fewer children most of second half of the 20th century. Though that effect has likely leveled out or even reversed after the cohort born in the 90s or so.

        May see a slight uptick in blue-eyed percentages among whites a few decades from now, if current religious fertility trends w/ Hasidim, Mennonites, Amish, hardcore Evangelicals, etc continue.

      88. @Bardon Kaldian
        Alright, they're idiots. But, one interesting old question pops up: why do so many, virtually all people, consider that "touring the world" is some great experience? Or something transforming?

        That could be so 100 or 200 ..years before, but now one can get his curiosity about the others satisfied without moving his @ss.

        My speculation is that, apart from particular psychological features, mentally & imaginatively developed people simply don't have a need to "see the world". They know enough about it, even without seeing it, or don't find it to be much interesting (Kant, Hegel, Cauchy, Spinoza, Proust, Dante, Bach, Beethoven, J.C. Maxwell, Heidegger, Newton, ...).

        Why do people with means want to tour the world?

        I don’t know, maybe because it’s human to be curious and social. Someone with money who DOESN’T get out a little bit is likely a neurotic.

        There is a difference between spending all of your time abroad (nutty) and dabbling a few times a year (normal). Most people dabble.

        Actually, uber-rich people 120 years ago probably spent more time traveling than uber-rich people now, on average. Took a lot longer to get from point A to B, plus there were fewer private entertainment options to stave off boredom.

        • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
        Actually, that would require an essay. Just, being lazy, only a few rambling thoughts ...

        There are people who have a strong adventurer's streak in them & and excess of extroversion. I would put in that category, however they may differ, Richard Francis Burton and Jack London.

        Then, there are people who are mentally & imaginatively so developed that they simply don't have the time to waste on travels. They're not anti-social; they're not indifferent to other people, cultures,... Just - they have more than enough wealth of inner life; they are not in need of outer stimuli of landscapes unseen or people they could meet traveling. I think Hegel and Proust belonged to that category.

        Also, there are people who somehow escape all characterizations re this issue. For me, the prime example is Henry Adams.

        But, I'd say that many people travel not to enrich their experience of life & satisfy natural curiosity. Many, way too many people move around aimlessly, yearning for an unexpected, exciting experience that will enliven their humdrum existences & transform their old, weary selves.

        And it doesn't happen. Wherever you go, you meet only projections of yourself.
      89. Dear Sweden & Contemporary America,

        Theodore J. Van Kirk’s estate asks you to kindly $%#!% off. And you’re welcome. That is all.

        [MORE]

      90. @Anon
        In the New York Times today is an article about how some trouble-making activist Google employees tried to protest some of Google's projects like research on A.I. for drones for the military. They got fired.

        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html

        The Times sent a photographer named Bobby Doherty to photograph six of the uppity ex-Googlers. Half of them are clearly trannies: Rebecca R., Kathryn S., and Irene K. Two I'd say with 70 percent certainty are women-born-women, and one I'd say with 90 percent certainty is a guy.

        I'm sure that half of Google's employees cannot be trans, but I wonder how many are. Maybe autogynes self select as aggressive activists, but still, fifty percent of the activists interviewed is really high. Maybe activist normals are more attuned to context and culture and manage to not aggravate their bosses as much?

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google/23mag-google-superJumbo.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-04/23mag-google-04-master675.jpg

        https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/23/magazine/23mag-google-06/23mag-google-06-master675.jpg

        The one in the middle shows how much can be done with face-glop and tweezers (to shape the eyebrows).

        Makes me wonder what Keira Knightley would look like without war-paint (inb4 “The promo reel for ‘Official Secrets’“: that’s the war-paint version of no war-paint).

        The other two… by turning into unconvincing fat ugly pretend-women, they might be able to find someone with low enough standards.

        There’s plenty of evidence that ugliness is no barrier to fat chicks getting laid. Every time I go anyplace with more than 50 people I see grotesque obese land-whales with offspring – tendency evidence that they found a man with negligible standards and/or eyesight. Otherwise it’s evidence that there’s a clandestine industry that involves harvesting the contents of used condoms recovered from dogging sites. Maybe both.

      91. @Pericles


        But I guess the question is whether it was malice or incompetence. If the former, maybe it wasn’t stupid after all.

         
        Pro-tip: it's always malice.

