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      From the BBC:

      Pisa rankings: Why Estonian pupils shine in global tests
      Branwen Jeffreys
      Education Editor
      2 December 2019

      Why are Estonian schools so segregated? Estonian children should be bussed to the South Bronx.

       
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      1. Little countries like Estonia will probably be the final redoubts of the white race, before they too are snuffed out. Or is anyone counting on Russia? I know I am.

        • Replies: @El Dato
        I don't know what's going on, but there is "think tank" talk about taking Kaliningrad in 24h flat (as Russian commenters counter with "we have nukes, you know") and there is something called a "Baltics & Poland defense plan" that has now been officialized during the latest NATO shindig.

        Whenever you are the object of a "defense plan", it's not a good sign.

        Maybe Estonia will soon be rubble.
        , @Dacian Julien Soros
        Russia is the third largest recipients of immigration in the world, and the Stans are not sending their best.
        , @Jack D
        A mistake that WN's often make is to assume that Russians are "fellow white people". (For some reason they don't make that mistake with Jews). Russians are white on the outside but are Asiatic or Eastern on the inside (what's the opposite of a banana?). They are the product of a different history and different civilization. They are the heirs of Byzantium and not Rome. Byzantium and its child Russia and Rome and its child, the West are descended from a common father but they are like two brothers who are very different from each other. The West is Beau Biden the war hero and Russia is Hunter Biden who gets drunk a lot and knocks up strippers. So if you are betting on Russia to save Roman (Western) civilization you are betting on the wrong horse.
      2. Off topic, but Steve related.
        https://thediplomat.com/2019/12/where-does-the-asian-obsession-with-white-skin-come-from/
        “In Thai classical literature, heroines who are described as having a fair complexion, as if painted with gold, are considered as beautiful,” he said. “So, it’s the different shade of white that was a standard in the past. After the Western and Korean influences, the preferred shade is pinkish white.”

        Let’s talk about my skin, says female reporter.

        • Replies: @Svevlad
        Really, the reason is because pale skin is considered more feminine. Pale women will get dicked more but the male children will get paler skin too, resulting in a feedback loop

        They'll go paler and paler until they get to skin cancer in moonlight tier, and that's basically the natural limit, which depends on area to area.

        Some things can distort it, like numbers and time spent in an area (which is why many amerindians are darker than expected)

        Asians got the better form though, at least they tan quickly and burns less, while europeans burn first (but can tan good)
      3. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-7755623/New-York-drops-10-visited-cities-world-ranking-Hong-Kong-top.html

        NYC falls off the list of ten most visited cities…..my ex lives in Hoboken jersey and she told me you can spend $100 a day there easily quite literally doing nothing but walking around and eating….too expensive??

        • Replies: @Steve Sailer
        When visiting NYC you can expect to hand a $20 bill to somebody ever few minutes.

        Jack Nicklaus scheduled a two week honeymoon in NYC in c. 1961 for him and Barb, but after a few days he noticed that he was spending $96 per day so he called off the honeymoon and there aren't any golf courses in Manhattan, but swung by Pine Valley in NJ on the way back to Columbus. That's an all-male club, so Barb wasn't allowed to ride in the cart but there are a few public roads from which you can see the golf course, so Barb had that going for her.
        , @Jack D
        This list is very deceptive:

        "Hong Kong remains at the top of the most-visited list with 26.7million visitors followed by Bangkok with 25.8million and Macau with 20.6million."

        In the case of HK and Macau, probably 90% of the visitors are Chinese and many of those are day trippers coming across from southern China in order to buy safe baby formula and gamble. There are a billion+ Chinese and they can now afford travel and are eager to see the world after decades of poverty and isolation. If you eliminate the Chinese from the list (and it's never good to structure your tourist industry around the Chinese - you never know when your leader might say something that "insults the Chinese people" (i.e. displeases the CPC) and they will all stop coming overnight) then it would look very different. Generally speaking a place with a lot of Chinese tourists is a place to avoid - busloads of Chinese tourists really don't add to the ambiance of wherever you are visiting.
      4. So what is the Estonian’s real secret? Not compared to Congolese or Mexicans, but compared to Swedes, Finns, etc? I would say that aside from their racial head start, being locked behind the iron curtain made them allergic to socialism and 40 years behind the decadence curve where all the intelligent young women pursue careers and have cats instead of children. Also Estonia is still low income enough that it’s not appealing to Muslim immigrants.

        • Replies: @Desiderius
        Singing

        https://youtu.be/Re1Lj3dH0fc
        , @Anonymous
        They are not allowed to enter and settle there irrespective of its relative appeal.

        Dont bring that shit here if you know whats good for you is the implied message...
        , @Jaakko Raipala
        Estonia is in the middle of a demographic collapse now but in the Soviet era they had nearly replacement fertility and a much lower age of starting families. In the Soviet era housing was assigned by the bureaucrats and it was much easier for young people to start families when they didn't have to worry about getting a house first.

        This would be a good issue for the right but you'd have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred (even though urban construction is totally intertwined with government and only the right to live in the finished product is on the market) and then the even harder taboo problem that we'd want to make it easier for *some* young families to start families.
        , @obwandiyag
        Read Jaakko. He understands. You don't understand anything.
        , @Realist

        So what is the Estonian’s real secret?
         
        Their average IQ is not diluted by POCs.
      5. @Jack D
        So what is the Estonian's real secret? Not compared to Congolese or Mexicans, but compared to Swedes, Finns, etc? I would say that aside from their racial head start, being locked behind the iron curtain made them allergic to socialism and 40 years behind the decadence curve where all the intelligent young women pursue careers and have cats instead of children. Also Estonia is still low income enough that it's not appealing to Muslim immigrants.

        Singing

        • Replies: @Dacian Julien Soros
        Don't you miss the days when the AMG nee BBG could put together a propaganda piece that you'd almost believe? All those millions of Balts, building a human chain spreading for hundreds of kilometers beyond the reach of any camera? All the excitement around the return of the Estonian government-in-exile, led by the very Estonian-named Heinrich Mark?

        If Soviets / Russians eve wanted to take Estonia back, there would be less resistance than in Donbass and Crimea. (If that's possible.) The number of people who did fighting Stalin during his two re-occupations of Imperial Estlandskaya Oblast is precisely zero. But yeah, there might have been lots of singing, if Voice of America had already existed.
      6. BTW Jack, might want to put in a call to the home office and let them know that a mono-Jewish impeachment of a duly elected goy President is VERY bad for the Jews.

        • LOL: Rosie
        • Replies: @SFG
        You know random right-wing Jews have no influence whatsoever on Adam Schiff, Jerrod Nadler, and Co., right? :(
        , @Clyde

        BTW Jack, might want to put in a call to the home office and let them know that a mono-Jewish impeachment of a duly elected goy President is VERY bad for the Jews.
         
        Not mono-J because Nancy Pelosi is not Jewish. But Jaba The Nadler is ugly and Schiff Show is bug eyed so guess what. This was a visual turn off for many fence sitters if they saw the hearings visuals on the boob tube. These piss poor visuals partly account for the Dems ongoing impeachment collapse, lets hope it keeps collapsing.
        I liked Donald storming (as the stooge media put it) out of the NATO confab. The real reason was Trump loves being feted by the UK Royals and after his Queenie meet up boredom set in. He rather be back home jousting with the stooges at his chopper press conferences. Conservative Treehouse was the first to name them this.
        , @ben tillman
        Wow -- the optics! Karlan and Feldman are absolute lunatics. They probably could have found a couple goyim who were equally frothing-at-the-mouth, but why not use SANE witnesses who might convince people that, yeah, we're reasonable, but what Trump did is beyond the pale?
      7. Coincidentally, Estonian is linguistically very similar to Finnish.

        • Replies: @theoldnorth
        It’s not at all a coincidence. They are in the same branch of the Uralic language family and their similarity are based in descent from a common proto-language.
      8. @Jack D
        So what is the Estonian's real secret? Not compared to Congolese or Mexicans, but compared to Swedes, Finns, etc? I would say that aside from their racial head start, being locked behind the iron curtain made them allergic to socialism and 40 years behind the decadence curve where all the intelligent young women pursue careers and have cats instead of children. Also Estonia is still low income enough that it's not appealing to Muslim immigrants.

        They are not allowed to enter and settle there irrespective of its relative appeal.

        Dont bring that shit here if you know whats good for you is the implied message…

      9. Like the article says Estonia pays and values teachers. Also, they have a progressive curriculum and do not let privielged children skip public schools

        If we in the USA did not allow segregation and freedom of association then we would high sccores as well

        • Replies: @orionyx
        On the contrary, if we excluded certain groups from our rankings, we wold score a good deal higher than we do.
      10. • Replies: @El Dato

        Tampa isn't the only place where long-lost African American graveyards have been found.

        Although two have been discovered in the bay area, and more sites are being investigated, the problem has a national scope, says an expert in lost black burial grounds.
         
        Okay.

        That is likely the story of the two missing graveyards found this year in Tampa, the Zion Cemetery in Tampa Heights mostly under Robles Park housing complex, and the Ridgewood Cemetery beneath a field and agriculture lab at King High School. Archaeologists have confirmed the presence of 145 graves at Ridgewood; 144 at Zion so far.
         
        Oh man, I feel a remake of Poltergeist winding its way out of Hollywood.

        Another important tool in the effort to find justice for the lost souls is ground-penetrating radar.
         
        From black bodies to lost souls crying for justice.

        Getting served by ground-penetrating radar.

        Oh Brave new World.

        (I thought "lost soul" is used to designate a person who is still alive, though in a bad way)
      11. @Jack D
        So what is the Estonian's real secret? Not compared to Congolese or Mexicans, but compared to Swedes, Finns, etc? I would say that aside from their racial head start, being locked behind the iron curtain made them allergic to socialism and 40 years behind the decadence curve where all the intelligent young women pursue careers and have cats instead of children. Also Estonia is still low income enough that it's not appealing to Muslim immigrants.

        Estonia is in the middle of a demographic collapse now but in the Soviet era they had nearly replacement fertility and a much lower age of starting families. In the Soviet era housing was assigned by the bureaucrats and it was much easier for young people to start families when they didn’t have to worry about getting a house first.

        This would be a good issue for the right but you’d have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred (even though urban construction is totally intertwined with government and only the right to live in the finished product is on the market) and then the even harder taboo problem that we’d want to make it easier for *some* young families to start families.

        • Agree: Andy, Bubba
        • Replies: @nebulafox
        >This would be a good issue for the right but you’d have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred

        You guys caught our illness, I see. Or they did: can't tell if you are Finnish or Estonian from your handle.

        I'll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.
      12. @Jaakko Raipala
        Estonia is in the middle of a demographic collapse now but in the Soviet era they had nearly replacement fertility and a much lower age of starting families. In the Soviet era housing was assigned by the bureaucrats and it was much easier for young people to start families when they didn't have to worry about getting a house first.

        This would be a good issue for the right but you'd have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred (even though urban construction is totally intertwined with government and only the right to live in the finished product is on the market) and then the even harder taboo problem that we'd want to make it easier for *some* young families to start families.

        >This would be a good issue for the right but you’d have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred

        You guys caught our illness, I see. Or they did: can’t tell if you are Finnish or Estonian from your handle.

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.

        • Replies: @Desiderius
        It's a process.

        A lot of young(ish) families here on the other side.
        , @Reg Cæsar

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not.
         
        Like the Bill of Rights?
        , @Reg Cæsar

        ...to be used when useful and discarded when not.
         
        As the original NRA felt about the First Amendment and its disestablishment:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_amendment


        Had Sen. Flanders (not Ned) prevailed in 1954, we might be able to outlaw the Koran. Which could be useful.
        , @Jack D

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not.
         
        Is it like what Erdogan said about democracy - it's like an elevator that you ride to get to your floor and when you reach it you get off?

        The market clearly has its limits - no modern country is 100% laissez faire. But you want to keep interference with markets to a minimum or you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
        , @Stan d Mute

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.
         
        In the contemporary era, “free market” is a misnomer - a utopian fantasy like “social justice” in the sense that its promoters are delusional fanatics. Calling something a “free market” when it is massively regulated, taxed, and often subsidized by the government is an even closer cousin of the “Muh Constitution!” sperg who draws a blank stare when asked at what point we ever had a government that was bound by it.

        If this “free market” is anything at all, it’s a propaganda tool.
      13. I think everyone must be reminded that the population of Estonia
        is only 1.325 million, and, as someone pointed out, Estonia is in
        a state of demographic collapse

        • Replies: @Anon 2
        Plus, to finish this thought, Estonia is really not a country - it’s basically
        a city-state, and city-states usually do well on international rankings
        of this sort
        , @Uku
        To call it a demographic collapse is exaggeration. The number of native estonians in Estonia has ranged within 0,90-1,00 million since the All-Russian Census of 1897. Native estonians have demographically been one of the most stable populations in the world, only 2-3x over the medieval population levels.
      14. @nebulafox
        >This would be a good issue for the right but you’d have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred

        You guys caught our illness, I see. Or they did: can't tell if you are Finnish or Estonian from your handle.

        I'll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.

        It’s a process.

        A lot of young(ish) families here on the other side.

      15. @Anon 2
        I think everyone must be reminded that the population of Estonia
        is only 1.325 million, and, as someone pointed out, Estonia is in
        a state of demographic collapse

        Plus, to finish this thought, Estonia is really not a country – it’s basically
        a city-state, and city-states usually do well on international rankings
        of this sort

        • Replies: @slumber_j

        city-states usually do well on international rankings of this sort
         
        Particularly if they're stocked with white and/or NE Asian people.
      16. Why are Estonian schools so segregated? Estonian children should be bussed to the South Bronx.

        And

        If Estonia can make it there

        Estonia can make it anywhere

        It’s up to you, Estonia

        Estonia

        Estonia

        Bus the Blacks to Malibu and make Kamala Harris drive.

        Biden vs Trump means big gains for Green Party.

        White Core America Party will take big vote totals from immigration policy backstabber Trump.

        IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

        DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!

      17. You think they don’t want to force Congiloids down their throats? The EU will if they can.

      18. @Desiderius
        BTW Jack, might want to put in a call to the home office and let them know that a mono-Jewish impeachment of a duly elected goy President is VERY bad for the Jews.

        You know random right-wing Jews have no influence whatsoever on Adam Schiff, Jerrod Nadler, and Co., right? 🙁

        • Replies: @kaganovitch
        You know random right-wing Jews have no influence whatsoever on Adam Schiff, Jerrod Nadler, and Co., right?

        So that's why he's not taking my calls!
        , @MBlanc46
        Right-wing Jews. I know that there are some. But the number can hardly be in triple digits.
        , @Desiderius
        Maybe you should look into opening some channels then. Serious as a heart attack.

        If some American expats in Israel got it into their heads to take out an elected president, I wouldn't let something like political affiliation stand in my way to stop them.
      19. Estonian children should be bussed to the South Bronx.

        Bused! Bused! Bused!

        You don’t even want to suggest bussing the young lady in the picture, who looks to be about 14. Look what they did to Roy Moore!

        Take another gander at that photo. Is it Estonian practice to place the left-handers to one side of the room? Is that their secret?

        And what about all their Russians? Are they smarter, or dumber? Or gone?

        • LOL: MBlanc46
        • Replies: @PiltdownMan

        Take another gander at that photo. Is it Estonian practice to place the left-handers to one side of the room? Is that their secret?
         
        It used to be common in many classrooms and school halls during exams—to prevent cheating by copying the work of the test-taker by your side.

        The right-handers get seated on the left, and the left-handers on the right.
        , @Stan Adams
        Steve once mocked Kamala Harris for writing bussed.

        https://www.unz.com/isteve/world-war-b-busing/
      20. The idea that putting kids into kindergarten at an earlier age gives them some noticeable intellectual advantage when they are 15-16 is so bizarre a notion that I don’t think anyone but an academic could come up with it.