        Yep – just like Acton’s misdirection about power, and Lincoln’s misdirection about how many people you have to fool how often, Hanlon’s Razor is a very adept misdirection about the prevalence of malice in the conspiratorial (parasitoid) classes.

        People who appeal to Hanlon’s Razor are always soi-disant sophisticates.

        I prefer a paraphrase of the Fleming aphorism.

        My version: “Once is bad luck. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action“.

      92. @BenKenobi
        Harold Covington was right.

        About everything.

        Harold Covington was right.

        About everything.

        He revered an Austrian faggot, and got deported from Rhodesia. You have a strange standard of “right”.

        • Disagree: BenKenobi
        • Replies: @donut
        Maybe so but Jesus got crucified and lots of people think well of him .
      93. @S. Anonyia
        Why do people with means want to tour the world?

        I don't know, maybe because it's human to be curious and social. Someone with money who DOESN'T get out a little bit is likely a neurotic.

        There is a difference between spending all of your time abroad (nutty) and dabbling a few times a year (normal). Most people dabble.

        Actually, uber-rich people 120 years ago probably spent more time traveling than uber-rich people now, on average. Took a lot longer to get from point A to B, plus there were fewer private entertainment options to stave off boredom.

        Actually, that would require an essay. Just, being lazy, only a few rambling thoughts …

        There are people who have a strong adventurer’s streak in them & and excess of extroversion. I would put in that category, however they may differ, Richard Francis Burton and Jack London.

        Then, there are people who are mentally & imaginatively so developed that they simply don’t have the time to waste on travels. They’re not anti-social; they’re not indifferent to other people, cultures,… Just – they have more than enough wealth of inner life; they are not in need of outer stimuli of landscapes unseen or people they could meet traveling. I think Hegel and Proust belonged to that category.

        Also, there are people who somehow escape all characterizations re this issue. For me, the prime example is Henry Adams.

        But, I’d say that many people travel not to enrich their experience of life & satisfy natural curiosity. Many, way too many people move around aimlessly, yearning for an unexpected, exciting experience that will enliven their humdrum existences & transform their old, weary selves.

        And it doesn’t happen. Wherever you go, you meet only projections of yourself.

      94. One of the basic principles of the Hippocratic Oath

        Oath?

        The woke are present day Jehovah’s Witnesses for the stillborn new religion.

        Plus, Hippocrates? Hello, hippocritical old white dude, amirite?

      95. @anon
        This past fall, Harvard’s entering class of medical students was 15% LGBTQ, a milestone that is no accident .

        I bet the retention rate won't be very good, and that Harvard will hide it. Because actual medical school is a high pressure environment, not a good place for the mentally unwell.

        Not if the LGBTQs having anything to say about it, and they do and will.

        Your health be damned.

        • Replies: @Wency
        I'm reminded of an old joke:

        Q: What do you call someone who graduates dead last in his med school class?
        A: Doctor.
      96. The tribe loves them some LGBTQPRs. And baby butchers as well!!!

      97. @Andy
        But why in ultra feminist Sweden would a girl want to identify as a boy?

        Feminism makes women miserable.

      98. @Andrew M
        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well. It also means they take rules literally, so when Google says “don’t be evil”, they really believe it; unlike the rest of us who understand that it’s just corporate branding bs. Finally, as Steve has mentioned once or twice before, quite a few MtF trannies seem to have Aspergers.

        I asset that I do have Asperger’s and nuance irritates me more often than not. I’ve often longed to be born in the days when I could be a proper fundamentalist and be done with it.

      99. I’d like to think this stuff is just a fad and the product of hysteria but since it coincides with increases in other mental/developmental disorders like autism, Asperger’s syndrome, ADD, ADHD, and dyslexia, it may well be organic and caused by an environmental toxin or toxins.