        • Agree: Twodees Partain
        • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
        Early kindergarten seems to be a make work project for female ECE teachers. So of course academia (and teacher's unions) is going to be all in.
      21. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

        In the West, Diversity amounts to Negro Worship.

        After all, if blacks had higher IQ and were entering elite colleges in great numbers via SAT and etc, no one would dare take any action to reduce black numbers in favor of others.

        Too Many Blacks is Great Diversity.
        Too Few Blacks is Not Enough Diversity(even when many non-whites are represented).

      22. I get that there are concerns about Chinese cheating, but I’m surprised that none of the media wants to talk about how Chinese or East Asians are topping the PISA. This is even more apparent when you sort by Math, Science, or just average PISA score rather than sorting by Reading. Before the media talked about Finland, then Ireland, now Estonia as the wonder kid to model. You’d think that those most concerned about how our public systems are failing to deliver equitable outcomes for minorities would now be gushing over how non-whites are achieving great success and how this should be studied and implemented in US schools to improve outcomes of our minorities. I’m only being partly fascetious. I have no direct experience with East Asian teaching styles, I’m just going with my gut instinct, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some takeaways from East Asian teaching styles (like discipline, the belief that hard work can overcome innately weak subjects, etc.) that if implemented in our schools, could have actual impact on the outcomes of our minority students.

        • Replies: @Steve Sailer
        Finnish public schools sound pretty good. South Korean high schools sound pretty awful with lots of students sleeping through them so they can work hard in cram school in the evening. I reviewed a book by a journalist who followed American exchange students to Finland, Korea, and Poland:

        https://www.takimag.com/article/pisa_piece_by_piece_steve_sailer/

        Here's high school in Pusan:

        "A third of the class was asleep. Not nodding off, but flat-out, no apology sleeping with their heads down on the desks. One girl actually had her head on a special pillow that slipped over her forearm. This was pre-meditated napping."

        "He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped."
      23. Total Estonian population is only 1.3 million, which is less than Maine or New Hampshire. How many of them are 15-years olds who took the test? Estonians are smart and everything, but this result is most likely an outlier due to small sample size.

        • Replies: @Uku
        The sample size in Estonia was the standard 5000+ and it covered about 40% of all children of the age group. Your claim might have some merit on Iceland or Luxembourg, or not.
      24. Apparently, having a lot Russians and non whites in your country makes you have good test scores.

      25. You can’t tell from one picture, but it looks like they could be in a class from 20 or more years ago due to the lack of visible tech. I like how they are using writing sticks and paper.

        • Replies: @Redneck farmer
        Writing things down helps you remember them.
      26. @istevefan
        You can't tell from one picture, but it looks like they could be in a class from 20 or more years ago due to the lack of visible tech. I like how they are using writing sticks and paper.

        Writing things down helps you remember them.

      27. @Desiderius
        BTW Jack, might want to put in a call to the home office and let them know that a mono-Jewish impeachment of a duly elected goy President is VERY bad for the Jews.

        BTW Jack, might want to put in a call to the home office and let them know that a mono-Jewish impeachment of a duly elected goy President is VERY bad for the Jews.

        Not mono-J because Nancy Pelosi is not Jewish. But Jaba The Nadler is ugly and Schiff Show is bug eyed so guess what. This was a visual turn off for many fence sitters if they saw the hearings visuals on the boob tube. These piss poor visuals partly account for the Dems ongoing impeachment collapse, lets hope it keeps collapsing.
        I liked Donald storming (as the stooge media put it) out of the NATO confab. The real reason was Trump loves being feted by the UK Royals and after his Queenie meet up boredom set in. He rather be back home jousting with the stooges at his chopper press conferences. Conservative Treehouse was the first to name them this.

      28. @nebulafox
        >This would be a good issue for the right but you’d have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred

        You guys caught our illness, I see. Or they did: can't tell if you are Finnish or Estonian from your handle.

        I'll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not.

        Like the Bill of Rights?

      29. Are there any Mohameds or Shmuels in the MCU ? Or just Thors ?

        • Replies: @TWS
        Kamala Khan Muslim anchor of specials and shorts, Ben Grimm Jewish, Fantastic Four, Kitty Pryde Jewish has been featured in a dozen movies to shows specials etc. T'challa King of Truth's Homeland Wakanda. Ororo Munroe pagan weather goddess from various countries in Africa (depending on source) in a dozen movies, shows etc, the list of vibrants is long
      30. Estonians are kinda like Finns, no? Finns are smart.

        Also… Estonia is majority irreligious (54% of the population; another 16% didn’t answer the question).

        Given that oldies are more religious than the young, it would mean significantly more than 54% of Estonia’s kiddies have a bunch of spare CPU cycles that aren’t being wasted processing stupid fairy stories. Ditto storage… not being cluttered with drivel about talking snakes and first century Levantine beta-male revolutionaries, means they can use the space to store usefuller shit.

        • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
        Enver Hoxha lives! And reads the New Yorker!

        https://condenaststore.com/featured/a-talking-snake-liana-finck.html
        , @YetAnotherAnon
        There needs to be a 'cretin' button.
        , @El Dato
        "talking snake" is now transgender temptress, btw:

        Church of Sweden unveils altarpiece of paradise featuring gay couples and transgender serpent

        No I don't know what either.

        A church in Malmo has a new altarpiece meant to celebrate inclusivity by replacing Adam and Eve in paradise with gay couples in suggestive poses, while depicting the serpent tempting them as a transgender woman.

        The controversial work of art is not new. Photographer and artist Elisabeth Ohlson Wallin painted it in 2012 and tried to donate it to the Skara Cathedral just before the church was preparing to conduct the first same-sex wedding in its 1,000-year history.

        The openly lesbian artist, who has a history of blending religious imagery with pro-minority activism, said at the time that she wanted to test if the Church of Sweden was as gay-friendly as it claimed to be when it embraced same-sex marriage in 2009. The Skara Cathedral politely declined the gift, saying it was about political activism and not faith.
         
        Next: Gay Gargoyles.
        , @Uku
        Actually about 50-60% of native estonians believe in the Force (or in some Force), it is rather a lingering effect of animism. Animism itself should be viewed as a stone-age science and popular science in the form of game theory - back then the natural processes were described in animated terms, similarly as nowadays some social science describes societies in inanimated terms (diffusion, sublimation of subpopulations, mechanical stresses, fracturing, etc.). Once you break through that, what remains are descriptions of natural Forces. The finnic creation heroine Ilmatar describes natural forces that took hold during Bolling-Allerod. The interchange of ice ages - interstadials is depicted as the character named (H)Ukko / (H)Uku, which in germanic lore is known as Ragnarök (Hukko also means the Wolf of Doom, thus it is equivalent to Fenrir). Kalev / Kalevipoeg / Taara / Thor can be tied to the Kaali meteorite impact about 3500 years ago. Odin can be tied to the Odensholm island at the rim of the Neugrund meteorite impact. Perkunas / Põrguline / Perkele can be tied to the Ilumetsa meteorite impact. A fiery thunderous heavenly object that impacted the ground, broke the ground, rebounded and went underground (into Hell). Those were manifestations of natural forces that got animated. The stones were worshipped probably because they were the manifestation of glacial flows that shaped the landforms and carried large boulders from Finland to Estonia. Many brecchia from the Neugrund meteorite crater got carried away by the glacial flows as well, those brecchia were the likely clue how the origin of Neugrund was guessed by the prehistoric local people. Stones (from the Baltic Clint limestone or from elsewhere) also often contain fossils from prior geologic ages. Trees were worshipped because they are part of the underground mycorhizza network that provide essential natural services. Etc., etc., etc. One does not have to concentrate on the religious part of animism to appreciate the game-theoretic animist popular scientific part of it.
      31. Anonymous[406] • Disclaimer says:

        https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article238030539.html

        Check out the comments in the article about Zimmerman suing Trayvon’s family. High level comedy reading all of the blacks and white liberals being triggered when someone pointed out that blacks commit more crimes than anyone else. They all refuse to believe it and are furious!

        Someone even said it is not possible for 12 percent of the population to cause more crime than the other 88 percent, and someone else said to go to the fbi website to prove that whites are the real killers. My favorite part were multiple people making references to the kkk.

        SJW nonsense really is a religion.

        • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
        What's the trick to reading the article? Every time I try, I get the alert to turn off my ad blocker, but as soon as I do, the alert comes back on.
      32. Carry the wife correctly and bright children follow. It is in the Torah.

      33. @nebulafox
        >This would be a good issue for the right but you’d have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred

        You guys caught our illness, I see. Or they did: can't tell if you are Finnish or Estonian from your handle.

        I'll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.

        …to be used when useful and discarded when not.

        As the original NRA felt about the First Amendment and its disestablishment:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_amendment

        Had Sen. Flanders (not Ned) prevailed in 1954, we might be able to outlaw the Koran. Which could be useful.

      34. @Reg Cæsar

        Estonian children should be bussed to the South Bronx.
         
        Bused! Bused! Bused!

        You don't even want to suggest bussing the young lady in the picture, who looks to be about 14. Look what they did to Roy Moore!

        Take another gander at that photo. Is it Estonian practice to place the left-handers to one side of the room? Is that their secret?

        And what about all their Russians? Are they smarter, or dumber? Or gone?

        Take another gander at that photo. Is it Estonian practice to place the left-handers to one side of the room? Is that their secret?

        It used to be common in many classrooms and school halls during exams—to prevent cheating by copying the work of the test-taker by your side.

        The right-handers get seated on the left, and the left-handers on the right.

        • Replies: @mhowell
        Brings back a long forgotten memory. My junior high had these half desks that were almost always set up for right handed folks. There would sometimes be, however, a column of four or five desks on the far right side of the teacher configured for the left handed. Not every classroom had them but I was always glad to snag one of these desks when available.
      35. @Jack D
        So what is the Estonian's real secret? Not compared to Congolese or Mexicans, but compared to Swedes, Finns, etc? I would say that aside from their racial head start, being locked behind the iron curtain made them allergic to socialism and 40 years behind the decadence curve where all the intelligent young women pursue careers and have cats instead of children. Also Estonia is still low income enough that it's not appealing to Muslim immigrants.

        Read Jaakko. He understands. You don’t understand anything.

      36. @SFG
        You know random right-wing Jews have no influence whatsoever on Adam Schiff, Jerrod Nadler, and Co., right? :(

        You know random right-wing Jews have no influence whatsoever on Adam Schiff, Jerrod Nadler, and Co., right?

        So that’s why he’s not taking my calls!

      37. @nebulafox
        >This would be a good issue for the right but you’d have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred

        You guys caught our illness, I see. Or they did: can't tell if you are Finnish or Estonian from your handle.

        I'll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not.

        Is it like what Erdogan said about democracy – it’s like an elevator that you ride to get to your floor and when you reach it you get off?

        The market clearly has its limits – no modern country is 100% laissez faire. But you want to keep interference with markets to a minimum or you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

        • Replies: @SFG
        Honestly, the market's gone too far right now. Just because the USSR was a basket case doesn't mean nobody should ever tax rich people. Billionaires accumulate vast amounts of wealth and use it to buy politicians' loyalty.

        We wouldn't have to sit around arguing whether random billionaire Jews are bad because they're billionaires or because they're Jewish if guys like Adelson couldn't buy the f***ing party. What if Soros had a lot less money to throw around?

        Not to mention supporting woke crap, increased immigration, etc., all kinds of stuff that's great if you can hire maids and construction workers and lousy if you are one.
        , @MBlanc46
        A bit OT, but it’s also what Wittgenstein said about philosophy. It’s like a ladder that you use to climb to the next level, then you can discard it.
        , @Neil Templeton

        The market clearly has its limits – no modern country is 100% laissez faire. But you want to keep interference with markets to a minimum or you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
         
        Precisely. The nub is which markets to regulate. Crackers say no regulation of the gun market. I sympathize, for I am a product of that culture. Likewise, I don't favor regulation of ideas. However, I do favor regulation of the labor market through a moratorium on immigration for twenty years, and favor the preservation of public space through wilderness and various state and federal set-asides. So, although once a libertarian and disciple of von Mises, I have found limits. Other folks of other persuasions differ. Until recently, it appeared we could resolve our differences. Now, not so much. Thank you, Jack.
      38. Hey Steve I saw a good movie today on Netflix “Sweet Virginia” . It’s okay , you might like it .

      39. @Reg Cæsar

        Estonian children should be bussed to the South Bronx.
         
        Bused! Bused! Bused!

        You don't even want to suggest bussing the young lady in the picture, who looks to be about 14. Look what they did to Roy Moore!

        Take another gander at that photo. Is it Estonian practice to place the left-handers to one side of the room? Is that their secret?

        And what about all their Russians? Are they smarter, or dumber? Or gone?

        Steve once mocked Kamala Harris for writing bussed.

        https://www.unz.com/isteve/world-war-b-busing/

      40. @Desiderius
        BTW Jack, might want to put in a call to the home office and let them know that a mono-Jewish impeachment of a duly elected goy President is VERY bad for the Jews.

        Wow — the optics! Karlan and Feldman are absolute lunatics. They probably could have found a couple goyim who were equally frothing-at-the-mouth, but why not use SANE witnesses who might convince people that, yeah, we’re reasonable, but what Trump did is beyond the pale?

        • Replies: @Desiderius
        Because it isn’t, not close.

        Trump is like Asimov’s mule.
        , @anon
        Not only that, but Karlan and Feldman are stereotypical GenX / Boomer Ashkenazi.

        Karlan, the kooky lady, is a childless lesbian.

        Feldman, the kooky guy, is married to an Asian woman, with two Hapa kids.

        Trump Derangement Syndrome has largely been driven by Ashkenazi, who are quietly realizing their culture has imploded.
        , @Jack D
        Because the purpose was not to convince sane people. It was not to convince anyone who was not already convinced. They were there to preach to the choir. When a Mormon Elder puts on his funny underwear and starts babbling about how the Angel Moroni visited Joseph Smith and the American Indians were really the Lost Tribes of Israel the point is not to convince sane people.
        , @Nicholas Stix
        Pam Karlan sought to help steal the 2000 election for Al Gore:

        But according to Stanford University professor of public interest law, and former NAACP legal counsel, Pamela Karlan, voters are entitled to be as dumb as they wanna be. Appearing on Ted Koppel’s ABC-TV show, Nightline, on November 10, Karlan opined, “We don’t assume an intelligent, literate voter.”

        Translation: Voters have a right to keep on voting, until the Democrat wins. One of Prof. Karlan’s specialties is “legal regulation of the political process,” a euphemism for “the theory and practice of racial vote-rigging.”

        https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2019/02/whose-rights-our-rights-jackson-family.html
      41. @Jack D

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not.
         
        Is it like what Erdogan said about democracy - it's like an elevator that you ride to get to your floor and when you reach it you get off?

        The market clearly has its limits - no modern country is 100% laissez faire. But you want to keep interference with markets to a minimum or you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

        Honestly, the market’s gone too far right now. Just because the USSR was a basket case doesn’t mean nobody should ever tax rich people. Billionaires accumulate vast amounts of wealth and use it to buy politicians’ loyalty.

        We wouldn’t have to sit around arguing whether random billionaire Jews are bad because they’re billionaires or because they’re Jewish if guys like Adelson couldn’t buy the f***ing party. What if Soros had a lot less money to throw around?

        Not to mention supporting woke crap, increased immigration, etc., all kinds of stuff that’s great if you can hire maids and construction workers and lousy if you are one.

        • Replies: @Dissident

        We wouldn’t have to sit around arguing whether random billionaire Jews are bad because they’re billionaires or because they’re Jewish if guys like Adelson couldn’t buy the f***ing party.
         
        The correct answer to the question you presented is neither of the two you proposed. Neither being Jewish nor being a billionaire per se, is what makes individuals such as Adelson pernicious. Rather, it is, specifically, how they exert the inordinate influence that their inordinate wealth grants them.
      42. @nebulafox
        >This would be a good issue for the right but you’d have to get past the people who think that markets are sacred

        You guys caught our illness, I see. Or they did: can't tell if you are Finnish or Estonian from your handle.