        • Replies: @dfordoom

        I’d like to think this stuff is just a fad and the product of hysteria but since it coincides with increases in other mental/developmental disorders like autism, Asperger’s syndrome, ADD, ADHD, and dyslexia
         
        It coincides with increases in the number of diagnoses of other mental/developmental disorders. Some of which almost certainly do not exist.
      100. @Anon 2
        Somewhat OT:

        The United States is running out of white people (for example, American
        children are already majority nonwhite). This, along with (1) Low fertility
        rates (i.e., there are few children around), and (2) Hollywood’s and New
        York’s systematic removal of whites from movies, TV, and commercials,
        is producing all sorts of bizarre effects (not to say secret vices) among,
        particularly, white women:

        1. This was reported several years ago: childless white women, who number
        in the millions, are so starved for the images of white children and happy large white
        families that they sometimes become addicted to the blogs run by Mormon
        women, showing photos of their large broods who seem to be bursting with
        joy and radiant health;

        2. Americans have discovered that thanks to the miracle of the Internet they
        can now satisfy their craving for white faces by watching European films and
        TV shows on YouTube, Netflix, and other media. Women, specifically, can
        get their fill of white children singing and dancing by watching Voice Kids
        shows from Europe (the U.S. doesn’t have Voice Kids yet) which are available
        on YouTube. Several countries have them. Voice Kids Poland seems to be
        particularly popular in the U.S., perhaps due to the large Polish-American
        population;

        3. The craving for beautiful white faces is, of course, not limited to white
        women. The website Quora has many answers to questions of the type “What
        do beautiful Swedish women look like?” It turns out that the galleries of
        beautiful white women from different countries are often upvoted by black
        men who apparently cannot get enough of looking at very attractive white
        girls.

        Few things undermine the self-esteem of nonwhite women (and many men
        too) as much as the images of white beauty, so in our totalitarian future they
        will be even more systematically removed from the public sphere than they
        are now, and with the craziness overtaking this country they might become
        completely forbidden.

        (Random child that appears to be “bursting with joy and radiant health”. From my collection of photos found on the web of the magical creatures known as boys. )

      101. national enslavement, turk style might be the only option

        luckily, they did it to themselves. No need to waste money then, even better!

      102. @Andrew M
        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance. This makes them excellent at computing, which doesn’t tolerate nuance well. It also means they take rules literally, so when Google says “don’t be evil”, they really believe it; unlike the rest of us who understand that it’s just corporate branding bs. Finally, as Steve has mentioned once or twice before, quite a few MtF trannies seem to have Aspergers.

        The connection is Asperger’s. They have a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance.

        I don’t recall anything about that from what I’ve read about Asperger’s Syndrome, though it’s been quite a while now. I definitely do recall, though, finding a great deal that seemed to describe myself. I strongly suspect that many would find my posting history here at Unz, or even any number of my comments taken individually, as reflective of the thinking of an individual who is on the Autism spectrum.

        Do I have “a binary good vs. evil view of the world, with little capacity for nuance”?

        [MORE]
        While I can see how some of my comments could suggest such a mindset, there are at least as many that I would contend (and I strongly suspect others would concur) demonstrate very much the opposite. (For any number of such comments, I suspect that, if anything, I would/have been faulted for delving too far into nuance.)

        Where do I fit in with regard to “gender identity”*? While I have never been an exemplar of masculinity, I have also never labored under any illusions that I am, objectively, anything other than fully male. Nor have I ever desired to pretend otherwise. The one possible/partial exception to this was a (thankfully) brief phase I went through as a young child, around the time I first became consciously aware of the most basic difference between the sexes, of expressing a desire to be a girl. As I have expressed here before, I shudder to think what might possibly have happened had this early childhood foolishness been indulged as it might very well have been had I been born several decades later than I was.

        *Gender, let it not be forgotten, is but a linguistic construct.

      103. “The very difficult trials (and trauma) of haircuts for people who are neither a man nor a woman.”

        Hard times create strong men.
        Strong men create good times.
        Good times create weak men.
        Weak men create hard times.

      104. Full Hippocratic Oath (modern) —

        I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant: I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

        Nothing about “do no harm” added till about 1700. Even then it only incorporated a Latin phrase that (can) mean “At least not screw up too much.”

        There might be good reasons for that. For most centuries between the Greeks and us, seeing a physician was the LAST thing you did if you were sick. The pre-17th Century “butchers bazaar” surgical methods are probably what inspired the addition of some version of “first do no…” but it was not in any version before that time.

      105. @CromwellForever
        Based on my anecdotal experience with American FtMs, I'd say some are, but a lot are pretty attractive tomboys (often Jewesses with huge milkers) who fetishize gay male relationships/want to be in a twink role. I suspect it's teen girl fad following more than anything, but I wonder if yaoi manga (Japanese comics aimed at girls about homosexual male romance) has contributed to the massive rise of FtMs.