        I'll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not. Generational differences, I suppose.

        In the contemporary era, “free market” is a misnomer – a utopian fantasy like “social justice” in the sense that its promoters are delusional fanatics. Calling something a “free market” when it is massively regulated, taxed, and often subsidized by the government is an even closer cousin of the “Muh Constitution!” sperg who draws a blank stare when asked at what point we ever had a government that was bound by it.

        If this “free market” is anything at all, it’s a propaganda tool.

      43. @SFG
        You know random right-wing Jews have no influence whatsoever on Adam Schiff, Jerrod Nadler, and Co., right? :(

        Right-wing Jews. I know that there are some. But the number can hardly be in triple digits.

        • Replies: @SFG
        Out of 14 million? More than that. A lot are more loyal to Israel, unfortunately.

        The ones who put America first tend to drift out of the tribe, since there is no reason not to assimilate. I mean, I have to either be on the left, and support all kinds of SJW s***, or on the right, and advocate America go to wars for Israel and billionaires be able to buy everything (and those two are related). Your Barry Goldwater or John Milius types just tend to convert or become totally irreligious.

        When they make a socially conservative, economically liberal party, I'll be the first to sign up.
        , @Flip
        Stephen Miller, Wayne Allyn Root, and Peter Schiff are fine people.
        , @Desiderius
        There are a lot. They need to get off their asses and knock some sense into these clowns.
      44. The final solution is obvious. The EU must implement Diversity, Equity, and Inclusivity measures towards Estonian pupils. (In other words, DIE)

      45. @Jack D

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not.
         
        Is it like what Erdogan said about democracy - it's like an elevator that you ride to get to your floor and when you reach it you get off?

        The market clearly has its limits - no modern country is 100% laissez faire. But you want to keep interference with markets to a minimum or you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

        A bit OT, but it’s also what Wittgenstein said about philosophy. It’s like a ladder that you use to climb to the next level, then you can discard it.

      46. @GH
        I get that there are concerns about Chinese cheating, but I’m surprised that none of the media wants to talk about how Chinese or East Asians are topping the PISA. This is even more apparent when you sort by Math, Science, or just average PISA score rather than sorting by Reading. Before the media talked about Finland, then Ireland, now Estonia as the wonder kid to model. You’d think that those most concerned about how our public systems are failing to deliver equitable outcomes for minorities would now be gushing over how non-whites are achieving great success and how this should be studied and implemented in US schools to improve outcomes of our minorities. I’m only being partly fascetious. I have no direct experience with East Asian teaching styles, I’m just going with my gut instinct, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some takeaways from East Asian teaching styles (like discipline, the belief that hard work can overcome innately weak subjects, etc.) that if implemented in our schools, could have actual impact on the outcomes of our minority students.

        Finnish public schools sound pretty good. South Korean high schools sound pretty awful with lots of students sleeping through them so they can work hard in cram school in the evening. I reviewed a book by a journalist who followed American exchange students to Finland, Korea, and Poland:

        https://www.takimag.com/article/pisa_piece_by_piece_steve_sailer/

        Here’s high school in Pusan:

        “A third of the class was asleep. Not nodding off, but flat-out, no apology sleeping with their heads down on the desks. One girl actually had her head on a special pillow that slipped over her forearm. This was pre-meditated napping.”

        “He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped.”

        • Replies: @Clyde

        “He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped.”
         
        All school work and cram school makes Kim a dull boy. All schooling, with his little downtime meaning gazing at devices. No aimless outside play and running around. Stinks for kid Kim. In the news is a fem looking K-Pop star committing suicide.
        , @WowJustWow
        It’s not just raw performance that matters, it’s return on investment, and opportunity cost. Think of those Chinese Olympic medalist divers who are basically adopted by the government and do nothing but practice diving for their entire childhood and adolescence.
        , @PiltdownMan
        Since Korean high school students are uniformly severely sleep deprived, presumably well beyond the point of diminishing returns, wouldn't their PISA scores likely increase above their already high levels if they adopted the saner study habits of Estonians or white Americans?


        Korean students sleep just 5.5 hours a day: survey

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040363/
        , @GH
        Wow, it’s hard for me to imagine an education system so different as the SK one. I guess I thought education systems were fairly uniform around the world, but it seems like there are quite a lot of fertile differences. It’s easy to see why education systems are hyper localized, with educators never bothering to make comparisons to peers around the world. I didn’t previously see the benefit, but it does seem like PISA is doing good work in bringing awareness and starting the discussion on education systems around the world.
        , @slumber_j
        Here in NYC's Upper East Side, it often seems as though school doesn't do much stopping either--at least if the experiences of my 15-y.o. daughter and 12-y.o. son are anything to go by.
      47. @Steve Sailer
        Finnish public schools sound pretty good. South Korean high schools sound pretty awful with lots of students sleeping through them so they can work hard in cram school in the evening. I reviewed a book by a journalist who followed American exchange students to Finland, Korea, and Poland:

        https://www.takimag.com/article/pisa_piece_by_piece_steve_sailer/

        Here's high school in Pusan:

        "A third of the class was asleep. Not nodding off, but flat-out, no apology sleeping with their heads down on the desks. One girl actually had her head on a special pillow that slipped over her forearm. This was pre-meditated napping."

        "He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped."

        “He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped.”

        All school work and cram school makes Kim a dull boy. All schooling, with his little downtime meaning gazing at devices. No aimless outside play and running around. Stinks for kid Kim. In the news is a fem looking K-Pop star committing suicide.

        • Replies: @Father O'Hara
        Didnt another K pop guy commit...MURDER!
        , @anon
        Republic of Korea Total Fertility Rate as of 2017 = 1.052

        https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=KR

        Estonia TFR in 2017 = 1.6

        https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=EE
      48. Steve, Estonia actually does have some diversity. Specifically, it has Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, a few Jews, and apparently even 80 Bedouins! Yes, seriously.

        • Replies: @Romanian
        I was surprised to hear that the Baltics have Gypsies from way back. I thought they were recent tourists from the likely places, but my Latvian hosts said that they have their own (40k in Riga, apparently). Maybe Estonia has some? Though with Baltic genetics, they might be blonde and blue eyed.
      49. @MBlanc46
        Right-wing Jews. I know that there are some. But the number can hardly be in triple digits.

        Out of 14 million? More than that. A lot are more loyal to Israel, unfortunately.

        The ones who put America first tend to drift out of the tribe, since there is no reason not to assimilate. I mean, I have to either be on the left, and support all kinds of SJW s***, or on the right, and advocate America go to wars for Israel and billionaires be able to buy everything (and those two are related). Your Barry Goldwater or John Milius types just tend to convert or become totally irreligious.

        When they make a socially conservative, economically liberal party, I’ll be the first to sign up.

        • Replies: @Dissident

        When they make a socially conservative, economically liberal party, I’ll be the first to sign up.
         
        I would suggest that such labels are too simplistic, too limiting, and have become ambiguous and even, to a large degree, moot.

        Some points to consider:
        - David French, a prominent "social conservative", has argued that abominations such as Drag Queen Story Hour must be tolerated in the name of the greater good of civility and pluralism. Others have argued "The Conservative Case for Gay Marriage".

        Those of us who recognize such scourges as the normalization of degeneracy, deviancy and depravity; the inversion of traditional morality; the denial of objective reality; and the sacralization of non-Whites and vilification of Whites (esp. those of the non-cosmopolitan variety) for the pernicious cancers that they are need to: (a) oppose them, unequivocally, unambiguously and unapologetically; (b) define and label ourselves accordingly, clearly and directly; (c) be able and ready to thoroughly refute our opponents' propaganda and arguments, including offering compassionate, comprehensive, prescriptive alternatives to those most vulnerable, targeted and affected by such propaganda and activism (such as same-sex-attracted individuals and those who are not at peace with the objective reality of their born-sex).
        (For more concerning "LGBTQ", etc., see this comment of mine and my others in that archived thread from Audacious Epigone's blog here at UR.)

        - "economically liberal" seems far too ambiguous a term. The prevailing economic orthodoxy-- what's brought us what our host has dubbed In-Hock to the World-- is known as neoliberal. Economics is perhaps one of the areas for which looking beyond liberal-conservative/right-left and other ideological labels is most warranted and would most behoove us.

        - "socially conservative, economically liberal" does not even cover, at least not directly, the two areas of policy on which there would appear to be the most consensus from those who respect this blog and comment here: Immigration and foreign policy; what our host has famously dubbed Invite the World/Invade the World.
      50. @MBlanc46
        Right-wing Jews. I know that there are some. But the number can hardly be in triple digits.

        Stephen Miller, Wayne Allyn Root, and Peter Schiff are fine people.

        • Replies: @WowJustWow
        A high verbal IQ helps you argue effectively for or against any system of ideas. Choosing an undersupplied niche political philosophy can be a solid career plan for those types.
      51. @Kratoklastes
        Estonians are kinda like Finns, no? Finns are smart.

        Also... Estonia is majority irreligious (54% of the population; another 16% didn't answer the question).

        Given that oldies are more religious than the young, it would mean significantly more than 54% of Estonia's kiddies have a bunch of spare CPU cycles that aren't being wasted processing stupid fairy stories. Ditto storage... not being cluttered with drivel about talking snakes and first century Levantine beta-male revolutionaries, means they can use the space to store usefuller shit.

        Enver Hoxha lives! And reads the New Yorker!

        https://condenaststore.com/featured/a-talking-snake-liana-finck.html

      52. @Steve Sailer
        Finnish public schools sound pretty good. South Korean high schools sound pretty awful with lots of students sleeping through them so they can work hard in cram school in the evening. I reviewed a book by a journalist who followed American exchange students to Finland, Korea, and Poland:

        https://www.takimag.com/article/pisa_piece_by_piece_steve_sailer/

        Here's high school in Pusan:

        "A third of the class was asleep. Not nodding off, but flat-out, no apology sleeping with their heads down on the desks. One girl actually had her head on a special pillow that slipped over her forearm. This was pre-meditated napping."

        "He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped."

        It’s not just raw performance that matters, it’s return on investment, and opportunity cost. Think of those Chinese Olympic medalist divers who are basically adopted by the government and do nothing but practice diving for their entire childhood and adolescence.

      53. @SFG
        You know random right-wing Jews have no influence whatsoever on Adam Schiff, Jerrod Nadler, and Co., right? :(

        Maybe you should look into opening some channels then. Serious as a heart attack.

        If some American expats in Israel got it into their heads to take out an elected president, I wouldn’t let something like political affiliation stand in my way to stop them.

        • Replies: @SFG
        No, seriously. I don't know anyone in the media, or finance, or legal academia. I don't even live in NYC anymore, and even if I did, Nadler would never return my calls, let alone call off impeachment.

        If you mean 'take out' through impeachment, I think the Senate will stop them--are they going to flip 14 GOP senators?

        If you mean something else...I have no personal knowledge of such a plan, and frankly would have no clue how to go about interfering with Mossad or anyone like that. I have no military or law enforcement training. I suspect they would hit me with a few bullets from 20 feet and be on their way.
      54. @MBlanc46
        Right-wing Jews. I know that there are some. But the number can hardly be in triple digits.

        There are a lot. They need to get off their asses and knock some sense into these clowns.

        • Replies: @Known Fact
        Oh great, so my assignment, if I choose to accept it, will be to woo Pamela Karlan -- meeting "cute" and magically turning her into a salt-of-the-earth flyover conservative and all-around good woman.
      55. @Flip
        Stephen Miller, Wayne Allyn Root, and Peter Schiff are fine people.

        A high verbal IQ helps you argue effectively for or against any system of ideas. Choosing an undersupplied niche political philosophy can be a solid career plan for those types.

      56. @Steve Sailer
        Finnish public schools sound pretty good. South Korean high schools sound pretty awful with lots of students sleeping through them so they can work hard in cram school in the evening. I reviewed a book by a journalist who followed American exchange students to Finland, Korea, and Poland:

        https://www.takimag.com/article/pisa_piece_by_piece_steve_sailer/

        Here's high school in Pusan:

        "A third of the class was asleep. Not nodding off, but flat-out, no apology sleeping with their heads down on the desks. One girl actually had her head on a special pillow that slipped over her forearm. This was pre-meditated napping."

        "He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped."

        Since Korean high school students are uniformly severely sleep deprived, presumably well beyond the point of diminishing returns, wouldn’t their PISA scores likely increase above their already high levels if they adopted the saner study habits of Estonians or white Americans?

        Korean students sleep just 5.5 hours a day: survey

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040363/

        • Replies: @nebulafox
        When I was having dinner in Seoul with a Korean dude who I was planning on studying algorithms and rudimentary mathematics with (we were in a similar situation of having lost a lot of our previous knowledge due to e-addiction and poor study habits that didn't focus on true understanding), I worried that I'd be so far behind him because his secondary education was so much more superior to mine.

        He said that between the focus on rote memorization and the lack of sleep impeding long-term absorbation of material beyond exam day, I shouldn't worry that much. He also mentioned that getting into the SKY universities was hellish, but once you got in, you were set and you didn't need to worry that much. At least I think: we had a lot of beer and soju that night, and my memories are a little hazy.
      57. @Jack D

        I’ll never understand people who think of the free market as anything other than a tool, to be used when useful and discarded when not.
         
        Is it like what Erdogan said about democracy - it's like an elevator that you ride to get to your floor and when you reach it you get off?

        The market clearly has its limits - no modern country is 100% laissez faire. But you want to keep interference with markets to a minimum or you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

        The market clearly has its limits – no modern country is 100% laissez faire. But you want to keep interference with markets to a minimum or you kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

        Precisely. The nub is which markets to regulate. Crackers say no regulation of the gun market. I sympathize, for I am a product of that culture. Likewise, I don’t favor regulation of ideas. However, I do favor regulation of the labor market through a moratorium on immigration for twenty years, and favor the preservation of public space through wilderness and various state and federal set-asides. So, although once a libertarian and disciple of von Mises, I have found limits. Other folks of other persuasions differ. Until recently, it appeared we could resolve our differences. Now, not so much. Thank you, Jack.

      58. @Clyde

        “He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped.”
         
        All school work and cram school makes Kim a dull boy. All schooling, with his little downtime meaning gazing at devices. No aimless outside play and running around. Stinks for kid Kim. In the news is a fem looking K-Pop star committing suicide.

        Didnt another K pop guy commit…MURDER!

      59. @Steve Sailer
        Finnish public schools sound pretty good. South Korean high schools sound pretty awful with lots of students sleeping through them so they can work hard in cram school in the evening. I reviewed a book by a journalist who followed American exchange students to Finland, Korea, and Poland:

        https://www.takimag.com/article/pisa_piece_by_piece_steve_sailer/

        Here's high school in Pusan:

        "A third of the class was asleep. Not nodding off, but flat-out, no apology sleeping with their heads down on the desks. One girl actually had her head on a special pillow that slipped over her forearm. This was pre-meditated napping."

        "He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped."

        Wow, it’s hard for me to imagine an education system so different as the SK one. I guess I thought education systems were fairly uniform around the world, but it seems like there are quite a lot of fertile differences. It’s easy to see why education systems are hyper localized, with educators never bothering to make comparisons to peers around the world. I didn’t previously see the benefit, but it does seem like PISA is doing good work in bringing awareness and starting the discussion on education systems around the world.

      60. @Desiderius
        Maybe you should look into opening some channels then. Serious as a heart attack.

        If some American expats in Israel got it into their heads to take out an elected president, I wouldn't let something like political affiliation stand in my way to stop them.

        No, seriously. I don’t know anyone in the media, or finance, or legal academia. I don’t even live in NYC anymore, and even if I did, Nadler would never return my calls, let alone call off impeachment.

        If you mean ‘take out’ through impeachment, I think the Senate will stop them–are they going to flip 14 GOP senators?

        If you mean something else…I have no personal knowledge of such a plan, and frankly would have no clue how to go about interfering with Mossad or anyone like that. I have no military or law enforcement training. I suspect they would hit me with a few bullets from 20 feet and be on their way.