        I wonder if yaoi manga (Japanese comics aimed at girls about homosexual male romance) has contributed to the massive rise of FtMs.

        That seems quite plausible. And “vanilla” yaoi, in which the males are at least unambiguously male, is far from the worst here. The genre of Japanese cartoon-style erotic/pornographic art broadly known as hentai has many sub-genres that cover nearly every variety of freakishness and degeneracy imaginable. These include futanari, which is one of many terms in this milieu for which it can be said that if one needs to ask, one likely would rather not know.

        Countless adolescents and even pre-adolescents have been exposed to such deviancy thanks to websites in the imageboard format known as *chans. (4Chan has been the most well-known and popular but has never necessarily been the most depraved, frightening as that may seem.) Can there be any question but that exposure to such imagery can potentially influence how the still-fluid sexuality of those in their formative years ultimately settles? Indeed, I have seen comments from individuals claiming exactly such influence.

      106. @Reg Cæsar

        Harold Covington was right.

        About everything.
         
        He revered an Austrian faggot, and got deported from Rhodesia. You have a strange standard of "right".

        Maybe so but Jesus got crucified and lots of people think well of him .

      107. @El Dato

        Sabrina uses her magical powers to make her supernaturally good at basketball at the try-outs. (Which is nice, at least they didn’t have the character be better than the much taller athletic guys to prove everyone wrong.) Watson also sports a septum piercing, the most masculine of all things. Unlike ‘Zephyrus’ she has actually had her double-mastectomy. (‘Top surgery’) Though tellingly, she often still just wears dresses, makeup and nail polish.
         
        This should have all remained in the domain of anime & manga.

        Turning himself into a good basketball player, or turning herself into a boy.

        Now they’re just ripping off The Fairly Odd Parents.

      108. @Rosie

        I’m going to guess most of these poor girls are considered unattractive and are going through an especially painful adolescence. A better society would give them support and not use them as cannon fodder in somebody’s war against the patriarchy.
         
        The simple fact of the matter is that not every girl is willing or able to conform to stereotypical gender norms. This doesn't have to be the end of the world, but now that the suggestion of transgenderism is put in their heads, it seems like an easy answer.

        The simple fact of the matter is that not every girl is willing or able to conform to stereotypical gender norms. This doesn’t have to be the end of the world, but now that the suggestion of transgenderism is put in their heads, it seems like an easy answer.

        Yes, and the same could be said for boys.

        I believe that what you have written may nearly perfectly encapsulate the basic view of those behind the site 4thWaveNow, which bills itself as, A community of parents & others questioning the medicalization of gender-atypical youth. This site, which I learned of from a comment in an iSteve thread from several years back, would appear quite valuable. Particularly notable is that “the founder and primary author of 4thWaveNow” describes herself as not only “left-leaning” but also “a strong supporter of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people.”

        • Replies: @Rosie

        This site, which I learned of from a comment in an iSteve thread from several years back, would appear quite valuable.
         
        Yes, indeed. And as I have pointed out before, gender nonconformity correlates with IQ. Gifted girls are more masculine in temperament; gifted boys more feminine. This can cause a great deal of angst and confusion among young people who are trying to figure out who they are and where they fit.

        Of course, if gifted boys and girls were grouped together for education, they would know that androgyny is just kind of normal in their set, and it wouldn't be such a big deal.

        Note also that when I say "androgyny" I mean something less thoroughgoing than you might imagine. Mr. Rosie and I come across as every bit the modern, egalitarian, companionate couple, but we still pretty much perform our traditional duties. He goes to work and I stay home, and we're both happy with that.

        Gifted children are disproportionately likely to grow up gay, but that isn't universally so.
        Many gender-nonconforming youth can absolutely grow up to have happy, traditional families, as long as they're not interfered with and misguided on their way.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21331499
      109. @SOL
        Curious if any of the increase is driven by the misguided hope that becoming trans will save them from being raped by a Swedish vibrant.

        Swedish vibrants can’t be buggers?

      110. @Dutch Boy
        I'd like to think this stuff is just a fad and the product of hysteria but since it coincides with increases in other mental/developmental disorders like autism, Asperger's syndrome, ADD, ADHD, and dyslexia, it may well be organic and caused by an environmental toxin or toxins.