        • Replies: @Desiderius
        I mean just what they’re doing, or attempting to do. It’s not a good place for a very small minority with outsized influence to be. Zucker, Pinch, Schiff, Nadler, Eisen, and the three stooges today. Somebody is putting a very Jewish face on a very shady endeavor.
        , @Desiderius
        Of course they can flip 14 GOP Senators. Why do you think they’re all sitting on their hands? That’s what is driving this whole business. They’d take President Pence in a heartbeat if they could get away with it.
      61. Anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

        The author, Jeffers, seems fixiated on the Estonian practice of starting kindergarten at the age of 3, not 5, as is done in the United States. It might help, but cant we let mommas enjoy their babies for these two extra years, and vice versa. Its that so bad? Your kids or only little once. Ya’ blink, and they are mouthy teenagers who think you are hopelessly behind the times.

      62. Anonymous[274] • Disclaimer says:

        Ironically the photo clearly shows the Estonian pupils mostly all holding their pencils with a monkey fist grip which occurs when the thumb is not used as a tactile controller of the writing/drawing instrument but only as a clumsy squeezer below the knuckle joint and the hand is essentially balled up into a fist instead of relaxed.

        This is a dumb grip. Not the grip of any great writer or artist.

        But it is the classic grip for Norman Bates type downward stabbing motions.

      63. @ben tillman
        Wow -- the optics! Karlan and Feldman are absolute lunatics. They probably could have found a couple goyim who were equally frothing-at-the-mouth, but why not use SANE witnesses who might convince people that, yeah, we're reasonable, but what Trump did is beyond the pale?

        Because it isn’t, not close.

        Trump is like Asimov’s mule.

        • Replies: @El Dato
        Maybe he's like the Foundation.

        (I'm not following this bullshit closely, but being Triggered by Trump Hotel beats even Blasey Ford.)


        Pamela Karlan: “What worries me is, imagine that the next disaster is something like the [Oklahoma City] bombing. He’s gonna claim it was Muslims. And there’s gonna be backlash and there’s gonna be all kinds of problems there. Look at the fact that we haven’t had a mass terrorist attack in the United States, but we’ve had some pretty serious crimes since he’s become president, and look at how long it took him to say anything about the stabbing of those two men on the metro train in Portland… Part of why he’s trying to destabilize the courts is so there will be somebody else to blame rather than him if something goes wrong.”

         
        Get ready for a "Muslim attack" on the scale of the OKC "we lost the tapes" weirdshow.
      64. @SFG
        No, seriously. I don't know anyone in the media, or finance, or legal academia. I don't even live in NYC anymore, and even if I did, Nadler would never return my calls, let alone call off impeachment.

        If you mean 'take out' through impeachment, I think the Senate will stop them--are they going to flip 14 GOP senators?

        If you mean something else...I have no personal knowledge of such a plan, and frankly would have no clue how to go about interfering with Mossad or anyone like that. I have no military or law enforcement training. I suspect they would hit me with a few bullets from 20 feet and be on their way.

        I mean just what they’re doing, or attempting to do. It’s not a good place for a very small minority with outsized influence to be. Zucker, Pinch, Schiff, Nadler, Eisen, and the three stooges today. Somebody is putting a very Jewish face on a very shady endeavor.

        • Replies: @SFG
        I agree.

        I am reaching the point where, with a few more years and a frugal lifestyle, I could walk away from my career. I could get on Twitter full-time and start fights with these... people, perhaps do the Project Veritas thing. If all the troublemakers are young guys, a middle-aged fellow with vaguely Mediterranean/Semitic features might not be expected by TPTB.

        I am also reaching the point where I will be too old to start a family (not biologically, but in terms of attracting a woman young enough who isn't just after my money).

        Obviously, I cannot do both. (I'm not Curtis Yarvin.)
      65. @SFG
        No, seriously. I don't know anyone in the media, or finance, or legal academia. I don't even live in NYC anymore, and even if I did, Nadler would never return my calls, let alone call off impeachment.

        If you mean 'take out' through impeachment, I think the Senate will stop them--are they going to flip 14 GOP senators?

        If you mean something else...I have no personal knowledge of such a plan, and frankly would have no clue how to go about interfering with Mossad or anyone like that. I have no military or law enforcement training. I suspect they would hit me with a few bullets from 20 feet and be on their way.

        Of course they can flip 14 GOP Senators. Why do you think they’re all sitting on their hands? That’s what is driving this whole business. They’d take President Pence in a heartbeat if they could get away with it.

      66. Anonymous[599] • Disclaimer says:

        You might jest.

        But seeing that Estonia is an EU member state, and it’s entirely probable that Estonian living standards will match, or even surpass, average EU living standards in the not too distant future, then there is absolutely *nothing* ethnic Estonians can do to stop a massive influx of ‘fellow EU citizens’ – that is swarms of underclass blacks and browns – from the failing western European states of France, Italy, the UK etc etc flooding into Estonia to demand their piece of the ‘European’ pie for themselves.

        Stranger things have happened in the past.

        • Replies: @Jake
        That is exactly the plan laid out for Estonia and every other East European nation in the EU and/or NATO. The Anglo-Zionist Empire demands that eventually their lands be ruled by Jewish bankers, with some help from Arab oilmen, and that gays rule the roost, while lower level blacks and browns overwhelm the land.
      67. @Desiderius
        Because it isn’t, not close.

        Trump is like Asimov’s mule.

        Maybe he’s like the Foundation.

        (I’m not following this bullshit closely, but being Triggered by Trump Hotel beats even Blasey Ford.)

        Pamela Karlan: “What worries me is, imagine that the next disaster is something like the [Oklahoma City] bombing. He’s gonna claim it was Muslims. And there’s gonna be backlash and there’s gonna be all kinds of problems there. Look at the fact that we haven’t had a mass terrorist attack in the United States, but we’ve had some pretty serious crimes since he’s become president, and look at how long it took him to say anything about the stabbing of those two men on the metro train in Portland… Part of why he’s trying to destabilize the courts is so there will be somebody else to blame rather than him if something goes wrong.”

        Get ready for a “Muslim attack” on the scale of the OKC “we lost the tapes” weirdshow.

      68. @Neoconned
        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-7755623/New-York-drops-10-visited-cities-world-ranking-Hong-Kong-top.html

        NYC falls off the list of ten most visited cities.....my ex lives in Hoboken jersey and she told me you can spend $100 a day there easily quite literally doing nothing but walking around and eating....too expensive??

        When visiting NYC you can expect to hand a $20 bill to somebody ever few minutes.

        Jack Nicklaus scheduled a two week honeymoon in NYC in c. 1961 for him and Barb, but after a few days he noticed that he was spending $96 per day so he called off the honeymoon and there aren’t any golf courses in Manhattan, but swung by Pine Valley in NJ on the way back to Columbus. That’s an all-male club, so Barb wasn’t allowed to ride in the cart but there are a few public roads from which you can see the golf course, so Barb had that going for her.

        • Replies: @Graham
        Just like London. Bang went saxpence, as the Scotsman said.

        https://punch.photoshelter.com/image/I0000pr0Ge8xcYyE
        , @ScarletNumber
        Pine Valley incorporated itself as its own town in 1929 and currently has a population of 12.

        OT

        49ers broadcaster Tim Ryan has been suspended for one week for stating on a radio show that Ravens' quarterback Lamar Jackson had an advantage due to his skin color matching the shade of the ball. Keep in mind that the reason the Browns wear orange helmets is that it is against NFL rules to have any part of the uniform be brown.
      69. @Kratoklastes
        Estonians are kinda like Finns, no? Finns are smart.

        Also... Estonia is majority irreligious (54% of the population; another 16% didn't answer the question).

        Given that oldies are more religious than the young, it would mean significantly more than 54% of Estonia's kiddies have a bunch of spare CPU cycles that aren't being wasted processing stupid fairy stories. Ditto storage... not being cluttered with drivel about talking snakes and first century Levantine beta-male revolutionaries, means they can use the space to store usefuller shit.

        There needs to be a ‘cretin’ button.

        • Agree: TWS
      70. @Steve Sailer
        When visiting NYC you can expect to hand a $20 bill to somebody ever few minutes.

        Jack Nicklaus scheduled a two week honeymoon in NYC in c. 1961 for him and Barb, but after a few days he noticed that he was spending $96 per day so he called off the honeymoon and there aren't any golf courses in Manhattan, but swung by Pine Valley in NJ on the way back to Columbus. That's an all-male club, so Barb wasn't allowed to ride in the cart but there are a few public roads from which you can see the golf course, so Barb had that going for her.

        Just like London. Bang went saxpence, as the Scotsman said.

        https://punch.photoshelter.com/image/I0000pr0Ge8xcYyE

        • Agree: Desiderius
        • Replies: @Desiderius
        Can confirm.

        This Ohioan has cut short trips trips to both for that exact reason. The Almighty is the only one who gets to run a meter on me.
      71. So I guess Estonia is doing OK without adjusting for race — is that about right?

        OT (“It Must be All the Diversity”)

        link –> NEW: Employees of Alexandria, Virginia owned, VetFed Resources visited members of Congress today demanding assistance in getting answers from @DeptVetAffairs as to why their contract to provide medical disability exams was “terminated.”

        See foto below of said employees.

        link –> In a statement to @FOX5DC, @DeptVetAffairs said the contract isn’t being renewed due to poor performance; …

      72. @HammerJack
        Little countries like Estonia will probably be the final redoubts of the white race, before they too are snuffed out. Or is anyone counting on Russia? I know I am.

        I don’t know what’s going on, but there is “think tank” talk about taking Kaliningrad in 24h flat (as Russian commenters counter with “we have nukes, you know”) and there is something called a “Baltics & Poland defense plan” that has now been officialized during the latest NATO shindig.

        Whenever you are the object of a “defense plan”, it’s not a good sign.

        Maybe Estonia will soon be rubble.

      73. @Kratoklastes
        Estonians are kinda like Finns, no? Finns are smart.

        Also... Estonia is majority irreligious (54% of the population; another 16% didn't answer the question).

        Given that oldies are more religious than the young, it would mean significantly more than 54% of Estonia's kiddies have a bunch of spare CPU cycles that aren't being wasted processing stupid fairy stories. Ditto storage... not being cluttered with drivel about talking snakes and first century Levantine beta-male revolutionaries, means they can use the space to store usefuller shit.

        “talking snake” is now transgender temptress, btw:

        Church of Sweden unveils altarpiece of paradise featuring gay couples and transgender serpent

        No I don’t know what either.

        A church in Malmo has a new altarpiece meant to celebrate inclusivity by replacing Adam and Eve in paradise with gay couples in suggestive poses, while depicting the serpent tempting them as a transgender woman.

        The controversial work of art is not new. Photographer and artist Elisabeth Ohlson Wallin painted it in 2012 and tried to donate it to the Skara Cathedral just before the church was preparing to conduct the first same-sex wedding in its 1,000-year history.

        The openly lesbian artist, who has a history of blending religious imagery with pro-minority activism, said at the time that she wanted to test if the Church of Sweden was as gay-friendly as it claimed to be when it embraced same-sex marriage in 2009. The Skara Cathedral politely declined the gift, saying it was about political activism and not faith.

        Next: Gay Gargoyles.

      74. @Monsieur le Baron
        Off topic, but Steve related.
        https://thediplomat.com/2019/12/where-does-the-asian-obsession-with-white-skin-come-from/
        “In Thai classical literature, heroines who are described as having a fair complexion, as if painted with gold, are considered as beautiful,” he said. “So, it’s the different shade of white that was a standard in the past. After the Western and Korean influences, the preferred shade is pinkish white.”

        Let's talk about my skin, says female reporter.

        Really, the reason is because pale skin is considered more feminine. Pale women will get dicked more but the male children will get paler skin too, resulting in a feedback loop

        They’ll go paler and paler until they get to skin cancer in moonlight tier, and that’s basically the natural limit, which depends on area to area.

        Some things can distort it, like numbers and time spent in an area (which is why many amerindians are darker than expected)

        Asians got the better form though, at least they tan quickly and burns less, while europeans burn first (but can tan good)

      75. “Why are Estonian schools so segregated? Estonian children should be bussed to the South Bronx.”

        I assume you know that once our Anglo-Zionist Empire manages to gain the power to do so it will act to force such on all white Gentiles.

        I guess we can take comfort in the fact that true ethnic WASPs never harmed any white Christian culture, never acted in ways that created and facilitated cultural genocide of a non-WASP white culture. If only all those really smart WASPs hadn’t been tricked into becoming friends with a few Jews who took advantage of them.

      76. @HammerJack
        Little countries like Estonia will probably be the final redoubts of the white race, before they too are snuffed out. Or is anyone counting on Russia? I know I am.

        Russia is the third largest recipients of immigration in the world, and the Stans are not sending their best.

        • Replies: @Charon
        Interesting. I thought Russia was second .
      77. @Anonymous
        You might jest.

        But seeing that Estonia is an EU member state, and it's entirely probable that Estonian living standards will match, or even surpass, average EU living standards in the not too distant future, then there is absolutely *nothing* ethnic Estonians can do to stop a massive influx of 'fellow EU citizens' - that is swarms of underclass blacks and browns - from the failing western European states of France, Italy, the UK etc etc flooding into Estonia to demand their piece of the 'European' pie for themselves.

        Stranger things have happened in the past.

        That is exactly the plan laid out for Estonia and every other East European nation in the EU and/or NATO. The Anglo-Zionist Empire demands that eventually their lands be ruled by Jewish bankers, with some help from Arab oilmen, and that gays rule the roost, while lower level blacks and browns overwhelm the land.

      78. @Desiderius
        Singing

        https://youtu.be/Re1Lj3dH0fc

        Don’t you miss the days when the AMG nee BBG could put together a propaganda piece that you’d almost believe? All those millions of Balts, building a human chain spreading for hundreds of kilometers beyond the reach of any camera? All the excitement around the return of the Estonian government-in-exile, led by the very Estonian-named Heinrich Mark?

        If Soviets / Russians eve wanted to take Estonia back, there would be less resistance than in Donbass and Crimea. (If that’s possible.) The number of people who did fighting Stalin during his two re-occupations of Imperial Estlandskaya Oblast is precisely zero. But yeah, there might have been lots of singing, if Voice of America had already existed.

        • Replies: @Desiderius
        Nah, brah, that was real. I was in the middle of a similar celebration in Hungary in the Spring of '90.

        Russia : USSR :: America : Rainbow Empire

        There's a new empire in town, built on just as many lies as the old one. I wouldn't blame them if they did look to Russia as a counterweight. Lidless Eye of Soros doesn't sleep.

        https://t.co/B6rd0YZMHE

        Ukraine Fires Prosecutor Investigating Burisma And Hunter Biden, Transfers Cases To Soros-Controlled NABU For Closure
        December 4, 2019
        , @Jack D
        Right, the Estonians would welcome their fraternal Russian brothers with open arms once again! They love the Russian people! They will welcome them with song! Who wouldn't want to be occupied by the Russians?
      79. @Graham
        Just like London. Bang went saxpence, as the Scotsman said.

        https://punch.photoshelter.com/image/I0000pr0Ge8xcYyE

        Can confirm.

        This Ohioan has cut short trips trips to both for that exact reason. The Almighty is the only one who gets to run a meter on me.

        • Replies: @theMann
        I just did an Expedia search for 3 different weeks next year comparing:Rome, Dublin, Las Vegas, and Vienna against NYC. Flight/hotel was cheaper for all of them. And that doesn't begin to factor restaurants, mass transit/cabs, and of course, how people will treat you.

        You can try your own searches, I am curious to see if I can go India cheaper than the Big Apple.
      80. anon[298] • Disclaimer says:

        “I would say that aside from their racial head start, being locked behind the iron curtain made them allergic to socialism”

        Perhaps the opposite. I would guess Estonia is a much more traditional, and specifically, more collectivist society as compared to Sweden, etc. The one good legacy of communism, perhaps. Works fine for the Chinese, too. Collectivism makes it easier to adopt and implement policy without too much conflict or watering down. Now compare Estonia to the US in nearly anything and you’ll see the opposite — healthcare, social policy, environmental policy…

      81. @Anon 2
        Plus, to finish this thought, Estonia is really not a country - it’s basically
        a city-state, and city-states usually do well on international rankings
        of this sort

        city-states usually do well on international rankings of this sort

        Particularly if they’re stocked with white and/or NE Asian people.

      82. @Steve Sailer
        Finnish public schools sound pretty good. South Korean high schools sound pretty awful with lots of students sleeping through them so they can work hard in cram school in the evening. I reviewed a book by a journalist who followed American exchange students to Finland, Korea, and Poland:

        https://www.takimag.com/article/pisa_piece_by_piece_steve_sailer/

        Here's high school in Pusan:

        "A third of the class was asleep. Not nodding off, but flat-out, no apology sleeping with their heads down on the desks. One girl actually had her head on a special pillow that slipped over her forearm. This was pre-meditated napping."

        "He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped."

        Here in NYC’s Upper East Side, it often seems as though school doesn’t do much stopping either–at least if the experiences of my 15-y.o. daughter and 12-y.o. son are anything to go by.

        • Replies: @SFG
        That's the most expensive district (though perhaps the West Side has pulled ahead?) in the largest city of the American Empire, though. Not that representative.
      83. @donut
        Are there any Mohameds or Shmuels in the MCU ? Or just Thors ?

        Kamala Khan Muslim anchor of specials and shorts, Ben Grimm Jewish, Fantastic Four, Kitty Pryde Jewish has been featured in a dozen movies to shows specials etc. T’challa King of Truth’s Homeland Wakanda. Ororo Munroe pagan weather goddess from various countries in Africa (depending on source) in a dozen movies, shows etc, the list of vibrants is long

      84. @songbird
        The idea that putting kids into kindergarten at an earlier age gives them some noticeable intellectual advantage when they are 15-16 is so bizarre a notion that I don't think anyone but an academic could come up with it.

        Early kindergarten seems to be a make work project for female ECE teachers. So of course academia (and teacher’s unions) is going to be all in.

      85. @Jack D
        So what is the Estonian's real secret? Not compared to Congolese or Mexicans, but compared to Swedes, Finns, etc? I would say that aside from their racial head start, being locked behind the iron curtain made them allergic to socialism and 40 years behind the decadence curve where all the intelligent young women pursue careers and have cats instead of children. Also Estonia is still low income enough that it's not appealing to Muslim immigrants.

        So what is the Estonian’s real secret?

        Their average IQ is not diluted by POCs.

      86. @slumber_j
        Here in NYC's Upper East Side, it often seems as though school doesn't do much stopping either--at least if the experiences of my 15-y.o. daughter and 12-y.o. son are anything to go by.

        That’s the most expensive district (though perhaps the West Side has pulled ahead?) in the largest city of the American Empire, though. Not that representative.

      87. @Tiny Duck
        Like the article says Estonia pays and values teachers. Also, they have a progressive curriculum and do not let privielged children skip public schools

        If we in the USA did not allow segregation and freedom of association then we would high sccores as well

        On the contrary, if we excluded certain groups from our rankings, we wold score a good deal higher than we do.

      88. @Desiderius
        I mean just what they’re doing, or attempting to do. It’s not a good place for a very small minority with outsized influence to be. Zucker, Pinch, Schiff, Nadler, Eisen, and the three stooges today. Somebody is putting a very Jewish face on a very shady endeavor.

        I agree.

        I am reaching the point where, with a few more years and a frugal lifestyle, I could walk away from my career. I could get on Twitter full-time and start fights with these… people, perhaps do the Project Veritas thing. If all the troublemakers are young guys, a middle-aged fellow with vaguely Mediterranean/Semitic features might not be expected by TPTB.

        I am also reaching the point where I will be too old to start a family (not biologically, but in terms of attracting a woman young enough who isn’t just after my money).

        Obviously, I cannot do both. (I’m not Curtis Yarvin.)

        • Replies: @Desiderius
        You can.

        Leave the fancy shit to the young bucks. Just develop some relationships with your fellow elders and ask some pertinent questions. They're no dummies.
        , @AnotherDad
        SFG, broken record here, but seriously you have the smarts, if you've got a decent job, even if you've got a few years on, while you won't appeal to the fresh crop of co-eds anymore, if you search diligently you can find a decent girl who has wised up a bit and is ready to devote herself to being a wife and mother.

        Enjoy her and most of all the children you create and raise together. Nothing else will match it.

        There's plenty of time to be an old fart and spar on-line. But battling for national survival is all for nought if our "smart fraction" is not reproducing itself.

        And did i mention ... this will be both the most enjoyable and the most meaningful thing you ever do.
        , @nebulafox
        Are you sure? A woman who is in her mid-30s and has taken care of her body still has time for a couple of kids, if she is so inclined. (40 is when fertility totally fades.) They'll be more at risk for turning out mentally exotic, and you'll probably have to make more of an effort to conceive, but tell me the joys of normality in this day and age for the former, and for the latter, who complains about that part in the process?

        My goal-I'm in my mid-20s-is to said up as much money as I can for the next near decade or so, FIRE out if I can, save up my treasure if it is not enough, and then go back and get the damned physics PhD like I should have. Afterwards? Hell, I don't know, as long it involves cool math and computers, I'm game.

        I don't know if kids are in the future for me-with my mental chemistry, I sometimes wonder if it is genuinely responsible to me to pass on my genetics. But on the off chance they are, the good news is that universities tend to give really good benefits to new parents in terms of healthcare, daycare, etc. When your kids are 2-3 years old, it isn't like you can go anywhere or do much of anything anyway, and while graduate school is hellishly intense, it also tends to not demand strict 8-5 hours in favor of an "you're always on call 24/7, but if you need to go do something, you can" deal.

        Wise idea? If so, better go work on that future than posting here all the time, lol.
      89. Turned fifty today. One of my two-year-olds woke me up to wish me happy birthday. Never too late (for men). My wonderful wife is in her forties, but their genes came from a 24-year-old.

      90. @Steve Sailer
        When visiting NYC you can expect to hand a $20 bill to somebody ever few minutes.

        Jack Nicklaus scheduled a two week honeymoon in NYC in c. 1961 for him and Barb, but after a few days he noticed that he was spending $96 per day so he called off the honeymoon and there aren't any golf courses in Manhattan, but swung by Pine Valley in NJ on the way back to Columbus. That's an all-male club, so Barb wasn't allowed to ride in the cart but there are a few public roads from which you can see the golf course, so Barb had that going for her.

        Pine Valley incorporated itself as its own town in 1929 and currently has a population of 12.

        OT

        49ers broadcaster Tim Ryan has been suspended for one week for stating on a radio show that Ravens’ quarterback Lamar Jackson had an advantage due to his skin color matching the shade of the ball. Keep in mind that the reason the Browns wear orange helmets is that it is against NFL rules to have any part of the uniform be brown.

        • Replies: @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
        "[I]t is against NFL rules to have any part of the uniform be brown." What could be the reason for such a rule? And this is contradicted by
        https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-to-wear-color-rush-uniforms-for-first-time-ever-and-heres-what-they-look-like/
        "[T]he Browns officially announced this week that they would be wearing the all-brown uniforms."

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Color_Rush
        hints that the NFL is very color-coordinated fashion-minded.
        , @MC
        But......the Browns wear brown jerseys.
      91. @SFG
        I agree.

        I am reaching the point where, with a few more years and a frugal lifestyle, I could walk away from my career. I could get on Twitter full-time and start fights with these... people, perhaps do the Project Veritas thing. If all the troublemakers are young guys, a middle-aged fellow with vaguely Mediterranean/Semitic features might not be expected by TPTB.

        I am also reaching the point where I will be too old to start a family (not biologically, but in terms of attracting a woman young enough who isn't just after my money).

        Obviously, I cannot do both. (I'm not Curtis Yarvin.)

        You can.

        Leave the fancy shit to the young bucks. Just develop some relationships with your fellow elders and ask some pertinent questions. They’re no dummies.

      92. @HammerJack
        Little countries like Estonia will probably be the final redoubts of the white race, before they too are snuffed out. Or is anyone counting on Russia? I know I am.

        A mistake that WN’s often make is to assume that Russians are “fellow white people”. (For some reason they don’t make that mistake with Jews). Russians are white on the outside but are Asiatic or Eastern on the inside (what’s the opposite of a banana?). They are the product of a different history and different civilization. They are the heirs of Byzantium and not Rome. Byzantium and its child Russia and Rome and its child, the West are descended from a common father but they are like two brothers who are very different from each other. The West is Beau Biden the war hero and Russia is Hunter Biden who gets drunk a lot and knocks up strippers. So if you are betting on Russia to save Roman (Western) civilization you are betting on the wrong horse.

        • Replies: @Magic Dirt Resident
        Yep, Russia has never been considered western until very recently. In fact, the policy of Austria-Hungary and Germany for almost their whole existence was mitigating Russian influence and keeping them out of Europe proper.

        However, I still think having a large, powerful country like Russia be ardently nationalist will help western countries do the same.
        , @nebulafox
        I'd make that analogy between Christianity and Islam, TBH. Same Judaic mother, but vastly different fathers: Greco-Roman vs. Persian. Much of the stuff we consider normative in Islam today would not have been found in the first century of the religion's existence: they took up a lot of stuff from Zororastrianism.

        As far as Russia goes, I wouldn't go so far as to say that there is no Western influence whatsoever, and the idea that Russians are just closet Asians has more than a whiff of Western European propaganda (Charles, Napoleon and Hitler all really played this up, which is not to say they didn't genuinely believe it) about it. It isn't that simple: the Eastern Slavs were on the periphery of Europe, not Asia, even back in the Middle Ages. They looked to Constantinople and their nobility intermarried with European families rather than Asian ones. Their only experience under properly "Asian" rule was the Mongols: and that wasn't an experience they were eager to repeat! As far as the structure of government goes and the supposedly Byzantine features of the Russian state, continuity between the Tsarist autocracy under the Romanovs to its predecessors can be overstated: Peter the Great's reforms turned Russia's state structure into something that more resembled a European absolute monarchy with steroids than the old Muscovite autocracy.

        What I'd definitely agree with you on, though, is that Russia and Russian civilization is a totally different cultural construct from "the west", as the Russians themselves were often wont to emphasize! And if you think of them as akin to "Westerners", you might as well give the same designation to the Persians, who were the original Aryans and often have pale skin and green eyes. On an overall level, Russians strike me as neither eastern nor western. They are their own unique, idiosyncratic thing with their own traditions. I'd say that between Europe and Asia proper (China, the Mongols, etc), they took way more influences and are closer to Europe, both in terms of looks and outlook, but they aren't part of it.

        Similarly, in the end, the Russian Empire-and the USSR after it-struck me as being a lot like the United States or Brazil. It was its own unique, complex world unto itself, with its own unique rules and norms. Neither East nor West. Maybe a bridge, but not exactly a hybrid.
        , @Chet Bradley

        So if you are betting on Russia to save Roman (Western) civilization you are betting on the wrong horse.
         
        That's a feature, not a bug.
      93. @Neoconned
        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-7755623/New-York-drops-10-visited-cities-world-ranking-Hong-Kong-top.html

        NYC falls off the list of ten most visited cities.....my ex lives in Hoboken jersey and she told me you can spend $100 a day there easily quite literally doing nothing but walking around and eating....too expensive??

        This list is very deceptive:

        “Hong Kong remains at the top of the most-visited list with 26.7million visitors followed by Bangkok with 25.8million and Macau with 20.6million.”

        In the case of HK and Macau, probably 90% of the visitors are Chinese and many of those are day trippers coming across from southern China in order to buy safe baby formula and gamble. There are a billion+ Chinese and they can now afford travel and are eager to see the world after decades of poverty and isolation. If you eliminate the Chinese from the list (and it’s never good to structure your tourist industry around the Chinese – you never know when your leader might say something that “insults the Chinese people” (i.e. displeases the CPC) and they will all stop coming overnight) then it would look very different. Generally speaking a place with a lot of Chinese tourists is a place to avoid – busloads of Chinese tourists really don’t add to the ambiance of wherever you are visiting.

      94. @Jack D
        A mistake that WN's often make is to assume that Russians are "fellow white people". (For some reason they don't make that mistake with Jews). Russians are white on the outside but are Asiatic or Eastern on the inside (what's the opposite of a banana?). They are the product of a different history and different civilization. They are the heirs of Byzantium and not Rome. Byzantium and its child Russia and Rome and its child, the West are descended from a common father but they are like two brothers who are very different from each other. The West is Beau Biden the war hero and Russia is Hunter Biden who gets drunk a lot and knocks up strippers. So if you are betting on Russia to save Roman (Western) civilization you are betting on the wrong horse.

        Yep, Russia has never been considered western until very recently. In fact, the policy of Austria-Hungary and Germany for almost their whole existence was mitigating Russian influence and keeping them out of Europe proper.

        However, I still think having a large, powerful country like Russia be ardently nationalist will help western countries do the same.

      95. Yes, but whatabout the hair?

      96. @Desiderius
        Can confirm.

        This Ohioan has cut short trips trips to both for that exact reason. The Almighty is the only one who gets to run a meter on me.

        I just did an Expedia search for 3 different weeks next year comparing:Rome, Dublin, Las Vegas, and Vienna against NYC. Flight/hotel was cheaper for all of them. And that doesn’t begin to factor restaurants, mass transit/cabs, and of course, how people will treat you.

        You can try your own searches, I am curious to see if I can go India cheaper than the Big Apple.

      97. @ScarletNumber
        Pine Valley incorporated itself as its own town in 1929 and currently has a population of 12.

        OT

        49ers broadcaster Tim Ryan has been suspended for one week for stating on a radio show that Ravens' quarterback Lamar Jackson had an advantage due to his skin color matching the shade of the ball. Keep in mind that the reason the Browns wear orange helmets is that it is against NFL rules to have any part of the uniform be brown.

        “[I]t is against NFL rules to have any part of the uniform be brown.” What could be the reason for such a rule? And this is contradicted by
        https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-to-wear-color-rush-uniforms-for-first-time-ever-and-heres-what-they-look-like/
        “[T]he Browns officially announced this week that they would be wearing the all-brown uniforms.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Color_Rush
        hints that the NFL is very color-coordinated fashion-minded.

        • Replies: @ScarletNumber
        Hmm. That's a good point. Here is the actual rule (4.4.7)...

        Headgear or any other equipment or apparel which, in the opinion of the Referee, may confuse an opponent because of its similarity in color to that of the game football [are prohibited]. If such color is worn, it must be broken by stripes or other patterns of sharply contrasting color or colors.
         
        I guess the NFL feels a jersey wouldn't be confused for a football, while a helmet would be? Or perhaps they want to make money from a brown Color Rush uniform. The Browns have always worn orange helmets, but that may be for visibility reasons. Paul Brown was smart that way.
      98. I am reaching the point where, with a few more years and a frugal lifestyle, I could walk away from my career.

        This is essentially what I did just before Thanksgiving.

        Make sure you have enough savings to cover your costs for a long-time. Or, have enough capital to produce income that will cover your costs indefinitely.

        Also make sure to get proper diet and exercise to maintain your physical health.

      99. @PiltdownMan
        Since Korean high school students are uniformly severely sleep deprived, presumably well beyond the point of diminishing returns, wouldn't their PISA scores likely increase above their already high levels if they adopted the saner study habits of Estonians or white Americans?


        Korean students sleep just 5.5 hours a day: survey

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3040363/

        When I was having dinner in Seoul with a Korean dude who I was planning on studying algorithms and rudimentary mathematics with (we were in a similar situation of having lost a lot of our previous knowledge due to e-addiction and poor study habits that didn’t focus on true understanding), I worried that I’d be so far behind him because his secondary education was so much more superior to mine.