        I’d like to think this stuff is just a fad and the product of hysteria but since it coincides with increases in other mental/developmental disorders like autism, Asperger’s syndrome, ADD, ADHD, and dyslexia

        It coincides with increases in the number of diagnoses of other mental/developmental disorders. Some of which almost certainly do not exist.

        • Replies: @Dutch Boy
        Such as?
      111. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
        @BenKenobi
        Harold Covington was right.

        About everything.

        He was certainly a great novelist, far underrated.

        But he had some odd ideas. I think he had the right intentions but was a little off on the details.

        His end of year all music podcast was always interesting stuff and introduced me to music I was not familiar with.

      112. @dfordoom

        I’d like to think this stuff is just a fad and the product of hysteria but since it coincides with increases in other mental/developmental disorders like autism, Asperger’s syndrome, ADD, ADHD, and dyslexia
         
        It coincides with increases in the number of diagnoses of other mental/developmental disorders. Some of which almost certainly do not exist.

        Such as?

        • Replies: @dfordoom

        Such as?
         
        Well ADD and ADHD are imaginary for starters.

        What we've seen over the past half century has been the pathologising of normal human behaviour. Perfectly normal variations in human behaviour have been turned into psychiatric disorders, because there's a lot of money to be made from doing that.
      113. @Desiderius
        Not if the LGBTQs having anything to say about it, and they do and will.

        Your health be damned.

        I’m reminded of an old joke:

        Q: What do you call someone who graduates dead last in his med school class?
        A: Doctor.

      114. I think it’s mostly a fad, 10-15 years ago, half of young women identified as bisexual

        • Replies: @Dissident

        I think it’s mostly a fad, 10-15 years ago, half of young women identified as bisexual
         
        Below find two highly notable past iSteve comments that are relevant here. Emphasis via bold-text is mine.
        1.) https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-obamas-world-war-t-losing-even-the-nyt/#comment-1422541

        TheJester says:
        May 17, 2016 at 1:11 pm GMT • 200 Words
        @Daniel Williams

        We had an eye opener when our daughter attended the local high school in Northern Virginia circa 2009 to 2011. She had frequent stories about girls in school deciding that they didn’t have boyfriends because they were lesbians. These stories circulated for about two to three weeks. In that time frame, boyfriends mysteriously materialized and the girls decided they were normal. We personally knew a couple of these girls as we carpooled them around the social scene.

        It was clear to us that these girls were “gender fluid” for a few weeks to retain their self-respect when faced with the social crisis of not having a boyfriend. Being “lesbian” was a convenient rationalization to avoid the devastating stain of rejection. “I don’t have a boyfriend because I don’t want one because I’m a (fill in the blank) ….” Two weeks later, they and their new-found boyfriends were walking the halls as if nothing had happened.

        The danger in all of this is that the SJWs, by precasting scripted rationalizations for girls, women, and minorities of both sexes regarding life and sexuality, are retarding their ability to grow up and deal with reality. The precast rationalizations are perhaps factors in large numbers of Millennials and disturbing numbers of minorities behaving as if they were permanent adolescents.
         
        2.) From this past December by iSteve regular Almost Missouri:
        https://www.unz.com/isteve/j-k-rowling-vs-the-junior-anti-sex-league/#comment-3620781
        Excerpt:

        There is apparently sufficient pent up desire for chastity such that some of it is starting to manifest as a new social movement of “asexuality”, which, like lesbianism, appears to be an amalgam of a few genuine true believers who provide an umbrella of social acceptability for chaste-aspirationals against the torrential downpour of progressivism’s intolerance of any dissent.
         
      115. @ariel
        I think it's mostly a fad, 10-15 years ago, half of young women identified as bisexual

        I think it’s mostly a fad, 10-15 years ago, half of young women identified as bisexual

        Below find two highly notable past iSteve comments that are relevant here. Emphasis via bold-text is mine.
        1.) https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-obamas-world-war-t-losing-even-the-nyt/#comment-1422541

        TheJester says:
        May 17, 2016 at 1:11 pm GMT • 200 Words
        @Daniel Williams

        We had an eye opener when our daughter attended the local high school in Northern Virginia circa 2009 to 2011. She had frequent stories about girls in school deciding that they didn’t have boyfriends because they were lesbians. These stories circulated for about two to three weeks. In that time frame, boyfriends mysteriously materialized and the girls decided they were normal. We personally knew a couple of these girls as we carpooled them around the social scene.