        He said that between the focus on rote memorization and the lack of sleep impeding long-term absorbation of material beyond exam day, I shouldn’t worry that much. He also mentioned that getting into the SKY universities was hellish, but once you got in, you were set and you didn’t need to worry that much. At least I think: we had a lot of beer and soju that night, and my memories are a little hazy.

      100. anon[186] • Disclaimer says:
        @ben tillman
        Wow -- the optics! Karlan and Feldman are absolute lunatics. They probably could have found a couple goyim who were equally frothing-at-the-mouth, but why not use SANE witnesses who might convince people that, yeah, we're reasonable, but what Trump did is beyond the pale?

        Not only that, but Karlan and Feldman are stereotypical GenX / Boomer Ashkenazi.

        Karlan, the kooky lady, is a childless lesbian.

        Feldman, the kooky guy, is married to an Asian woman, with two Hapa kids.

        Trump Derangement Syndrome has largely been driven by Ashkenazi, who are quietly realizing their culture has imploded.

      101. @SFG
        I agree.

        I am reaching the point where, with a few more years and a frugal lifestyle, I could walk away from my career. I could get on Twitter full-time and start fights with these... people, perhaps do the Project Veritas thing. If all the troublemakers are young guys, a middle-aged fellow with vaguely Mediterranean/Semitic features might not be expected by TPTB.

        I am also reaching the point where I will be too old to start a family (not biologically, but in terms of attracting a woman young enough who isn't just after my money).

        Obviously, I cannot do both. (I'm not Curtis Yarvin.)

        SFG, broken record here, but seriously you have the smarts, if you’ve got a decent job, even if you’ve got a few years on, while you won’t appeal to the fresh crop of co-eds anymore, if you search diligently you can find a decent girl who has wised up a bit and is ready to devote herself to being a wife and mother.

        Enjoy her and most of all the children you create and raise together. Nothing else will match it.

        There’s plenty of time to be an old fart and spar on-line. But battling for national survival is all for nought if our “smart fraction” is not reproducing itself.

        And did i mention … this will be both the most enjoyable and the most meaningful thing you ever do.

        • Agree: Desiderius
        • Replies: @Neil Templeton
        Yes.
      102. @Jack D
        A mistake that WN's often make is to assume that Russians are "fellow white people". (For some reason they don't make that mistake with Jews). Russians are white on the outside but are Asiatic or Eastern on the inside (what's the opposite of a banana?). They are the product of a different history and different civilization. They are the heirs of Byzantium and not Rome. Byzantium and its child Russia and Rome and its child, the West are descended from a common father but they are like two brothers who are very different from each other. The West is Beau Biden the war hero and Russia is Hunter Biden who gets drunk a lot and knocks up strippers. So if you are betting on Russia to save Roman (Western) civilization you are betting on the wrong horse.

        I’d make that analogy between Christianity and Islam, TBH. Same Judaic mother, but vastly different fathers: Greco-Roman vs. Persian. Much of the stuff we consider normative in Islam today would not have been found in the first century of the religion’s existence: they took up a lot of stuff from Zororastrianism.

        As far as Russia goes, I wouldn’t go so far as to say that there is no Western influence whatsoever, and the idea that Russians are just closet Asians has more than a whiff of Western European propaganda (Charles, Napoleon and Hitler all really played this up, which is not to say they didn’t genuinely believe it) about it. It isn’t that simple: the Eastern Slavs were on the periphery of Europe, not Asia, even back in the Middle Ages. They looked to Constantinople and their nobility intermarried with European families rather than Asian ones. Their only experience under properly “Asian” rule was the Mongols: and that wasn’t an experience they were eager to repeat! As far as the structure of government goes and the supposedly Byzantine features of the Russian state, continuity between the Tsarist autocracy under the Romanovs to its predecessors can be overstated: Peter the Great’s reforms turned Russia’s state structure into something that more resembled a European absolute monarchy with steroids than the old Muscovite autocracy.

        What I’d definitely agree with you on, though, is that Russia and Russian civilization is a totally different cultural construct from “the west”, as the Russians themselves were often wont to emphasize! And if you think of them as akin to “Westerners”, you might as well give the same designation to the Persians, who were the original Aryans and often have pale skin and green eyes. On an overall level, Russians strike me as neither eastern nor western. They are their own unique, idiosyncratic thing with their own traditions. I’d say that between Europe and Asia proper (China, the Mongols, etc), they took way more influences and are closer to Europe, both in terms of looks and outlook, but they aren’t part of it.

        Similarly, in the end, the Russian Empire-and the USSR after it-struck me as being a lot like the United States or Brazil. It was its own unique, complex world unto itself, with its own unique rules and norms. Neither East nor West. Maybe a bridge, but not exactly a hybrid.

        • Agree: Desiderius
        • Replies: @Jack D
        Whatever the Russians ARE - Asiatics in Western clothing, a thing unto themselves, whatever, what they are NOT is fully Western. They have Western INFLUENCES for sure but they are not fully of the West nor does it appear that they ever will be or want to be. They go thru brief periods where they incline toward the West but it's like having someone visit that you really don't like. At first you go along with him, maybe even are having a good time for a little while and you pick up some of his mannerisms and interests, but after a while he gets on your nerves because down deep you are incompatible and he does stuff that reminds you of why you didn't like him in the first place and eventually you can't stand it anymore and find some way to show him the door.

        Dealing with Russians is (not coincidentally) like dealing with an alcoholic - when they are off the sauce, they can be brilliant, generous, charming, etc. They do math, music, rocketry, etc. right up to and sometimes exceeding Western standards. On a bad day they beat their wives and children and act all Asiatic hordish. And when you deal with them, you never know whether it's a bad day or a good day but you know it's going to be a bad day sooner or later.
      103. @Dacian Julien Soros
        Don't you miss the days when the AMG nee BBG could put together a propaganda piece that you'd almost believe? All those millions of Balts, building a human chain spreading for hundreds of kilometers beyond the reach of any camera? All the excitement around the return of the Estonian government-in-exile, led by the very Estonian-named Heinrich Mark?

        If Soviets / Russians eve wanted to take Estonia back, there would be less resistance than in Donbass and Crimea. (If that's possible.) The number of people who did fighting Stalin during his two re-occupations of Imperial Estlandskaya Oblast is precisely zero. But yeah, there might have been lots of singing, if Voice of America had already existed.

        Nah, brah, that was real. I was in the middle of a similar celebration in Hungary in the Spring of ’90.

        Russia : USSR :: America : Rainbow Empire

        There’s a new empire in town, built on just as many lies as the old one. I wouldn’t blame them if they did look to Russia as a counterweight. Lidless Eye of Soros doesn’t sleep.

        https://t.co/B6rd0YZMHE

        Ukraine Fires Prosecutor Investigating Burisma And Hunter Biden, Transfers Cases To Soros-Controlled NABU For Closure
        December 4, 2019

      104. @SFG
        I agree.

        I am reaching the point where, with a few more years and a frugal lifestyle, I could walk away from my career. I could get on Twitter full-time and start fights with these... people, perhaps do the Project Veritas thing. If all the troublemakers are young guys, a middle-aged fellow with vaguely Mediterranean/Semitic features might not be expected by TPTB.

        I am also reaching the point where I will be too old to start a family (not biologically, but in terms of attracting a woman young enough who isn't just after my money).

        Obviously, I cannot do both. (I'm not Curtis Yarvin.)

        Are you sure? A woman who is in her mid-30s and has taken care of her body still has time for a couple of kids, if she is so inclined. (40 is when fertility totally fades.) They’ll be more at risk for turning out mentally exotic, and you’ll probably have to make more of an effort to conceive, but tell me the joys of normality in this day and age for the former, and for the latter, who complains about that part in the process?

        My goal-I’m in my mid-20s-is to said up as much money as I can for the next near decade or so, FIRE out if I can, save up my treasure if it is not enough, and then go back and get the damned physics PhD like I should have. Afterwards? Hell, I don’t know, as long it involves cool math and computers, I’m game.

        I don’t know if kids are in the future for me-with my mental chemistry, I sometimes wonder if it is genuinely responsible to me to pass on my genetics. But on the off chance they are, the good news is that universities tend to give really good benefits to new parents in terms of healthcare, daycare, etc. When your kids are 2-3 years old, it isn’t like you can go anywhere or do much of anything anyway, and while graduate school is hellishly intense, it also tends to not demand strict 8-5 hours in favor of an “you’re always on call 24/7, but if you need to go do something, you can” deal.

        Wise idea? If so, better go work on that future than posting here all the time, lol.

      105. @Dacian Julien Soros
        Don't you miss the days when the AMG nee BBG could put together a propaganda piece that you'd almost believe? All those millions of Balts, building a human chain spreading for hundreds of kilometers beyond the reach of any camera? All the excitement around the return of the Estonian government-in-exile, led by the very Estonian-named Heinrich Mark?

        If Soviets / Russians eve wanted to take Estonia back, there would be less resistance than in Donbass and Crimea. (If that's possible.) The number of people who did fighting Stalin during his two re-occupations of Imperial Estlandskaya Oblast is precisely zero. But yeah, there might have been lots of singing, if Voice of America had already existed.

        Right, the Estonians would welcome their fraternal Russian brothers with open arms once again! They love the Russian people! They will welcome them with song! Who wouldn’t want to be occupied by the Russians?

      106. @nebulafox
        I'd make that analogy between Christianity and Islam, TBH. Same Judaic mother, but vastly different fathers: Greco-Roman vs. Persian. Much of the stuff we consider normative in Islam today would not have been found in the first century of the religion's existence: they took up a lot of stuff from Zororastrianism.

        As far as Russia goes, I wouldn't go so far as to say that there is no Western influence whatsoever, and the idea that Russians are just closet Asians has more than a whiff of Western European propaganda (Charles, Napoleon and Hitler all really played this up, which is not to say they didn't genuinely believe it) about it. It isn't that simple: the Eastern Slavs were on the periphery of Europe, not Asia, even back in the Middle Ages. They looked to Constantinople and their nobility intermarried with European families rather than Asian ones. Their only experience under properly "Asian" rule was the Mongols: and that wasn't an experience they were eager to repeat! As far as the structure of government goes and the supposedly Byzantine features of the Russian state, continuity between the Tsarist autocracy under the Romanovs to its predecessors can be overstated: Peter the Great's reforms turned Russia's state structure into something that more resembled a European absolute monarchy with steroids than the old Muscovite autocracy.

        What I'd definitely agree with you on, though, is that Russia and Russian civilization is a totally different cultural construct from "the west", as the Russians themselves were often wont to emphasize! And if you think of them as akin to "Westerners", you might as well give the same designation to the Persians, who were the original Aryans and often have pale skin and green eyes. On an overall level, Russians strike me as neither eastern nor western. They are their own unique, idiosyncratic thing with their own traditions. I'd say that between Europe and Asia proper (China, the Mongols, etc), they took way more influences and are closer to Europe, both in terms of looks and outlook, but they aren't part of it.

        Similarly, in the end, the Russian Empire-and the USSR after it-struck me as being a lot like the United States or Brazil. It was its own unique, complex world unto itself, with its own unique rules and norms. Neither East nor West. Maybe a bridge, but not exactly a hybrid.

        Whatever the Russians ARE – Asiatics in Western clothing, a thing unto themselves, whatever, what they are NOT is fully Western. They have Western INFLUENCES for sure but they are not fully of the West nor does it appear that they ever will be or want to be. They go thru brief periods where they incline toward the West but it’s like having someone visit that you really don’t like. At first you go along with him, maybe even are having a good time for a little while and you pick up some of his mannerisms and interests, but after a while he gets on your nerves because down deep you are incompatible and he does stuff that reminds you of why you didn’t like him in the first place and eventually you can’t stand it anymore and find some way to show him the door.

        Dealing with Russians is (not coincidentally) like dealing with an alcoholic – when they are off the sauce, they can be brilliant, generous, charming, etc. They do math, music, rocketry, etc. right up to and sometimes exceeding Western standards. On a bad day they beat their wives and children and act all Asiatic hordish. And when you deal with them, you never know whether it’s a bad day or a good day but you know it’s going to be a bad day sooner or later.

        • Agree: Johann Ricke
        • Replies: @Desiderius
        Well, we're not that insular. I like them because they're different. Best lit in the history of the species to boot.
      107. @Desiderius
        There are a lot. They need to get off their asses and knock some sense into these clowns.

        Oh great, so my assignment, if I choose to accept it, will be to woo Pamela Karlan — meeting “cute” and magically turning her into a salt-of-the-earth flyover conservative and all-around good woman.

        • Replies: @J.Ross
        I sincerely wish this woman long life and much canera time.
        , @Desiderius
        Exactly.

        Don't sell yourself short. If Matt Gaetz can manage it, you shouldn't have any problem at all.
      108. They do math, music, rocketry, etc. right up to and sometimes exceeding Western standards. On a bad day they beat their wives and children and act all Asiatic hordish.

        Nice.

        Parachuting in from orbit a hundred years hence, that might be the best landing spot in a world of otherwise Asian economics and African demographics sprinkled with Islamic recalcitrance.

      109. @Known Fact
        Oh great, so my assignment, if I choose to accept it, will be to woo Pamela Karlan -- meeting "cute" and magically turning her into a salt-of-the-earth flyover conservative and all-around good woman.

        I sincerely wish this woman long life and much canera time.

      110. OT:

        Frozen II isn’t just a cartoon. It’s a brilliant critique of imperialism
        We must atone for the sins of imperialism

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/12/05/kids-love-anna-elsa-frozen-iis-lesson-is-adults/#comments-wrapper

      111. @ScarletNumber
        Pine Valley incorporated itself as its own town in 1929 and currently has a population of 12.

        OT

        49ers broadcaster Tim Ryan has been suspended for one week for stating on a radio show that Ravens' quarterback Lamar Jackson had an advantage due to his skin color matching the shade of the ball. Keep in mind that the reason the Browns wear orange helmets is that it is against NFL rules to have any part of the uniform be brown.

        But……the Browns wear brown jerseys.

      112. Speaking of ‘diversity’ …

        According to an editor/author at the Bayernkurier, who in turn is citing journalist Stephen Smith, author of the book The Scramble for Europe, Europe must be ready to take in 150 – 200 million Africans (roughly the population of Germany, France, and Italy combined) by 2050.

        Auf dem Weg nach “Eurafrika” — On the way to ‘Eurafrica’

        • Replies: @El Dato
        Sounds legit. I suppose Stephen Smith said that about that many people would bang on the doors if things continue as they are. He's not wrong.

        The Bayernkurier hopes for a quick translation of Smith's book. I second this. (I can actually do that, though my German needs a refresher)

        https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-rush-to-europe-young-africa-on-the-way-to-the-old-continent/
      113. @eah
        Speaking of 'diversity' ...

        According to an editor/author at the Bayernkurier, who in turn is citing journalist Stephen Smith, author of the book The Scramble for Europe, Europe must be ready to take in 150 - 200 million Africans (roughly the population of Germany, France, and Italy combined) by 2050.

        Auf dem Weg nach "Eurafrika" -- On the way to 'Eurafrica'

        Sounds legit. I suppose Stephen Smith said that about that many people would bang on the doors if things continue as they are. He’s not wrong.

        The Bayernkurier hopes for a quick translation of Smith’s book. I second this. (I can actually do that, though my German needs a refresher)

        https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-rush-to-europe-young-africa-on-the-way-to-the-old-continent/

      114. @Dtbb
        OT: New hustle aborning? Becoming a big story locally.
        https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/post/anthropologist-building-over-african-american-cemeteries-not-just-southern-problem

        Tampa isn’t the only place where long-lost African American graveyards have been found.

        Although two have been discovered in the bay area, and more sites are being investigated, the problem has a national scope, says an expert in lost black burial grounds.

        Okay.

        That is likely the story of the two missing graveyards found this year in Tampa, the Zion Cemetery in Tampa Heights mostly under Robles Park housing complex, and the Ridgewood Cemetery beneath a field and agriculture lab at King High School. Archaeologists have confirmed the presence of 145 graves at Ridgewood; 144 at Zion so far.

        Oh man, I feel a remake of Poltergeist winding its way out of Hollywood.

        Another important tool in the effort to find justice for the lost souls is ground-penetrating radar.

        From black bodies to lost souls crying for justice.

        Getting served by ground-penetrating radar.

        Oh Brave new World.

        (I thought “lost soul” is used to designate a person who is still alive, though in a bad way)

        • Replies: @Steve Sailer
        I thought TNC had ruled that blacks don't have souls anymore, just bodies?
        , @Jack D
        They found a black cemetery under a skyscraper site in NY and so they had to stop construction and build a museum. In Philly a couple of years ago they found a white people cemetery when they started digging for a new building. For a while the contractor just kept digging but after there were too many complaints they gave an archaeological team a few days to come in and dig up the bones and then they finished the building. No museum. Dead white people is no big deal.

        But then they found the foundation of George Washington's kitchen in Philly where SLAVES cooked his dinner. Can you imagine - SLAVES cooked GW's dinner? So they had to make a museum out of that too.
      115. @ben tillman
        Wow -- the optics! Karlan and Feldman are absolute lunatics. They probably could have found a couple goyim who were equally frothing-at-the-mouth, but why not use SANE witnesses who might convince people that, yeah, we're reasonable, but what Trump did is beyond the pale?

        Because the purpose was not to convince sane people. It was not to convince anyone who was not already convinced. They were there to preach to the choir. When a Mormon Elder puts on his funny underwear and starts babbling about how the Angel Moroni visited Joseph Smith and the American Indians were really the Lost Tribes of Israel the point is not to convince sane people.

      116. @El Dato

        Tampa isn't the only place where long-lost African American graveyards have been found.

        Although two have been discovered in the bay area, and more sites are being investigated, the problem has a national scope, says an expert in lost black burial grounds.
         
        Okay.

        That is likely the story of the two missing graveyards found this year in Tampa, the Zion Cemetery in Tampa Heights mostly under Robles Park housing complex, and the Ridgewood Cemetery beneath a field and agriculture lab at King High School. Archaeologists have confirmed the presence of 145 graves at Ridgewood; 144 at Zion so far.
         
        Oh man, I feel a remake of Poltergeist winding its way out of Hollywood.

        Another important tool in the effort to find justice for the lost souls is ground-penetrating radar.
         
        From black bodies to lost souls crying for justice.

        Getting served by ground-penetrating radar.

        Oh Brave new World.

        (I thought "lost soul" is used to designate a person who is still alive, though in a bad way)

        I thought TNC had ruled that blacks don’t have souls anymore, just bodies?

      117. @El Dato

        Tampa isn't the only place where long-lost African American graveyards have been found.

        Although two have been discovered in the bay area, and more sites are being investigated, the problem has a national scope, says an expert in lost black burial grounds.
         
        Okay.

        That is likely the story of the two missing graveyards found this year in Tampa, the Zion Cemetery in Tampa Heights mostly under Robles Park housing complex, and the Ridgewood Cemetery beneath a field and agriculture lab at King High School. Archaeologists have confirmed the presence of 145 graves at Ridgewood; 144 at Zion so far.
         
        Oh man, I feel a remake of Poltergeist winding its way out of Hollywood.

        Another important tool in the effort to find justice for the lost souls is ground-penetrating radar.
         
        From black bodies to lost souls crying for justice.

        Getting served by ground-penetrating radar.

        Oh Brave new World.

        (I thought "lost soul" is used to designate a person who is still alive, though in a bad way)

        They found a black cemetery under a skyscraper site in NY and so they had to stop construction and build a museum. In Philly a couple of years ago they found a white people cemetery when they started digging for a new building. For a while the contractor just kept digging but after there were too many complaints they gave an archaeological team a few days to come in and dig up the bones and then they finished the building. No museum. Dead white people is no big deal.

        But then they found the foundation of George Washington’s kitchen in Philly where SLAVES cooked his dinner. Can you imagine – SLAVES cooked GW’s dinner? So they had to make a museum out of that too.

        • LOL: Johann Ricke
      118. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
        "[I]t is against NFL rules to have any part of the uniform be brown." What could be the reason for such a rule? And this is contradicted by
        https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-to-wear-color-rush-uniforms-for-first-time-ever-and-heres-what-they-look-like/
        "[T]he Browns officially announced this week that they would be wearing the all-brown uniforms."

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Color_Rush
        hints that the NFL is very color-coordinated fashion-minded.

        Hmm. That’s a good point. Here is the actual rule (4.4.7)…

        Headgear or any other equipment or apparel which, in the opinion of the Referee, may confuse an opponent because of its similarity in color to that of the game football [are prohibited]. If such color is worn, it must be broken by stripes or other patterns of sharply contrasting color or colors.

        I guess the NFL feels a jersey wouldn’t be confused for a football, while a helmet would be? Or perhaps they want to make money from a brown Color Rush uniform. The Browns have always worn orange helmets, but that may be for visibility reasons. Paul Brown was smart that way.

      119. @Prester John
        Coincidentally, Estonian is linguistically very similar to Finnish.

        It’s not at all a coincidence. They are in the same branch of the Uralic language family and their similarity are based in descent from a common proto-language.

      120. @Anonymous
        https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article238030539.html

        Check out the comments in the article about Zimmerman suing Trayvon's family. High level comedy reading all of the blacks and white liberals being triggered when someone pointed out that blacks commit more crimes than anyone else. They all refuse to believe it and are furious!

        Someone even said it is not possible for 12 percent of the population to cause more crime than the other 88 percent, and someone else said to go to the fbi website to prove that whites are the real killers. My favorite part were multiple people making references to the kkk.

        SJW nonsense really is a religion.

        What’s the trick to reading the article? Every time I try, I get the alert to turn off my ad blocker, but as soon as I do, the alert comes back on.

        • Replies: @J.Ross
        Here:
        http://archive.is/nMTYk
        Even though Norsebot has gone to Valhalla, we should still always archive: it defeats censorship, clickbaiting, and pop-ups, and provides a common format.
        Zim Zam suing the Martins deserves a thread, this is righteous. Remember Trayvon's "girlfriend" witness, Rachel Genteal? Do you specifically remember the way Trayvon's parents eyed her? That was never Trayvon's girl. Trayvon's girl (who had been on the phone that fateful night) was a straight instagram thot who looked, weighed, and spoke nothing like Genteal. She also cogitated that lying to a lawyer in a trial is not like lying to your boyfriend and refused to testify. So in comes Genteal.
        Trayvon's parents did him dirty, dirtier than Zimmerman, saying that was his girlfriend.
        So a state prosecutor lied to a judge about the identity of a witness, in a murder trial.
        The Larry Klayman outfit and another famous reputable legal activism organization is backing Zimmerman. They're the real deal, they wouldn't do that for a money grab or a guess.
        Trayvon's parents were never interested in Zimmerman, that was a necessary sacrifice to be able to shake the homeowner's association down, and the HOA did pay them an undisclosed sum which I highly doubt is still in one piece. That sum could likely be the same amount Zimmerman is asking for (he'd have ways of nailing the amount down through his neighbors).
        Maybe we are going to win so much we'll get tired of winning.
      121. @ben tillman
        Wow -- the optics! Karlan and Feldman are absolute lunatics. They probably could have found a couple goyim who were equally frothing-at-the-mouth, but why not use SANE witnesses who might convince people that, yeah, we're reasonable, but what Trump did is beyond the pale?

        Pam Karlan sought to help steal the 2000 election for Al Gore:

        But according to Stanford University professor of public interest law, and former NAACP legal counsel, Pamela Karlan, voters are entitled to be as dumb as they wanna be. Appearing on Ted Koppel’s ABC-TV show, Nightline, on November 10, Karlan opined, “We don’t assume an intelligent, literate voter.”

        Translation: Voters have a right to keep on voting, until the Democrat wins. One of Prof. Karlan’s specialties is “legal regulation of the political process,” a euphemism for “the theory and practice of racial vote-rigging.”

        https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2019/02/whose-rights-our-rights-jackson-family.html

        • Replies: @ben tillman
        I had no idea. Thanks for sharing that.
      122. @Known Fact
        Oh great, so my assignment, if I choose to accept it, will be to woo Pamela Karlan -- meeting "cute" and magically turning her into a salt-of-the-earth flyover conservative and all-around good woman.

        Exactly.

        Don’t sell yourself short. If Matt Gaetz can manage it, you shouldn’t have any problem at all.

      123. @Jack D
        Whatever the Russians ARE - Asiatics in Western clothing, a thing unto themselves, whatever, what they are NOT is fully Western. They have Western INFLUENCES for sure but they are not fully of the West nor does it appear that they ever will be or want to be. They go thru brief periods where they incline toward the West but it's like having someone visit that you really don't like. At first you go along with him, maybe even are having a good time for a little while and you pick up some of his mannerisms and interests, but after a while he gets on your nerves because down deep you are incompatible and he does stuff that reminds you of why you didn't like him in the first place and eventually you can't stand it anymore and find some way to show him the door.

        Dealing with Russians is (not coincidentally) like dealing with an alcoholic - when they are off the sauce, they can be brilliant, generous, charming, etc. They do math, music, rocketry, etc. right up to and sometimes exceeding Western standards. On a bad day they beat their wives and children and act all Asiatic hordish. And when you deal with them, you never know whether it's a bad day or a good day but you know it's going to be a bad day sooner or later.

        Well, we’re not that insular. I like them because they’re different. Best lit in the history of the species to boot.

      124. @SFG
        Honestly, the market's gone too far right now. Just because the USSR was a basket case doesn't mean nobody should ever tax rich people. Billionaires accumulate vast amounts of wealth and use it to buy politicians' loyalty.

        We wouldn't have to sit around arguing whether random billionaire Jews are bad because they're billionaires or because they're Jewish if guys like Adelson couldn't buy the f***ing party. What if Soros had a lot less money to throw around?

        Not to mention supporting woke crap, increased immigration, etc., all kinds of stuff that's great if you can hire maids and construction workers and lousy if you are one.

        We wouldn’t have to sit around arguing whether random billionaire Jews are bad because they’re billionaires or because they’re Jewish if guys like Adelson couldn’t buy the f***ing party.

        The correct answer to the question you presented is neither of the two you proposed. Neither being Jewish nor being a billionaire per se, is what makes individuals such as Adelson pernicious. Rather, it is, specifically, how they exert the inordinate influence that their inordinate wealth grants them.

        • Replies: @J.Ross
        This, if it wasn't for his absolutely essentially anti-American hatred of our Bill of Rights, I would think of Michael Bloomberg as a shrewd entrepreneur and one of the best-with-a-gap recent mayors of New York City.
      125. @AnotherDad
        SFG, broken record here, but seriously you have the smarts, if you've got a decent job, even if you've got a few years on, while you won't appeal to the fresh crop of co-eds anymore, if you search diligently you can find a decent girl who has wised up a bit and is ready to devote herself to being a wife and mother.

        Enjoy her and most of all the children you create and raise together. Nothing else will match it.

        There's plenty of time to be an old fart and spar on-line. But battling for national survival is all for nought if our "smart fraction" is not reproducing itself.

        And did i mention ... this will be both the most enjoyable and the most meaningful thing you ever do.

        Yes.

      126. @Dissident

        We wouldn’t have to sit around arguing whether random billionaire Jews are bad because they’re billionaires or because they’re Jewish if guys like Adelson couldn’t buy the f***ing party.
         
        The correct answer to the question you presented is neither of the two you proposed. Neither being Jewish nor being a billionaire per se, is what makes individuals such as Adelson pernicious. Rather, it is, specifically, how they exert the inordinate influence that their inordinate wealth grants them.

        This, if it wasn’t for his absolutely essentially anti-American hatred of our Bill of Rights, I would think of Michael Bloomberg as a shrewd entrepreneur and one of the best-with-a-gap recent mayors of New York City.

      127. @Nicholas Stix
        What's the trick to reading the article? Every time I try, I get the alert to turn off my ad blocker, but as soon as I do, the alert comes back on.

        Here:
        http://archive.is/nMTYk
        Even though Norsebot has gone to Valhalla, we should still always archive: it defeats censorship, clickbaiting, and pop-ups, and provides a common format.
        Zim Zam suing the Martins deserves a thread, this is righteous. Remember Trayvon’s “girlfriend” witness, Rachel Genteal? Do you specifically remember the way Trayvon’s parents eyed her? That was never Trayvon’s girl. Trayvon’s girl (who had been on the phone that fateful night) was a straight instagram thot who looked, weighed, and spoke nothing like Genteal. She also cogitated that lying to a lawyer in a trial is not like lying to your boyfriend and refused to testify. So in comes Genteal.
        Trayvon’s parents did him dirty, dirtier than Zimmerman, saying that was his girlfriend.
        So a state prosecutor lied to a judge about the identity of a witness, in a murder trial.
        The Larry Klayman outfit and another famous reputable legal activism organization is backing Zimmerman. They’re the real deal, they wouldn’t do that for a money grab or a guess.
        Trayvon’s parents were never interested in Zimmerman, that was a necessary sacrifice to be able to shake the homeowner’s association down, and the HOA did pay them an undisclosed sum which I highly doubt is still in one piece. That sum could likely be the same amount Zimmerman is asking for (he’d have ways of nailing the amount down through his neighbors).
        Maybe we are going to win so much we’ll get tired of winning.

        • Replies: @Jack D
        I doubt that Jeantel and Trayvon's momma (and even Crump) have more than 5 cents worth of liquid assets (regardless of how much she received from the HOA's insurance company) and apparently the lawsuit is being coordinated with a movie release so I would rate it as a publicity stunt rather than a serious lawsuit. Even if the allegations have merit, suing people who have no money means that you are looking for something other than legal satisfaction. If this was a real lawsuit with merit, Zimmerman could get a normal contingency fee lawyer to take it and not some politically connected advocacy organization.

        Regardless of this lawsuit, Zimmerman is a train wreck. He is the kind of guy who leaves a trail of fistfights and wrecked cars and unpaid debts. He can compete with Hunter Biden for the title of worst human being ever, even if he was justified in killing Trayvon (and he was). With the late Trayvon and his (non) girlfriend Rachel as the champions of the black race and Zimmerman as the champion of the whites (he is at least what in the future will pass for white), America has descended to levels of depravity not seen since the last days of Rome. How pathetic are we?
      128. @Jack D
        A mistake that WN's often make is to assume that Russians are "fellow white people". (For some reason they don't make that mistake with Jews). Russians are white on the outside but are Asiatic or Eastern on the inside (what's the opposite of a banana?). They are the product of a different history and different civilization. They are the heirs of Byzantium and not Rome. Byzantium and its child Russia and Rome and its child, the West are descended from a common father but they are like two brothers who are very different from each other. The West is Beau Biden the war hero and Russia is Hunter Biden who gets drunk a lot and knocks up strippers. So if you are betting on Russia to save Roman (Western) civilization you are betting on the wrong horse.

        So if you are betting on Russia to save Roman (Western) civilization you are betting on the wrong horse.

        That’s a feature, not a bug.

      129. @Clyde

        “He had found one possible explanation for Korea’s PISA scores, and it was depressing. Kids learned a lot, but they spent a ridiculous amount of time doing so….He was astounded by the inefficiency of it all. In Korea, school never stopped.”
         
        All school work and cram school makes Kim a dull boy. All schooling, with his little downtime meaning gazing at devices. No aimless outside play and running around. Stinks for kid Kim. In the news is a fem looking K-Pop star committing suicide.

        Republic of Korea Total Fertility Rate as of 2017 = 1.052

        https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=KR

        Estonia TFR in 2017 = 1.6

        https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=EE

      130. @Dacian Julien Soros
        Russia is the third largest recipients of immigration in the world, and the Stans are not sending their best.

        Interesting. I thought Russia was second .

      131. @SFG
        Out of 14 million? More than that. A lot are more loyal to Israel, unfortunately.