        It was clear to us that these girls were “gender fluid” for a few weeks to retain their self-respect when faced with the social crisis of not having a boyfriend. Being “lesbian” was a convenient rationalization to avoid the devastating stain of rejection. “I don’t have a boyfriend because I don’t want one because I’m a (fill in the blank) ….” Two weeks later, they and their new-found boyfriends were walking the halls as if nothing had happened.

        The danger in all of this is that the SJWs, by precasting scripted rationalizations for girls, women, and minorities of both sexes regarding life and sexuality, are retarding their ability to grow up and deal with reality. The precast rationalizations are perhaps factors in large numbers of Millennials and disturbing numbers of minorities behaving as if they were permanent adolescents.

        2.) From this past December by iSteve regular Almost Missouri:
        https://www.unz.com/isteve/j-k-rowling-vs-the-junior-anti-sex-league/#comment-3620781
        Excerpt:

        There is apparently sufficient pent up desire for chastity such that some of it is starting to manifest as a new social movement of “asexuality”, which, like lesbianism, appears to be an amalgam of a few genuine true believers who provide an umbrella of social acceptability for chaste-aspirationals against the torrential downpour of progressivism’s intolerance of any dissent.

        • Replies: @dfordoom
        Two excellent comments you've quoted there. Especially the latter one. It does seem likely that there's a significant number of young people, especially girls, who just don't want to be forced into living the male homosexual lifestyle of extreme promiscuity and indulgence in every disgusting aberrant sexual act imaginable (which porn and pop culture have told them they should be indulging in). So they're looking for any kind of escape from the remorseless sexual treadmill.

        Amazingly some girls don't want to be nothing but sperm receptacles.
      116. @Dissident

        The simple fact of the matter is that not every girl is willing or able to conform to stereotypical gender norms. This doesn’t have to be the end of the world, but now that the suggestion of transgenderism is put in their heads, it seems like an easy answer.
         
        Yes, and the same could be said for boys.

        I believe that what you have written may nearly perfectly encapsulate the basic view of those behind the site 4thWaveNow, which bills itself as, A community of parents & others questioning the medicalization of gender-atypical youth. This site, which I learned of from a comment in an iSteve thread from several years back, would appear quite valuable. Particularly notable is that "the founder and primary author of 4thWaveNow" describes herself as not only "left-leaning" but also "a strong supporter of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people."

        This site, which I learned of from a comment in an iSteve thread from several years back, would appear quite valuable.

        Yes, indeed. And as I have pointed out before, gender nonconformity correlates with IQ. Gifted girls are more masculine in temperament; gifted boys more feminine. This can cause a great deal of angst and confusion among young people who are trying to figure out who they are and where they fit.

        Of course, if gifted boys and girls were grouped together for education, they would know that androgyny is just kind of normal in their set, and it wouldn’t be such a big deal.

        Note also that when I say “androgyny” I mean something less thoroughgoing than you might imagine. Mr. Rosie and I come across as every bit the modern, egalitarian, companionate couple, but we still pretty much perform our traditional duties. He goes to work and I stay home, and we’re both happy with that.

        Gifted children are disproportionately likely to grow up gay, but that isn’t universally so.
        Many gender-nonconforming youth can absolutely grow up to have happy, traditional families, as long as they’re not interfered with and misguided on their way.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21331499

      117. @Dutch Boy
        Such as?

        Such as?

        Well ADD and ADHD are imaginary for starters.

        What we’ve seen over the past half century has been the pathologising of normal human behaviour. Perfectly normal variations in human behaviour have been turned into psychiatric disorders, because there’s a lot of money to be made from doing that.