        The ones who put America first tend to drift out of the tribe, since there is no reason not to assimilate. I mean, I have to either be on the left, and support all kinds of SJW s***, or on the right, and advocate America go to wars for Israel and billionaires be able to buy everything (and those two are related). Your Barry Goldwater or John Milius types just tend to convert or become totally irreligious.

        When they make a socially conservative, economically liberal party, I'll be the first to sign up.

        When they make a socially conservative, economically liberal party, I’ll be the first to sign up.

        I would suggest that such labels are too simplistic, too limiting, and have become ambiguous and even, to a large degree, moot.

        Some points to consider:
        – David French, a prominent “social conservative”, has argued that abominations such as Drag Queen Story Hour must be tolerated in the name of the greater good of civility and pluralism. Others have argued “The Conservative Case for Gay Marriage”.

        Those of us who recognize such scourges as the normalization of degeneracy, deviancy and depravity; the inversion of traditional morality; the denial of objective reality; and the sacralization of non-Whites and vilification of Whites (esp. those of the non-cosmopolitan variety) for the pernicious cancers that they are need to: (a) oppose them, unequivocally, unambiguously and unapologetically; (b) define and label ourselves accordingly, clearly and directly; (c) be able and ready to thoroughly refute our opponents’ propaganda and arguments, including offering compassionate, comprehensive, prescriptive alternatives to those most vulnerable, targeted and affected by such propaganda and activism (such as same-sex-attracted individuals and those who are not at peace with the objective reality of their born-sex).
        (For more concerning “LGBTQ”, etc., see this comment of mine and my others in that archived thread from Audacious Epigone’s blog here at UR.)

        – “economically liberal” seems far too ambiguous a term. The prevailing economic orthodoxy– what’s brought us what our host has dubbed In-Hock to the World— is known as neoliberal. Economics is perhaps one of the areas for which looking beyond liberal-conservative/right-left and other ideological labels is most warranted and would most behoove us.

        – “socially conservative, economically liberal” does not even cover, at least not directly, the two areas of policy on which there would appear to be the most consensus from those who respect this blog and comment here: Immigration and foreign policy; what our host has famously dubbed Invite the World/Invade the World.

      132. @Mr. XYZ
        Steve, Estonia actually does have some diversity. Specifically, it has Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, a few Jews, and apparently even 80 Bedouins! Yes, seriously.

        I was surprised to hear that the Baltics have Gypsies from way back. I thought they were recent tourists from the likely places, but my Latvian hosts said that they have their own (40k in Riga, apparently). Maybe Estonia has some? Though with Baltic genetics, they might be blonde and blue eyed.

        • Replies: @Jack D
        The old Europe was not nearly as mono-ethnic as ethnically cleansed post-WWII Europe (of course in Western Europe diversity is making a comeback with a vengeance). Borders were fluid and ill defined and little guarded. The rulers of old Europe would often bring in (or allow in) different ethnic groups than the local peasantry for various reasons. They would bring in Jews to do trading, Germans as farmers, etc., etc. In Lithuania the Grand Dukes brought in Karaites (a breakaway quasi-Jewish Turkic splinter group) from the Crimea as mercenaries. Europe being one continuous landmass from Romania to the Baltics, the gypsies probably just wandered up there in their wagons.
      133. @Romanian
        I was surprised to hear that the Baltics have Gypsies from way back. I thought they were recent tourists from the likely places, but my Latvian hosts said that they have their own (40k in Riga, apparently). Maybe Estonia has some? Though with Baltic genetics, they might be blonde and blue eyed.

        The old Europe was not nearly as mono-ethnic as ethnically cleansed post-WWII Europe (of course in Western Europe diversity is making a comeback with a vengeance). Borders were fluid and ill defined and little guarded. The rulers of old Europe would often bring in (or allow in) different ethnic groups than the local peasantry for various reasons. They would bring in Jews to do trading, Germans as farmers, etc., etc. In Lithuania the Grand Dukes brought in Karaites (a breakaway quasi-Jewish Turkic splinter group) from the Crimea as mercenaries. Europe being one continuous landmass from Romania to the Baltics, the gypsies probably just wandered up there in their wagons.

      134. @PiltdownMan

        Take another gander at that photo. Is it Estonian practice to place the left-handers to one side of the room? Is that their secret?
         
        It used to be common in many classrooms and school halls during exams—to prevent cheating by copying the work of the test-taker by your side.

        The right-handers get seated on the left, and the left-handers on the right.

        Brings back a long forgotten memory. My junior high had these half desks that were almost always set up for right handed folks. There would sometimes be, however, a column of four or five desks on the far right side of the teacher configured for the left handed. Not every classroom had them but I was always glad to snag one of these desks when available.

        • Replies: @Anonymous
        I was sent to CCD classes (I was in high school, they were held I think one Tuesday a month) in a Catholic elementary school (attached to the church, in West County, Msgr. Russel J Obmann was the head cheese) where they still (late seventies) had these fifties looking chair-desk thingies that consisted of a writing surface bolted to an arm affixed to the side of the chair.There was a drilled and tapped plate on either side do if there was a left handed student they just put the left hand dealy on rather than the right hand. Each classroom had one or two that were set up lefty and if more were needed the custodian just swapped them over in a couple of minutes.

        They also had the centrally controlled synchronous AC clock system with a control console that had the master clock, a switch where a WU time line could be connected if desired, and the control amplifier that had perforated metal sides through which a pair of transmitting tubes along the line of 211s or 845s could be seen. It probably dated to just before or just after WWII. It looked like something off of a battleship and maybe it was. The church and school itself had been built in 1958, I think, so I'm guessing it was brought over from the old building. By the time we moved away they had a new church building but the old school strip was still in use.
      135. @J.Ross
        Here:
        http://archive.is/nMTYk
        Even though Norsebot has gone to Valhalla, we should still always archive: it defeats censorship, clickbaiting, and pop-ups, and provides a common format.
        Zim Zam suing the Martins deserves a thread, this is righteous. Remember Trayvon's "girlfriend" witness, Rachel Genteal? Do you specifically remember the way Trayvon's parents eyed her? That was never Trayvon's girl. Trayvon's girl (who had been on the phone that fateful night) was a straight instagram thot who looked, weighed, and spoke nothing like Genteal. She also cogitated that lying to a lawyer in a trial is not like lying to your boyfriend and refused to testify. So in comes Genteal.
        Trayvon's parents did him dirty, dirtier than Zimmerman, saying that was his girlfriend.
        So a state prosecutor lied to a judge about the identity of a witness, in a murder trial.
        The Larry Klayman outfit and another famous reputable legal activism organization is backing Zimmerman. They're the real deal, they wouldn't do that for a money grab or a guess.
        Trayvon's parents were never interested in Zimmerman, that was a necessary sacrifice to be able to shake the homeowner's association down, and the HOA did pay them an undisclosed sum which I highly doubt is still in one piece. That sum could likely be the same amount Zimmerman is asking for (he'd have ways of nailing the amount down through his neighbors).
        Maybe we are going to win so much we'll get tired of winning.

        I doubt that Jeantel and Trayvon’s momma (and even Crump) have more than 5 cents worth of liquid assets (regardless of how much she received from the HOA’s insurance company) and apparently the lawsuit is being coordinated with a movie release so I would rate it as a publicity stunt rather than a serious lawsuit. Even if the allegations have merit, suing people who have no money means that you are looking for something other than legal satisfaction. If this was a real lawsuit with merit, Zimmerman could get a normal contingency fee lawyer to take it and not some politically connected advocacy organization.

        Regardless of this lawsuit, Zimmerman is a train wreck. He is the kind of guy who leaves a trail of fistfights and wrecked cars and unpaid debts. He can compete with Hunter Biden for the title of worst human being ever, even if he was justified in killing Trayvon (and he was). With the late Trayvon and his (non) girlfriend Rachel as the champions of the black race and Zimmerman as the champion of the whites (he is at least what in the future will pass for white), America has descended to levels of depravity not seen since the last days of Rome. How pathetic are we?

        • Replies: @Johann Ricke

        Even if the allegations have merit, suing people who have no money means that you are looking for something other than legal satisfaction. If this was a real lawsuit with merit, Zimmerman could get a normal contingency fee lawyer to take it and not some politically connected advocacy organization.
         
        I'd say he's looking to clear his name, which a legal victory would somewhat accomplish. Making it clear that to the public that these people were literally grifters would be no small feat, given the practical sanctification of Trayvon Martin and his kin by the media and Democratic pols. That's presumably what Larry Klayman is trying to do - drive another nail into the coffin that houses the credibility of the media, re anything involving black criminality.
      136. @Jack D
        I doubt that Jeantel and Trayvon's momma (and even Crump) have more than 5 cents worth of liquid assets (regardless of how much she received from the HOA's insurance company) and apparently the lawsuit is being coordinated with a movie release so I would rate it as a publicity stunt rather than a serious lawsuit. Even if the allegations have merit, suing people who have no money means that you are looking for something other than legal satisfaction. If this was a real lawsuit with merit, Zimmerman could get a normal contingency fee lawyer to take it and not some politically connected advocacy organization.

        Regardless of this lawsuit, Zimmerman is a train wreck. He is the kind of guy who leaves a trail of fistfights and wrecked cars and unpaid debts. He can compete with Hunter Biden for the title of worst human being ever, even if he was justified in killing Trayvon (and he was). With the late Trayvon and his (non) girlfriend Rachel as the champions of the black race and Zimmerman as the champion of the whites (he is at least what in the future will pass for white), America has descended to levels of depravity not seen since the last days of Rome. How pathetic are we?

        Even if the allegations have merit, suing people who have no money means that you are looking for something other than legal satisfaction. If this was a real lawsuit with merit, Zimmerman could get a normal contingency fee lawyer to take it and not some politically connected advocacy organization.

        I’d say he’s looking to clear his name, which a legal victory would somewhat accomplish. Making it clear that to the public that these people were literally grifters would be no small feat, given the practical sanctification of Trayvon Martin and his kin by the media and Democratic pols. That’s presumably what Larry Klayman is trying to do – drive another nail into the coffin that houses the credibility of the media, re anything involving black criminality.

        • Replies: @J.Ross
        Yeah, this guy D's calling a train wreck is a guy who let a neighbor crash at his place after hers got burgled, and who was absolutely crucified by biased national media. The only train wreck part about him is the part where he was nearly murdered -- and The Great And The Good decided it was all his fault.
      137. @Johann Ricke

        Even if the allegations have merit, suing people who have no money means that you are looking for something other than legal satisfaction. If this was a real lawsuit with merit, Zimmerman could get a normal contingency fee lawyer to take it and not some politically connected advocacy organization.
         
        I'd say he's looking to clear his name, which a legal victory would somewhat accomplish. Making it clear that to the public that these people were literally grifters would be no small feat, given the practical sanctification of Trayvon Martin and his kin by the media and Democratic pols. That's presumably what Larry Klayman is trying to do - drive another nail into the coffin that houses the credibility of the media, re anything involving black criminality.

        Yeah, this guy D’s calling a train wreck is a guy who let a neighbor crash at his place after hers got burgled, and who was absolutely crucified by biased national media. The only train wreck part about him is the part where he was nearly murdered — and The Great And The Good decided it was all his fault.

      138. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
        @mhowell
        Brings back a long forgotten memory. My junior high had these half desks that were almost always set up for right handed folks. There would sometimes be, however, a column of four or five desks on the far right side of the teacher configured for the left handed. Not every classroom had them but I was always glad to snag one of these desks when available.

        I was sent to CCD classes (I was in high school, they were held I think one Tuesday a month) in a Catholic elementary school (attached to the church, in West County, Msgr. Russel J Obmann was the head cheese) where they still (late seventies) had these fifties looking chair-desk thingies that consisted of a writing surface bolted to an arm affixed to the side of the chair.There was a drilled and tapped plate on either side do if there was a left handed student they just put the left hand dealy on rather than the right hand. Each classroom had one or two that were set up lefty and if more were needed the custodian just swapped them over in a couple of minutes.

        They also had the centrally controlled synchronous AC clock system with a control console that had the master clock, a switch where a WU time line could be connected if desired, and the control amplifier that had perforated metal sides through which a pair of transmitting tubes along the line of 211s or 845s could be seen. It probably dated to just before or just after WWII. It looked like something off of a battleship and maybe it was. The church and school itself had been built in 1958, I think, so I’m guessing it was brought over from the old building. By the time we moved away they had a new church building but the old school strip was still in use.

      139. @Nicholas Stix
        Pam Karlan sought to help steal the 2000 election for Al Gore:

        But according to Stanford University professor of public interest law, and former NAACP legal counsel, Pamela Karlan, voters are entitled to be as dumb as they wanna be. Appearing on Ted Koppel’s ABC-TV show, Nightline, on November 10, Karlan opined, “We don’t assume an intelligent, literate voter.”

        Translation: Voters have a right to keep on voting, until the Democrat wins. One of Prof. Karlan’s specialties is “legal regulation of the political process,” a euphemism for “the theory and practice of racial vote-rigging.”

        https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2019/02/whose-rights-our-rights-jackson-family.html

        I had no idea. Thanks for sharing that.

      140. @Anon 2
        I think everyone must be reminded that the population of Estonia
        is only 1.325 million, and, as someone pointed out, Estonia is in
        a state of demographic collapse

        To call it a demographic collapse is exaggeration. The number of native estonians in Estonia has ranged within 0,90-1,00 million since the All-Russian Census of 1897. Native estonians have demographically been one of the most stable populations in the world, only 2-3x over the medieval population levels.

      141. @inertial
        Total Estonian population is only 1.3 million, which is less than Maine or New Hampshire. How many of them are 15-years olds who took the test? Estonians are smart and everything, but this result is most likely an outlier due to small sample size.

        The sample size in Estonia was the standard 5000+ and it covered about 40% of all children of the age group. Your claim might have some merit on Iceland or Luxembourg, or not.

      142. @Kratoklastes
        Estonians are kinda like Finns, no? Finns are smart.

        Also... Estonia is majority irreligious (54% of the population; another 16% didn't answer the question).

        Given that oldies are more religious than the young, it would mean significantly more than 54% of Estonia's kiddies have a bunch of spare CPU cycles that aren't being wasted processing stupid fairy stories. Ditto storage... not being cluttered with drivel about talking snakes and first century Levantine beta-male revolutionaries, means they can use the space to store usefuller shit.

        Actually about 50-60% of native estonians believe in the Force (or in some Force), it is rather a lingering effect of animism. Animism itself should be viewed as a stone-age science and popular science in the form of game theory – back then the natural processes were described in animated terms, similarly as nowadays some social science describes societies in inanimated terms (diffusion, sublimation of subpopulations, mechanical stresses, fracturing, etc.). Once you break through that, what remains are descriptions of natural Forces. The finnic creation heroine Ilmatar describes natural forces that took hold during Bolling-Allerod. The interchange of ice ages – interstadials is depicted as the character named (H)Ukko / (H)Uku, which in germanic lore is known as Ragnarök (Hukko also means the Wolf of Doom, thus it is equivalent to Fenrir). Kalev / Kalevipoeg / Taara / Thor can be tied to the Kaali meteorite impact about 3500 years ago. Odin can be tied to the Odensholm island at the rim of the Neugrund meteorite impact. Perkunas / Põrguline / Perkele can be tied to the Ilumetsa meteorite impact. A fiery thunderous heavenly object that impacted the ground, broke the ground, rebounded and went underground (into Hell). Those were manifestations of natural forces that got animated. The stones were worshipped probably because they were the manifestation of glacial flows that shaped the landforms and carried large boulders from Finland to Estonia. Many brecchia from the Neugrund meteorite crater got carried away by the glacial flows as well, those brecchia were the likely clue how the origin of Neugrund was guessed by the prehistoric local people. Stones (from the Baltic Clint limestone or from elsewhere) also often contain fossils from prior geologic ages. Trees were worshipped because they are part of the underground mycorhizza network that provide essential natural services. Etc., etc., etc. One does not have to concentrate on the religious part of animism to appreciate the game-theoretic animist popular scientific part of it.

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