        • Replies: @Dutch Boy
        ADD and ADHD are diagnosed with extensive behavioral inventories intended to weed out the those within the norm of human behavior. There is some indication that SPECT scans of the brain may be useful in diagnosing ADD and its subtypes (low activity in the prefrontal cortex is typical of ADHD). I could be persuaded that it is all imaginary if there were not so many co-morbitities associated with the condition (mood, motor and gastro-intestinal disorders). In some cases, trans-sexuality is so powerful a delusion that it leads its victims into demanding extensive physical mutilation. This suggests that there is something more profound than a fad operating.
      118. @Dissident

        I think it’s mostly a fad, 10-15 years ago, half of young women identified as bisexual
         
        Below find two highly notable past iSteve comments that are relevant here. Emphasis via bold-text is mine.
        1.) https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-obamas-world-war-t-losing-even-the-nyt/#comment-1422541

        TheJester says:
        May 17, 2016 at 1:11 pm GMT • 200 Words
        @Daniel Williams

        We had an eye opener when our daughter attended the local high school in Northern Virginia circa 2009 to 2011. She had frequent stories about girls in school deciding that they didn’t have boyfriends because they were lesbians. These stories circulated for about two to three weeks. In that time frame, boyfriends mysteriously materialized and the girls decided they were normal. We personally knew a couple of these girls as we carpooled them around the social scene.

        It was clear to us that these girls were “gender fluid” for a few weeks to retain their self-respect when faced with the social crisis of not having a boyfriend. Being “lesbian” was a convenient rationalization to avoid the devastating stain of rejection. “I don’t have a boyfriend because I don’t want one because I’m a (fill in the blank) ….” Two weeks later, they and their new-found boyfriends were walking the halls as if nothing had happened.

        The danger in all of this is that the SJWs, by precasting scripted rationalizations for girls, women, and minorities of both sexes regarding life and sexuality, are retarding their ability to grow up and deal with reality. The precast rationalizations are perhaps factors in large numbers of Millennials and disturbing numbers of minorities behaving as if they were permanent adolescents.
         
        2.) From this past December by iSteve regular Almost Missouri:
        https://www.unz.com/isteve/j-k-rowling-vs-the-junior-anti-sex-league/#comment-3620781
        Excerpt:

        There is apparently sufficient pent up desire for chastity such that some of it is starting to manifest as a new social movement of “asexuality”, which, like lesbianism, appears to be an amalgam of a few genuine true believers who provide an umbrella of social acceptability for chaste-aspirationals against the torrential downpour of progressivism’s intolerance of any dissent.
         

        Two excellent comments you’ve quoted there. Especially the latter one. It does seem likely that there’s a significant number of young people, especially girls, who just don’t want to be forced into living the male homosexual lifestyle of extreme promiscuity and indulgence in every disgusting aberrant sexual act imaginable (which porn and pop culture have told them they should be indulging in). So they’re looking for any kind of escape from the remorseless sexual treadmill.

        Amazingly some girls don’t want to be nothing but sperm receptacles.

      119. @dfordoom

        Such as?
         
        Well ADD and ADHD are imaginary for starters.

        What we've seen over the past half century has been the pathologising of normal human behaviour. Perfectly normal variations in human behaviour have been turned into psychiatric disorders, because there's a lot of money to be made from doing that.

        ADD and ADHD are diagnosed with extensive behavioral inventories intended to weed out the those within the norm of human behavior. There is some indication that SPECT scans of the brain may be useful in diagnosing ADD and its subtypes (low activity in the prefrontal cortex is typical of ADHD). I could be persuaded that it is all imaginary if there were not so many co-morbitities associated with the condition (mood, motor and gastro-intestinal disorders). In some cases, trans-sexuality is so powerful a delusion that it leads its victims into demanding extensive physical mutilation. This suggests that there is something more profound than a fad operating.

      120. Anonymous[401] • Disclaimer says:
        @Bill P
        Giving trannies any influence whatsoever over policy regarding children and sex ed was an even dumber idea than it was to give lesbian feminists influence over family law, and that was extremely stupid and harmful.

        But I guess the question is whether it was malice or incompetence. If the former, maybe it wasn't stupid after all.

        >”Giving trannies any influence…was an even dumber idea than it was to give lesbian feminists influence over family law…”

        And which dumbos gave all that away? Why straight, white, conservative Western males!

        Guys no longer fight for anything. All they do, in fact, is whine impotently online about all the nonsense their passivity/cowardice lets happen in reality. They act like Martians make misandric laws, not active/organized women and passive/willfully-disorganized men.

        LGBT/feminists fight. Heterosexuals do not.

        Guess who’s winning?

        QUICK: some 50+ years after feminism began attacking masculinity, name 1 (ONE!) group that is fighting effectively for men’s rights!

        Thought so.

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